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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: Anil on 04 December 2008, 18:59
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I need some info please, i planning on selling my mk4 and using the cash as a down payment for a mk5 gt fsi from cargiant. Im an impatient person and once i have my heart set on something i wont stop at nothing to get it, however i went to my brother for advice on a mk5 55plate gt fsi model and what he said is something im trying to avoid, apparently the early mk5 models e.g. 04/54 05/55 plate arent as reliably sound as the later released models, i know golfs are solid motors but obviously nothings perfect as i have experienced with my mk4 and im after a mk5 purely so i know its a long while away til things might go wrong mechanically. Basically im asking if its true that the earlier mk5 models are not as good as my brother suggests. This is really bugging me as the deal is quite good from cargiant and im sure i can bring the price down a bit more.
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Hi - I think the unreliability issues surrounding the early Mk5's are a bit of a myth - Build quality could be better (e.g plastics) but in truth, I've had my 55 plate GTI for a good few weeks now - and it's been brilliant.
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Sorry but your brother is talking rubbish and also not backing up his opinions with anything specific.
Car manufacturers will revise some details as production continues and some of those revisions are good and some not so good, depending on what you prefer. Example - VW changed the glass tint from blue to green - I much prefer the blue, someone else will prefer the green.
Much as we may criticise and find fault, the German manufacturers offer very well built cars which tend to last.
It's considered wise not to buy any car in its very first year of production - Not because it's rubbish but because the next revisions might iron out initial issues if there are any.
Some will prefer the Mk4 and others prefer the Mk5 - All for a great variety of reasons, but the 2.0T FSI engine is award-winning, literally!
[I have an 05 plate Mk5 GTI with 58,000 miles and sweet as a nut]
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This is why I bought a second hand, late model (57-plate) so any issues in theory should already have been ironed out.
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there are always going to be issues with new cars but they are usually small, anything big usually warrants a recall where the dealer will fix said issue at no cost! thats why we have warranty when we buy a car from new :smiley:
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I'm on my 2nd Mk V, and have had no problems with the cars, and my 1st R32 (sorely missed :cry:) couldn't be blamed for the idiot who drove straight into the rear end.
Go for it.
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i think everybody wants a newer car.. but as rr said they make revised editions with minor changes that suit various peoples tastes, and most people dont know the difference expect the 08 on the plate.. (just using 08 as an example)
bottom line is the mk5 golf gti is still the same car regardless of how new it is, only difference is that some people have paid far more for a newer gti like 18-19k when you can have the same car with slightly higher mileage for around 5k less and to be stating a fact vw turbos dont get to the optimum untill around 35-40k and thats a 26yr vw technician who told me that.
it amazes me how much people spend on a vw, i mean come on 19k!! you could get a far better car than the gti for that.. most people are shocked when they ask how much i paid for mine and i say 15k they say im crazy spending that much on a vw, i always respond with the first owner paid 20k for it and sold it 1.5 years later for 15k lol
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Anil,
Why have you got your heart set on a GT FSI?
I daren't hardly say it but the diesels are much better value, cheaper insurance, go better and are more efficient :shocked:
Unless you are getting it at a silly cheap price?
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Anil,
Why have you got your heart set on a GT FSI?
I daren't hardly say it but the diesels are much better value, cheaper insurance, go better and are more efficient :shocked:
Unless you are getting it at a silly cheap price?
My thoughts exactly.
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Get a GTI!!! There wont be that much difference mpg wise. There are loads of excellent GTI 2nd hand examples out there for good money, especially at the moment.
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I was thinking of a mk4 GTI for ages but i came across the 2.0 gt fsi and i became quite drawn to it. If you mean get a mk5 gti then basically i would love to but i cant afford it to be honest, its well out of my budget, however they are very tempting especially when 5 or 6 of them are lined up in different colours staring at you (you have to see it to understand my rambling).
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I am not sure what sort of money you can pick up a MK5 GT FSI for to be honest but I hope it all goes well for you. Just keep an aye on GTI prices just in case. Buyers market at the moment and I am sure lots of bargining to be done on any sale :smiley:
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Anil,
Why have you got your heart set on a GT FSI?
I daren't hardly say it but the diesels are much better value, cheaper insurance, go better and are more efficient :shocked:
Unless you are getting it at a silly cheap price?
Erm, I dont know the story behind this particular gt fsi, however i did my research as usual and many traders and private sellers are offering the same year but more mileage for slightly more in price, in my eyes it does seem the cheapest one of its kind that i have seen myself.
