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Offline Stevo-1

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Advice needed
« on: 18 August 2009, 09:49 »
Hi,

I'm new to the forum and straight away I need some buying-advice. I'm looking to buy a second-hand MK5 GTI with DSG, 12/2004 (five-doors) and only 6.500 miles. I'm getting rid of my Alfa GT since my wife and I are expecting a baby.

I already tested it for only 20 minutes and was well impressed by the immaculate state of the interior and the power (+ decent sound).

Can you give me some buying tips: the overall state of the car is really good on first sight, I'm just wondering what to check concerning the DSG-box (I'm new to the DSG driving experience) and the general way of driving.
My concern is the fact that it's already nearly 5 years old and did only 6.500 miles (in a way the low mileage os also positive I guess ...)

Any specific things to look out for ?

Thanks in advance  :wink:


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Re: Advice needed
« Reply #1 on: 18 August 2009, 09:52 »
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=64432.0

Welcome along. Hummmm 5 years an 6.5k does seem odd, but stranger things have happened.

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Re: Advice needed
« Reply #2 on: 18 August 2009, 10:07 »
Thanks for the reply

I know but it used to be a dealer's car for over three years. They registered it in the end due to the fact that the dealer received a bonus from the VAG-group for doing that (here in Belgium that is ...). After that it was sold to a guy who drove it for 9 months and who bought an S4 instead. I already checked the history as told and the dealer confirmed the explanation the second-hand dealer told me ...

I was just wondering if standing still for a long time does some harm to the car, if it was a car from 2007 or so I'd already bought it I guess ...

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Re: Advice needed
« Reply #3 on: 18 August 2009, 10:10 »
So how long has it actually been standing still for? I wouldnt worry too much about it. Make sure it gets a service and all the fluids changed before you get it though. I would have thought who ever owned would have turned it on now and again and taken it for a small drive just to keep it ticking over. If its been standing for a long time make sure the battery is ok aswell.

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Re: Advice needed
« Reply #4 on: 18 August 2009, 16:38 »
Hi,

I'm new to the forum and straight away I need some buying-advice. I'm looking to buy a second-hand MK5 GTI with DSG, 12/2004 (five-doors) and only 6.500 miles.

That does sound a tad alarming to me!  About 1,200 miles a year on average . . . . I know low mileage is generally seen as a good thing, but that does seem really extreme.  :huh: :undecided:

I already tested it for only 20 minutes and was well impressed by the immaculate state of the interior and the power (+ decent sound).

Well with only 6.5 k miles on the clock, it should be immaculate.  But it will hardly be run in - most VAG cars generally don't make full power until about 8-10k miles has elapsed.  :smug:

Can you give me some buying tips: the overall state of the car is really good on first sight, I'm just wondering what to check concerning the DSG-box (I'm new to the DSG driving experience) and the general way of driving.
My concern is the fact that it's already nearly 5 years old and did only 6.500 miles (in a way the low mileage os also positive I guess ...)

Any specific things to look out for ?

Yup, the DSG must have had a service at 4 years or 40k miles - now obviously your prospective purchase is a long way off 40k miles, but it has passed the 4 year period.

Secondly, the cam belt needs changing, again for the same reasons as the DSG (though timing belts are generally safe upto 5 years or 60k miles).

Finally, check the tyres - for 'age deterioration' of the rubber, and make sure a brake fluid change is also been done every 2 years.


And as just a general 'gut feeling' observation - I reckon there is a high possibility that that car might be an import - ie a not an official UK car - so two issues.  You need to ensure that it has a full UK specification, including rear fog on the right, headlamps which dip to the left, speedo in mph rather than just kmh, and that it has the 2zone climate control.  Secondly, a whole load of unsold imported cars stood for months and months at dock car park pounds, and many were known to suffer from corrosion - especially on the alloy components under the bonnet, and also the alloy wheels corroding onto the hubs.

If you want any independent confirmation of the vehicles status (is it an import, or is it a proper UK car - along with the full specification), then you can PM me the full VIN, and I can do a full on-line look up.  Obviously, you'll need to stack up a minimum post count of 10 posts on this forum before PMs are activated - so you may need to pop over to the 'new members' section of the forum for some virtual 'meeting and greeting'.  :wink:

HTH  :smiley:
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Re: Advice needed
« Reply #5 on: 18 August 2009, 17:43 »
Thanks for the reply

I know but it used to be a dealer's car for over three years. They registered it in the end due to the fact that the dealer received a bonus from the VAG-group for doing that (here in Belgium that is ...). After that it was sold to a guy who drove it for 9 months and who bought an S4 instead. I already checked the history as told and the dealer confirmed the explanation the second-hand dealer told me ...

