Don't forget the crude and unruly bit
I'm blinkered and being lead astray by the VW-love on this forum. 
Strength through Joy
I thought Joy was a BMW thing?
That's funny. I guess that BMW's next tagline will be "arbeit macht frei" which translates as if you work hard enough, you might be able to afford a three-series!
Egbert Nosh, you are both right and wrong. Although the Mark 7 will arrive in 2 years time, the GTI will be one year behind it and the R will be another 9-12 months behind that. This seems to be the timing precedent they have followed. According to my dodgy arithmetic, this makes around 4 years before the next R goes on sale. Of course, if petrol taxes go up further and the recession continues, who knows VW could even avoid making another R altogether due to reduced demand. An unlikelu scenario, I admit, but not impossible. Worse still, there is talk of the EU mandating black boxes in cars that measure speed, consumption and emissions. I so hope this never happens, but either way, now So may be the last proper R you can buy. I intend to live for the present not the future. I will order an R as soon as someone I trust has reviewed it positively.
