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Offline master_hayabusa

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Re: Possible Edition 40 Golf GTI preview next week
« Reply #1 on: 01 May 2013, 22:26 »
Interesting bit is where they say that the mechanical diff on the PP Golf can "only" handle around 250ps. Doesn't leave a lot of scope for the tuning boys ?
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Re: Possible Edition 40 Golf GTI preview next week
« Reply #3 on: 02 May 2013, 04:53 »
VW always put on a few special GTIs for Worthersee, some of them just styling cues for upcoming models (W12 had lots of mk6 styling hints) and some are design features that appear later on.
So I reckon a special GTI will be revealed that will have weight saving bits which will appear on the R.

The ED40 is a little way off yet and they can't even make their minds up whether or not to start building GTIs and GTDs...
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Re: Possible Edition 40 Golf GTI preview next week
« Reply #4 on: 02 May 2013, 07:20 »
That article mentioned the edition 40 maybe getting the carbon roof that was originally intended for the gti but never made it.

I think they should make all the body out of carbon!  :drool:

Not sure I can hang on for 2 more years though...

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Re: Possible Edition 40 Golf GTI preview next week
« Reply #5 on: 02 May 2013, 10:34 »
The ED40 is a little way off yet and they can't even make their minds up whether or not to start building GTIs and GTDs...

I reckons the robots have gone on strike and negotiations have stalled as no one quite knows how to say "in line with inflation oil wages" in binary.

I think they should make all the body out of carbon!  :drool:

Doesn't that make it an instant death machine if you come in contact with other objects at speed such as an HGV, 4v4, lampost, wall, any other car, bike, pedestrian, a bird, small rocks...?  :whistle:

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Re: Possible Edition 40 Golf GTI preview next week
« Reply #6 on: 02 May 2013, 14:58 »
Oooh, exciting and 2015 is perfect timing  :cool:

Just what I was thinking. 2 years so save some pennies.
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Re: Possible Edition 40 Golf GTI preview next week
« Reply #7 on: 02 May 2013, 18:19 »
This is 'Pistonheads' take on it....

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=27654

Are GTi sales in the UK really flagging???
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Re: Possible Edition 40 Golf GTI preview next week
« Reply #8 on: 03 May 2013, 04:42 »


Are GTi sales in the UK really flagging???

In a very unscientific way I'd say "yes".
When the mk5 was at its peak hot hatch sales were very strong, there were STs and VXRs and other sporty hatches everywhere but times have changed and the hot hatches have either become company Diesels (FRs and GTDs and whatever the Ford and Vauxhall equivalents are plus BMW 120s etc) which offer 90% of the real world performance with excellent economy and low running costs or more specialised machinery like the Megane RS thingy and the Cooper Works.
VW have recognised the change in the market naturally and hence we have the PP GTI that offers a balance between the standard GTI's well thought out blend of spec vs cost vs all rounder family car with sporting touches and a more focussed tech laden hot hatch.
Reading the bits saying the diff doesn't handle more than 260 bhp makes us see why VW limited the PP to 10 bhp more so the next obvious thing to do with a niche car is to save weight if you can't give it masses of extra power.

The R is even more of an expensive niche car and you don't see that many GTIs or R's on the roads even now (plenty of GTDs) after the mk6 has been in production for 4 years.
You see mk5 GTIs everywhere. You see mk4 GTIs everywhere.

So yes, I can believe the market has changed and thus the GTI has become very much a niche car again. The Scirocco probably dilutes the GTI market even more.
And the limited production VW do doesn't help to increase sales as I'm sure there are a lot of people on car contracts that can't allow for the long lead times when the vehicle they have has to be returned by a set date and you can get a 1 series or Astra or Focus or whatever almost right away.
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