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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: jacko16v on 11 December 2008, 17:04

Title: ABF Lump
Post by: jacko16v on 11 December 2008, 17:04
Whats the going rate for an ABF lump, just picked a full engine with all bits bolted to it but no loom. Paid £70 for it.

Gonna strip and rebuild it, head work and then run it on weber 45's.

Does any one know if the kr ecu will be ok to get my spark from?
Title: Re: ABF Lump
Post by: danny_p on 11 December 2008, 17:42
meh it'll sort of work
Title: Re: ABF Lump
Post by: jacko16v on 12 December 2008, 08:04
Sort of work or will work? whats the best way to tackle it?
Title: Re: ABF Lump
Post by: danny_p on 12 December 2008, 11:08
really need mapable ignition with knock sensors.   
never been inpressed with abf's on webbers   they make about 170 - 175.  but low throttel / rpm   driveing isn't to nice  and they are bloody thirsty. if you used bike carbs things would be a bit diffrent  40mm  bike carbs will give more power and better part throttel driveing     
Title: Re: ABF Lump
Post by: jacko16v on 12 December 2008, 14:12
So a set of bike carbs with a 40mm choke would be a better bet then. I presume i can make a inlet manifold from the old intake with out any major problems
Title: Re: ABF Lump
Post by: Diamond Hell on 12 December 2008, 16:29
You'll need to get a 'stub manifold' made up to take the inlet spacing from the 16V to the bike carbs, as this is almost inevitably going to be different.  You *may* like to make a support bracket to go underneath the carbs which will hold them securely in place and ensure they work properly.
Title: Re: ABF Lump
Post by: sidecarphil on 12 December 2008, 19:50
look up bogg brothers for a manifold to fit bike carb's , thay made one for me on my XR3 with a 2.0ltr zetec in it on R1 bike carb's

went like HELLLLLLLLLL

supped the fuel though  :embarassed: :embarassed:
Title: Re: ABF Lump
Post by: jacko16v on 12 December 2008, 21:01
Yeah seen bogg bros stuff before but aint upto paying there prices for a inlet manifold, have been told that i can cut a standard inlet and run off that with a bit or work for bike carbs, i'm not bothered about it being pretty, its only a track car.
Title: Re: ABF Lump
Post by: sidecarphil on 12 December 2008, 21:12
£125 for a manifold  :undecided: :undecided: not expensave

from what i learned racing sidecar's is if you cut corners with cost's and stuff it will bite you in the ass with break down's

Title: Re: ABF Lump
Post by: jacko16v on 12 December 2008, 21:18
Where do you get £125 frrom, when i spoke to them it was over £300
Title: Re: ABF Lump
Post by: sidecarphil on 12 December 2008, 21:30
jesus really

well in that case sorry , mine was £125


they got expesnsave
Title: Re: ABF Lump
Post by: jacko16v on 12 December 2008, 22:04
They got greedy me thinks.
Title: Re: ABF Lump
Post by: Diamond Hell on 13 December 2008, 09:00
What they do is all the rage though, isn't it?

Altiss Engineering do exactly the same stuff and quoted me £240-300 for a stub manifold and they would be able to get it to me by mid-February if I ordered it now.
Title: Re: ABF Lump
Post by: sidecarphil on 13 December 2008, 09:24
foooooooooooooooooking ell

it is only a piece of alloy machined the same shape as the gasket , with 4 tubes on it !!!!!!!!!!!

sorry for the swearing  :shocked:
Title: Re: ABF Lump
Post by: jacko16v on 13 December 2008, 15:45
This is why i'm thinking of making one from a old inlet manifold cut in half and welding some stubs to it.
Title: Re: ABF Lump
Post by: richard s on 14 December 2008, 15:19
why not see if you can get some images of their manifold and copy what they have done
Title: Re: ABF Lump
Post by: oakgreengolf on 14 December 2008, 15:55
Not sure whether this is of use to you

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/mk1-mk2-16v-golf-gti-bike-carbs-HONDA-FIREBLADE-900RR_W0QQitemZ200288156237QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item200288156237&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1301%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
Title: Re: ABF Lump
Post by: jacko16v on 14 December 2008, 20:43
That is bang on what i want, will make an offer at what i think its worth.