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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: Hilton_K on 09 December 2008, 10:42

Title: Bluefin Acting Strangly
Post by: Hilton_K on 09 December 2008, 10:42
Hello ppl, below is an email I just sent to Blufin support, does anyone have any ideas on what the problem could be? Similar to the problems discussed in this thread also...http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3973322

Car: 2007 MK5 Golf GTI.
Bluefin: Stage One, recently sent hand unit back for firmware update so ECU counter would not be activated.

Currently have had Bluefin installed onto my GTI for 30,000Km with out any dramas.

However over the last month or so the car has been acting a little strangely. When driving easy around town or on the highway for around 10-15Km the car will boost strangly, peak and hold 14-15PSI instead of the normal 17PSI of the Bluefin software. As a result the loss of hp and torque is noticed straight away and the car feels quite flat. The only way I have been able to stop this is by turning the car off and then on again, once this happens the car will boost and pull how it should with Bluefin installed.

A few days ago I reflashed back to the stock file (1st time since recieving the unit back from the firmware update) and then back to Bluefin to see if it would fix the problem. Unfortunately it did not. After driving easy at higway speeds for a few Km's it dropped boost levels and acted like I stated above.

Today I spoke to VW and decided to revert the ECU back to the stock file once more. This time however I went for a long drive to see if it drops boost levels etc on the stock file. It did not, car ran fine.

I am wondering if I require an updated Bluefin ECU file or if It is a deeper problem with the Bluefin software.

Title: Re: Bluefin Acting Strangly
Post by: topher on 09 December 2008, 10:45
It may be a problem with the map, it may not. A remap can highlight other problems with your car that are not apparent with the stock tuning. Do you have access to vagcom or other fault reading gadgets?
Title: Re: Bluefin Acting Strangly
Post by: Hilton_K on 09 December 2008, 10:50
Unfortunately no, Bluefin hand controller is supposed to according to the website but mine has never been able to.

Been talking to VW about it and have the car booked in next week, hopefully a code does show and they will fix it for me. Although I'm doubtfull this will happen if the problem only occurs when flashed.
Title: Re: Bluefin Acting Strangly
Post by: Hurdy on 09 December 2008, 15:35
From memory another member on here had an issue with his Bluefin map and took his car to SC headquarters to have it fixed. I believe his was a map specific fault too, but his din't "act strange" as yours does. Hopefully he'll be along later, but if my memory serves me right he went on a JKM RR day and had a poor show on the dyno, which highlighted the issue.

Do a search for the JKM southampton RR day and it should be in there somewhere, or a general search for Bluefin issues. :smiley:
Title: Re: Bluefin Acting Strangly
Post by: Hilton_K on 10 December 2008, 08:25
I'm happy with the power it makes when the map is working correctly...It's just when it reverts back to stock power levels whilst driving that is frustrating. At present there has been no CEL's and the car runs perfect whilst flashed with the stock file :cry:

Hopefully SC will get back to me in the next day or two!
Title: Re: Bluefin Acting Strangly
Post by: Egbutt Wash on 10 December 2008, 10:00
When driving easy around town or on the highway for around 10-15Km the car will boost strangly, peak and hold 14-15PSI instead of the normal 17PSI of the Bluefin software.

Hilton,
I would love to know my boost pressure.  How to you measure it on your car?
Title: Re: Bluefin Acting Strangly
Post by: Hilton_K on 10 December 2008, 10:41
Measure it with the Defi boost gauge I have installed  :wink: Have it installed in an OSIR vent gauge pod.
Title: Re: Bluefin Acting Strangly
Post by: Egbutt Wash on 10 December 2008, 13:05
Just a thought,
Have you tried running the car with the boost gauge unplugged from the original VW wiring?
Electronic signals can be very touchy about piggybacked third party remote devices.

Title: Re: Bluefin Acting Strangly
Post by: dan_apps on 10 December 2008, 13:23
From memory another member on here had an issue with his Bluefin map and took his car to SC headquarters to have it fixed. I believe his was a map specific fault too, but his din't "act strange" as yours does. Hopefully he'll be along later, but if my memory serves me right he went on a JKM RR day and had a poor show on the dyno, which highlighted the issue.

Do a search for the JKM southampton RR day and it should be in there somewhere, or a general search for Bluefin issues. :smiley:

T'was Telboy, best thing is to PM him Hilton_K  :smiley:
Title: Re: Bluefin Acting Strangly
Post by: SO8 on 12 December 2008, 19:23
I would have thought the Bluefin map is most likely to be showing up another problem which standard settings are not touching .... only with the increased power is the problem 'visible'. 

As you've had it trouble free for such a mileage I can't see how it has gone wrong ........ unless the map got corrupted in the firmware upgrade ?
Title: Re: Bluefin Acting Strangly
Post by: illyun on 13 December 2008, 16:00
Yet another bluefin post citing problems... glad I listen to our Resident Expert TT and went for Revo  :smug: I can't see many posts complaining about Revo.  Hope you get your problem sorted out. 
Title: Re: Bluefin Acting Strangly
Post by: Greenouse on 13 December 2008, 20:15
Theres only been one other Bluefin owner who had 'problems' to my knowledge and that was the fact he wasn't getting the horse's he expected................

Get yourself to the pod on the 1st Illyun and we'll see how problematic Bluefin is  :wink: :evil:
Title: Re: Bluefin Acting Strangly
Post by: SO8 on 13 December 2008, 20:59
I'm really pleased with the Bluefin on my Ed 30 .... does exactly what they said it would .... :evil:
Title: Re: Bluefin Acting Strangly
Post by: Hurdy on 14 December 2008, 00:32
Ooooh,

The Pod meet could quickly turn into the battle of the tuners at this rate

Place your votes chaps as this is getting interesting :wink:
Title: Re: Bluefin Acting Strangly
Post by: Hilton_K on 12 June 2009, 16:29
Well here is an update to my 'problem'

Car was in for it's 60,000Km or 2 year service earlier this year. After the service the car has not missed a beat  :smiley: Only thing I can put it down to is shot spark plugs or a partially blocked fuel filter as these were changed in the service. :undecided: Have ordered a new DV the new piston type and also have a new fuel pump cam follower sitting on my desk ready to be put in as a preventative messure, after all the car has a few KM's on it with the tune.

Now I'm thinking of getting a Milteck dump pipe and asking for a stage 2 file from Superchips, bit worried as 2 poeple I know of have had issues with the upgraded file and to fix it have had to resort to swapping tunning companies. What sort of feedback has the Stage 2 file been recieving in the UK?

Thanks for everyones help.
Title: Re: Bluefin Acting Strangly
Post by: sunnylunn on 12 June 2009, 17:32
i've had bluefin on mine for over 2yrs and am really impressed with it. it seems that anyone with a different remap is going to believe that theirs is best. no problems there. i dont believe that there can be too much difference between them or we would all have the same one, horses for courses. i've had fantastic customer service from superchips and don't understand the negative feedback they get.i'm not knocking revo, they are without doubt, one of the leading vw tuners out there and i would have no problem having them remap my ed30, but bluefin is the option i like, easy to install - un-install, goes like hell, good value :smiley: