abf engine bhp?

[oakgreengolf]

A few weeks back I got 169bhp on the rollers. Obviously no cat being a mk2. also has a 4 branch manifold, miltec exhaust and a k&n panel filter.

[tshirt2k]

I'd say that was a tad optimistic especially on standard ecu map

[VW BUSH]

they are talking about the mk4 engines me thinks

*SLAP* No.  ABF is 2.0 16V motor from Golf3

It comes standard 150 bhp but with a simple chip it will gain 30bhp. when looking at mk3's lots were advertised with 180bhp and when I enquired it was because it they had been chipped.

Barryboy Horse Power maybe.

The engine has potential, but you're not going to let that out with a chip.  You *might* see a genuine 160bhp frigging about with the mapping, but you need to get the gases away from it to start getting some proper benefit.  Danny's ABF dynoed at around 170bhp with a four-branch manifold on the back of it.

180bhp would need a cam, 4-branch manifold and a custom map.

200bhp will need head work, ITBs and ARP bolts on the bottom end to keep it together, as well as a different crank sensor as the one in the engine can disintegrate once you start lifting the rev-limiter.

Anyone quoting 180bhp from a chip is speaking sh*t.

Quite aware the where the ABF comes from.

Hi guys
So thinking about going for one but just a little confussed
I see some people saying 150bhp and some 180bhp

Can someone clesr this up for me please?
Much appreciated

The "people" he was referencing are likely getting confused with the Mk4 engines as they have by coincidence 150 and 180 bhp, very much the same kind of folk who think a chip adds 30bhp.

[Foreveryoungaus16v]

apparently the engine is incredibly chippable. It comes standard 150 bhp but with a simple chip it will gain 30bhp. when looking at mk3's lots were advertised with 180bhp and when I enquired it was because it they had been chipped.

haha no way 30bhp. Maybe 6 lol

[Diamond Hell]

A few weeks back I got 169bhp on the rollers. Obviously no cat being a mk2. also has a 4 branch manifold, miltec exhaust and a k&n panel filter.

Consistent with Danny and my experiences.

[Metallix]

A few weeks back I got 169bhp on the rollers. Obviously no cat being a mk2. also has a 4 branch manifold, miltec exhaust and a k&n panel filter.

Missing one important detail 

Where was it tested at?   (brand of dyno would help too!)

[tshirt2k]

A few weeks back I got 169bhp on the rollers. Obviously no cat being a mk2. also has a 4 branch manifold, miltec exhaust and a k&n panel filter.

Missing one important detail 

Where was it tested at?   (brand of dyno would help too!)

Conditions?

Also you can't compare engines unless they are tested on the same day, dyno and similar conditions.

And very much doubt it was a DD.   

[danny_p]

ignore the estimated flywheel power and go off recorded wheel power,   you can compare motors with more certanty on diffrent dyno's

there isn't really any excuse for much error in wheel bhp. 

at work we used to send an electric car to a few rolling roads   dyno printouts  v's datalogs were sometimes very intresting it hads to be said