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Offline cam_paseo

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Re: Induction kit dangerous?
« Reply #20 on: 04 June 2009, 13:46 »
A combination of:

1) CAI with low mount cone filter in the bumper.
2) Deep ford or puddle
3) Forgetfull or risk taking driver

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Hydrolock = naffed engine.


Nick

Well i guess i can be forgetfull haha so its coming off.

Offline Waffs1984

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Re: Induction kit dangerous?
« Reply #21 on: 04 June 2009, 14:19 »
I know there have been several people who have mashed engines because of CAI's but as you say - risky or forgetful - there is no reason whatsoever why CAI kits should suck up water unless you hit a seriously large pudde. I mean my golf is on coilies lowered about 50-60mm and the filter must still be a good 300mm off the ground at least. Now i don't know about you but i wouldn't be driving any hatchback through a foot deep puddle regardless of CAI or not. I know you sometimes get areas in the UK where foot deep puddles may occur at the side of the road in heavy rain but i just wait until the road ahead is clear and drive down the middle - its only been raining heaviliy enough twice in the last year for me to serisouly take caution when navigating puddles.

I don't really see them as a bigger issue than those who run their cars on like -100mm where the sump could crack if you hit a bump, thus risking loosing all the oil out of the engine and mashing it that way. Your much more likely to come across a monster speedbump and do this that suck water into your filter surely?

Also - to finish off my tuppence - for the CAI to suck water up it would in theory have to be completely submerged, although i agree that any sort of standing water above the lowest level of the filter is probably bad news!

Sorry for the essay but its the same with most things, those who have had something go wrong will always say don't do it, whereas those who have never had a problem will say do it - at the end of the day mate its up to you  :wink:
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Re: Induction kit dangerous?
« Reply #22 on: 04 June 2009, 14:38 »
I know there have been several people who have mashed engines because of CAI's but as you say - risky or forgetful - there is no reason whatsoever why CAI kits should suck up water unless you hit a seriously large pudde. I mean my golf is on coilies lowered about 50-60mm and the filter must still be a good 300mm off the ground at least. Now i don't know about you but i wouldn't be driving any hatchback through a foot deep puddle regardless of CAI or not. I know you sometimes get areas in the UK where foot deep puddles may occur at the side of the road in heavy rain but i just wait until the road ahead is clear and drive down the middle - its only been raining heaviliy enough twice in the last year for me to serisouly take caution when navigating puddles.

I don't really see them as a bigger issue than those who run their cars on like -100mm where the sump could crack if you hit a bump, thus risking loosing all the oil out of the engine and mashing it that way. Your much more likely to come across a monster speedbump and do this that suck water into your filter surely?

Also - to finish off my tuppence - for the CAI to suck water up it would in theory have to be completely submerged, although i agree that any sort of standing water above the lowest level of the filter is probably bad news!

Sorry for the essay but its the same with most things, those who have had something go wrong will always say don't do it, whereas those who have never had a problem will say do it - at the end of the day mate its up to you  :wink:

Good opinion  :wink:

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Re: Induction kit dangerous?
« Reply #23 on: 04 June 2009, 14:50 »
I know there have been several people who have mashed engines because of CAI's but as you say - risky or forgetful - there is no reason whatsoever why CAI kits should suck up water unless you hit a seriously large pudde. I mean my golf is on coilies lowered about 50-60mm and the filter must still be a good 300mm off the ground at least. Now i don't know about you but i wouldn't be driving any hatchback through a foot deep puddle regardless of CAI or not. I know you sometimes get areas in the UK where foot deep puddles may occur at the side of the road in heavy rain but i just wait until the road ahead is clear and drive down the middle - its only been raining heaviliy enough twice in the last year for me to serisouly take caution when navigating puddles.

I don't really see them as a bigger issue than those who run their cars on like -100mm where the sump could crack if you hit a bump, thus risking loosing all the oil out of the engine and mashing it that way. Your much more likely to come across a monster speedbump and do this that suck water into your filter surely?

Also - to finish off my tuppence - for the CAI to suck water up it would in theory have to be completely submerged, although i agree that any sort of standing water above the lowest level of the filter is probably bad news!

Sorry for the essay but its the same with most things, those who have had something go wrong will always say don't do it, whereas those who have never had a problem will say do it - at the end of the day mate its up to you  :wink:

Just because something else is more dangerous doesn't make the other thing less dangerous.:wink:

OP- have you thought about a BMC CDA or Neuspeed P-Flo? they are located in the bay.

On a side note I think you can get filter 'jackets' that can stop water but I'd thought they'd stop air as well!

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Re: Induction kit dangerous?
« Reply #24 on: 04 June 2009, 14:53 »
well ash had his inside a bottle didnt he? and well his died  :undecided:

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Re: Induction kit dangerous?
« Reply #25 on: 04 June 2009, 14:55 »
well ash had his inside a bottle didnt he? and well his died  :undecided:

Think Ash's was exposed and I was at the same meet when it happened (as my car died as well-as well as a few others) and although the rain was heavy it wasn't flooded. So there is still a risk.

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Re: Induction kit dangerous?
« Reply #26 on: 04 June 2009, 14:58 »
The days everyone's car broke down at Brands when it rained was just mental. I still to this day have never driven in such heavy rain on the way home, was doing 30 - 40 on the motorway as you just couldn't see because the wipers couldn't keep up.

Robs MK2 also gave up that night.

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Re: Induction kit dangerous?
« Reply #27 on: 04 June 2009, 15:02 »
get it off off off trust me :rolleyes:

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Re: Induction kit dangerous?
« Reply #28 on: 04 June 2009, 15:37 »
i will :P