I was just wondering if standing still for a long time does some harm to the car, if it was a car from 2007 or so I'd already bought it I guess ...



Yup, the DSG must have had a service at 4 years or 40k miles - now obviously your prospective purchase is a long way off 40k miles, but it has passed the 4 year period.

Secondly, the cam belt needs changing, again for the same reasons as the DSG (though timing belts are generally safe upto 5 years or 60k miles).

Finally, check the tyres - for 'age deterioration' of the rubber, and make sure a brake fluid change is also been done every 2 years.


And as just a general 'gut feeling' observation - I reckon there is a high possibility that that car might be an import - ie a not an official UK car - so two issues.  You need to ensure that it has a full UK specification, including rear fog on the right, headlamps which dip to the left, speedo in mph rather than just kmh, and that it has the 2zone climate control.  Secondly, a whole load of unsold imported cars stood for months and months at dock car park pounds, and many were known to suffer from corrosion - especially on the alloy components under the bonnet, and also the alloy wheels corroding onto the hubs.

If you want any independent confirmation of the vehicles status (is it an import, or is it a proper UK car - along with the full specification), then you can PM me the full VIN, and I can do a full on-line look up.  Obviously, you'll need to stack up a minimum post count of 10 posts on this forum before PMs are activated - so you may need to pop over to the 'new members' section of the forum for some virtual 'meeting and greeting'.  :wink:

HTH  :smiley:

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Re: Advice needed
« Reply #6 on: 18 August 2009, 18:24 »
Jeez you learn something new each and every day...I thought mk5 only came out in 05...didnt realise they went that far back...oh dear Ive misposted to the dude with the dodgy doors locks...better go and correct myself D'Oh!

Let the fun begin........Red Gti, full colour coding, DSG, Xenons, Winter pack, Lux pack, Highline, Sat Nav, Sunroof, Leather, Milltek, ABT rear valance, Goodyear F1 Asymmetrics....pescaras :-)

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Re: Advice needed
« Reply #7 on: 18 August 2009, 18:25 »
Thanks for the reply

I know but it used to be a dealer's car for over three years. They registered it in the end due to the fact that the dealer received a bonus from the VAG-group for doing that (here in Belgium that is ...). After that it was sold to a guy who drove it for 9 months and who bought an S4 instead. I already checked the history as told and the dealer confirmed the explanation the second-hand dealer told me ...

I was just wondering if standing still for a long time does some harm to the car, if it was a car from 2007 or so I'd already bought it I guess ...



Yup, the DSG must have had a service at 4 years or 40k miles - now obviously your prospective purchase is a long way off 40k miles, but it has passed the 4 year period.

Secondly, the cam belt needs changing, again for the same reasons as the DSG (though timing belts are generally safe upto 5 years or 60k miles).

Finally, check the tyres - for 'age deterioration' of the rubber, and make sure a brake fluid change is also been done every 2 years.


And as just a general 'gut feeling' observation - I reckon there is a high possibility that that car might be an import - ie a not an official UK car - so two issues.  You need to ensure that it has a full UK specification, including rear fog on the right, headlamps which dip to the left, speedo in mph rather than just kmh, and that it has the 2zone climate control.  Secondly, a whole load of unsold imported cars stood for months and months at dock car park pounds, and many were known to suffer from corrosion - especially on the alloy components under the bonnet, and also the alloy wheels corroding onto the hubs.

If you want any independent confirmation of the vehicles status (is it an import, or is it a proper UK car - along with the full specification), then you can PM me the full VIN, and I can do a full on-line look up.  Obviously, you'll need to stack up a minimum post count of 10 posts on this forum before PMs are activated - so you may need to pop over to the 'new members' section of the forum for some virtual 'meeting and greeting'.  :wink:

HTH  :smiley:

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Yebut . . . yebut . . . that was further down the thread!  :embarassed:
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Re: Advice needed
« Reply #8 on: 18 August 2009, 19:52 »
Jeez you learn something new each and every day...I thought mk5 only came out in 05...didnt realise they went that far back...oh dear Ive misposted to the dude with the dodgy doors locks...better go and correct myself D'Oh!

Mines december 04 on a 54 plate :afro:
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