Me being slightly too impatient i decided to go check this car out in car giant about 8.30 in the evening a few days ago, so as you can imagine it was pretty dark and the lights helped a little bit, so i got my light out on the phone and did a once over, the brakes were rusty as usual, hardly any scratches.... so i thought "very nice indeed, but why is this one cheaper" so i had a browse over the exterior again and i noticed there is a dent in the bottom corner of the drivers side door, this to me looks definitely like the door was opened all the way too close to a curb or wall, silly mistake perhaps?
I have considered diesels a huuuuge amount, but they again are slightly more in price compared, yes they are cheaper for me on insurance etc but when it comes down to it, i will burn the same amount of fuel running back and forward to work through traffic as i do in my petrol mk4. im not a diesel expert but both my girlfriend and cousin have said to me diesels are beneficial once you are out of traffic zones and on the open roads.
Sorry i nearly went into a life story there :lipsrsealed:
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I would love a mk5 GTI or even a R32, that would be a dream come true but as much as i could try and bargain my way to a cheaper deal i dont think i could afford it til i get a new job. On the other hand if anyone wants help robbing a bank count me in :wink:
Im not rushing into anything yet, i dont want to make an speedy decisions considering the market, hopefully after xmas they reduce the price and i can go mention the dent in the door to them as well as take my mechanic friend with me to help.
If anyone wants to check this car out here is the link...
http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/VOLKSWAGEN+GOLF/Ne-2-4-5-6-7-8-27-44-49-53-61-64-67-103-133-146-236,N-21-85-191-240-4294966995-4294967159/advert.action?R=200847323719777&distance=8&postcode=SW17+8LJ&channel=CARS&make=VOLKSWAGEN&model=GOLF&min_pr=6000&max_pr=7000&max_mileage=
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ive just noticed the price has been reduced by £200
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For a little bit more money id MUCH MUCH MUCH rather have this: http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/VOLKSWAGEN+GOLF/Ne-2-4-5-6-7-8-27-44-49-53-61-64-67-103-133-146-236,N-21-85-240-4294966995-4294967159/advert.action?R=200843321733129&distance=3&postcode=SW17+8LJ&channel=CARS&make=VOLKSWAGEN&model=GOLF&min_pr=6000&max_pr=7000&max_mileage=
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For a little bit more money id MUCH MUCH MUCH rather have this: http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/VOLKSWAGEN+GOLF/Ne-2-4-5-6-7-8-27-44-49-53-61-64-67-103-133-146-236,N-21-85-240-4294966995-4294967159/advert.action?R=200843321733129&distance=3&postcode=SW17+8LJ&channel=CARS&make=VOLKSWAGEN&model=GOLF&min_pr=6000&max_pr=7000&max_mileage=
good call :cool:
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oh i saw that already!! yeh i did think about it but im guessin the owner has probably ragged it senseless
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why?
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I think that anni was owned by a guy called paulo, who yes, would have ragged it senseless.
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coz if i had one id rag it senseless too.
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sounds perfect then!
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coz if i had one id rag it senseless too.
sounds about right for this place :grin:
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coz if i had one id rag it senseless too.
Oh dear . . . . Great theory there . . . . :rolleyes:
You got always get the shockingly dull and boring 2.0 GT FSI . . . . .
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coz if i had one id rag it senseless too.
....A slap around the head might knock some sense into you, mate! :smiley:
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Im still young, thats what the majority of us youngsters do... stupid stuff. But as i get older i dont feel the need to go round flooring it and driving like a nutter.
btw, why is the gt fsi boring? its pretty much the best thing ive seen in my budget, i cant afford anything more at the moment especially with xmas and january on its way, im going to be skint for a while. :cry:
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Im still young, thats what the majority of us youngsters do... stupid stuff. But as i get older i dont feel the need to go round flooring it and driving like a nutter.
....Assuming you survive long enough "driving like a nutter" to get older. Not all youngsters do "stupid stuff". Yes, I was young and crazy once upon a time - Until a close friend got killed because of driving like a nutter.
btw, why is the gt fsi boring? its pretty much the best thing ive seen in my budget, i cant afford anything more at the moment especially with xmas and january on its way, im going to be skint for a while. :cry:
....I was going to comment but I think I may be wasting my time.
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I dont know why i said that actually, i drive pretty sensibly tbh... Anyhows, this thread seems to be going off in another direction, thanks for everyones feedback, ill see how it goes and let you know what happens.