Race engine?

[gav600]

Hi , last year i bought a mk3 gti track car, its stripped out , roll caged, kw variants all round with polly bushes, vr6 breaks with green stuff running on toyo semi slicks, its great fun round a track and embarrasses some semi serious machinery round the smaller tracks.

The engine is a 2.0 16v and is a little under powered for the bigger tracks, its also done 160,000 miles of which the last 5000 have been thrashed senseless so its time for a engine swap so....

I want above 200bhp ( my road toy is a 300 bhp mk5 r32)

I'll do some of the work my self and have a race mechanic as a friend who'll help out for friend prices

I don't mind swapping the box for what ever fits

I've got 3-4 grand

If you were me what would you do???

[spikenipple]

For that money you could probably get a MK5 2.0T engine in there, although I don't know what's involved in getting one of those to fit.
The MK4 1.8T is a fairly common swap and there are plenty of people on here that have done it with great results. Have a look through the MK4 section and you'll see that you can get decent power out of these engines too!

[th3_f15t]

There's not many 2.0 litre TSFI swaps into mk3's I've seen, but that's more of a reason to do it. You can pick up a CDL/BHZ engine (from an S3 or mk5 ED30 GTI) which has the K04 turbo and stronger internals, little effort results in 300bhp or more.

I think there's a fair bit of electrical trickery and VCDS coding requires to get such a modern engine happy in an older car but it's possible. Seen a 2.0 litre TFSI in a mk2 Rallye.

[barrym381]

buy a cheap 1.8t mk4 use all the bits you need then sell the rest and buy a bbt k300 then a map by r-tech cost you way less than 3k  or just buy 1 already done for 3k sell your own

[gav600]

MMMmm, i like the idea of a modern 2.0 turbo but i can get a reliable 300bhp form a 1.8 turbo ( il do forged internals) .....


cheers gents, lots to think about

p.s the r32 has to go
black 4 door

miltex
kw variants all round
schrick cams
revo re pam
revo gearbox re map
3sdm 0.05's on stretched falken 452's ( original wheels with it)
new top end rebuild when the cams were done
new steering rack
full respray last year
meticulously maintained and serviced

Just bought a xfr jag

Maintained

[Gti_Jamo]

Why don't you rebuild it's original engine but to cater for a big turbo.

[madmanmart]

Go for a 1.8T, cheap reliable power.

[Sam]

If you have 4k to spaff:

Getting a 1.8t out of a MK4 in, running and mapped will do you for 200BHP or a zaust plus a few other bits will see you running 230ish with a 'stage 2 map'. So, that's £2k gone. Now spend the remaining 2k on tyres, brakes fuel and track-day burger vans.

[Wayne]

Go for a 1.8t setup, with a map will be great fun in a mk3

[Adam]

I'd for one go for the 1.8T on OEM/Emerald management.

Ditch the greenstuff pads. No better than OEM.