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Title: Plastic guide thing on lower part of gear stick
Post by: Deefadog on 06 June 2004, 21:17

I have not a clue what it's called. so I could not search for it :) But it's when you go to put the car into first and it slips into reverse (very scary at roundabouts) :)  

What is the best thing to do? is it that the plastic guide attached to the gear stick and the one on the side have worn?  or is it that the spring has lossend at the bottom so it does not push the gear stick up to it propper position?

What is the best to do, got to get this sorted, driving me mad! This must have happened to alot of people!

Thanks

Title: Re:Plastic guide thing on lower part of gear stick
Post by: Veedubgt18v on 06 June 2004, 21:28

the selector ball has broken you need to go into vw and ask for a gearshift repair ki

its this bit (numbered 23) that has gone

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Title: Re:Plastic guide thing on lower part of gear stick
Post by: Deefadog on 06 June 2004, 21:42

Cheers Veedubgti8v, does 23 include - 24,12, 26 & 11?  Have you arough idea of how much this is? and is it that it's lost it stiffness so to speak :)

And is this easy to fit? I mean a DIY job?

Thanks

Title: Re:Plastic guide thing on lower part of gear stick
Post by: Veedubgt18v on 06 June 2004, 21:45

they arent mega bucks but i think they are around 20 ish quid from vag.

you can do it diy its fiddley but not difficult took me and veedub16v about 2ish hours to do

let me see if i can find a link

its the ball shaped thing and the cup (26) thats gone they are only plastic and grooves/holes wear in them which drops the gear stick about 5 mm

Title: Re:Plastic guide thing on lower part of gear stick
Post by: Veedubgt18v on 06 June 2004, 21:53

here ya go!

http://www.oxfordshirevwoc.co.uk/gearstick_fix.htm

Title: Re:Plastic guide thing on lower part of gear stick
Post by: Deefadog on 06 June 2004, 23:06

Thankyou so much! I was going to drill out the rivets on the plastic side piece and re drill holes (5 mm up) and re-rivet it back on!

This looks like the rght way!

Thanks again

Title: Re:Plastic guide thing on lower part of gear stick
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 06 June 2004, 23:08

yeah you turned up just in time as i was puting the car back together ;D

there not critical bits so i suggest german and swedish and the kit is ?4-5.

its not a hard job, just fiddly as hell. its like a puzzle trying to get the old bits out and new bits in. and you have to take off the aluminium heat shield from round the exhaust

Title: Re:Plastic guide thing on lower part of gear stick
Post by: Deefadog on 07 June 2004, 08:44

Thanks mate, i'll order that today! Take care

Title: Re:Plastic guide thing on lower part of gear stick
Post by: Deefadog on 07 June 2004, 09:58

Just checkingThe guy at German & swedish told me the kit comprised of the ball and housing, that's it.

Is that all I need?

Thanks

Title: Re:Plastic guide thing on lower part of gear stick
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 07 June 2004, 11:15

there is 2 kits, the ball and housing, and loads of bushings for the gear linkages above gearbox. i got both but have only fitted the ball selector so far. im gonna get the weighted shift rod before i do the linkages

from what i can tell all the ball and housing does is solve the problem of first/reverse

Title: Re:Plastic guide thing on lower part of gear stick
Post by: Deefadog on 07 June 2004, 12:39

Just ordered the kit from VW dealer! ?12 the kit comes with all the pins nuts etc where as German & Swedish was ?5 and only came with the ball and housing!

Title: Re:Plastic guide thing on lower part of gear stick
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 07 June 2004, 13:33

all you really need is the housing, cos thats where the damage will be, but you might as well have fresh everything :D

Title: Re:Plastic guide thing on lower part of gear stick
Post by: Deefadog on 07 June 2004, 22:52

Yeah may aswell :)  How much grease did you put in, as much as possible?

Title: Re:Plastic guide thing on lower part of gear stick
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 08 June 2004, 01:06

yer just a thick coat round the housing ;)

Title: Re:Plastic guide thing on lower part of gear stick
Post by: Deefadog on 12 June 2004, 15:27

Job done :) Took me and my mate 2 hours :  I can't feel my hand (for pushing the ball up to get the pin out) and my back is in bits but worth it! She slips into gear like a 50 year old prostitute :)

Only problem I had was getting that damn pin out, use mole grips and battered it with a small hammer!

Thanks for the help on this guyz

take care

Title: Re:Plastic guide thing on lower part of gear stick
Post by: Deefadog on 14 June 2004, 12:43

Update! after driving properly today, I noticed that getting in to first is a bit stiff, I have to really push the gear stick left and up, the natural action (what I would like) when push left and up goes into third, seems really close? is this normal after this replacement? Is there anything I can do to sort this?

Cheers again

Title: Re:Plastic guide thing on lower part of gear stick
Post by: rubjonny on 14 June 2004, 15:12

It sounds like a previous owner tried to adjust the linkage to make up for the worn gearstick housing, best bet is to reset it.  Don't ask me how though, but I've seen a fair few posts on here telling you how to do it :)  Mines the oposite its a b!tch to get into fith but I'm too goddamn lazy to fix it, probably because I hardly ever do any motorway driving!

Title: Re:Plastic guide thing on lower part of gear stick
Post by: Deefadog on 15 June 2004, 08:14

Thanks for the info mate, I can't find any threads on linkages though :) I'll keep looking!

Need about 2mm left and I will be happy :)

Take care

Title: Re:Plastic guide thing on lower part of gear stick
Post by: rubjonny on 26 July 2004, 08:26

Right, I found a post on here (dunno where sorry  ::)) that gives this method:

1) Remove the knob, gaitor and plastic surround
2) Put something 10mm wide between the stick and the left side of the housing and hold it there with an elastic band or summat
3) In the engine bay loosen the clamp bolt on the end of the gear lever
4) Centre the linkage in the engine bay and retighten the bolt

This should get you close, you might have to fiddle with it a bit to get it just right.  I wish I knew about the 10mm trick when I did it, I just had to keep frigging with it untill it was ok, first is still a little stiff, but I think its supposed to be (to stop you changing into 1st unless you have stopped)

Title: Re:Plastic guide thing on lower part of gear stick
Post by: Deefadog on 26 July 2004, 12:35

I got ot sorted in the end, I replaced all the bushes etc, got my garage to do it,  only cost ?30 labour and it is great now!

Thanks for the info though.

take care