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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: Golfgirl on 22 November 2008, 18:55
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Finally got round to getting my car remapped today by Jon at VAGtech.
All I can say really is WOW. It has competely transformed the car and it is soooo quick now. There is a power surge around 3,000rpm and it pulls really well in every gear. Particularly noticeable was the torque in 6th gear even at 80mph on the motorway. Overtaking is even more effortless than it was before and I even pulled away (in 6th gear) from a Scooby that was trying to overtake me this afternoon ( he was a bit surprised I think!).
On the local "bridge test" I got 110 (kph :smug:) compared with 100kph as a standard car and 95kph in my old modified Mk 4 R32.
The power delivery is not as smooth as it was before the remap as it has quite an aggressive surge of power at 3,000rpm. However, it is just as easy to pootle along with a smoother, more gradual acceleration but you can just feel that the car wants to go. I could feel that even before I got to the end of the driveway at VAGtech when I went out on the road test with Jon.
Hooked up to VAG-COM we did a MAF test which showed 226g/sec which divided by 0.8 equals 282bhp. We did the same test on the car in standard form the other night and got 190g/sec which equals 237.5bhp. The same test in my R32 proved to be fairly accurate compared to my RR results. The torque shown on VAG-COM was 390Nm which is 287 lb/ft. I know these figures aren't precisely accurate but it's a good before & after comparison.
The only bad thing about it is that the brakes feel really inadequate now for the amount of power. I know that several people with Ed30s have commented on how poor they think the brakes are but I thought they were fine on the standard car. Now though I'm not so sure.
I was going to go for a full Milltek and REVO Stage 2 but my other half has been made redundant recently so I couldn't justify the expense until things settle down on the job front.
Many thanks to Jon and the lads at VAGtech today for putting the map on the car :cool:
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glad you're happy ;)
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i am glad you are happy with it and they do pull well in 6th dont they :wink:
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Are you still running on 97-RON?
Anyway glad to hear it went well. How much did it cost?
I'm toying with the idea of Revo 2 for sometime next year, when it's insurance renewal time. Hate having to downshift or wait ages for acceleration on the motorway.
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Another happy Revo customer I see then.. :wink: Glad to hear it and it's good isn't it..? :wink:
Would of thought you'll be looking at more than 286bhp though :huh:, especially when the map has settled. What settings have you gone with?
Hope your fella gets sorted with a job soon, so you can feel the full potential of Stage 2 with the Milltek.. :smiley:
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Are you still running on 97-RON?
Anyway glad to hear it went well. How much did it cost?
I'm toying with the idea of Revo 2 for sometime next year, when it's insurance renewal time. Hate having to downshift or wait ages for acceleration on the motorway.
have you got stage one at the mo then?
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Another happy Revo customer I see then.. :wink: Glad to hear it and it's good isn't it..? :wink:
Would of thought you'll be looking at more than 286bhp though :huh:, especially when the map has settled. What settings have you gone with?
Hope your fella gets sorted with a job soon, so you can feel the full potential of Stage 2 with the Milltek.. :smiley:
Yeh, so far so good! Had an 80 ish mile trip home plus a bit of a detour so hopefully it will have learnt the map by now? I'm not convinced that it's going to be much, if anything, over 280bhp though going on previous RR results at JKM.
Settings are 9, 7 and 4 (I think!) but I can't remember which was which :grin: I haven't got the Select switch either.
I'm hoping he gets a job soon too, although he's in the motor trade which has been affected really badly recently and he's struggling to find something!
Are you still running on 97-RON?
No, Tesco 99 RON has been available around here for a couple of weeks now so I'm trying that and have had about 3 tankfuls so far. Did put £21.00 worth of BP Ultimate in today though as I didn't have enough to get there and back.
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have you got stage one at the mo then?
Stock. I'm toying with the idea of just going to Stage 2 in one go rather than doing stage 1, save and wait for a bit and then go to Stage 2. I swear, every time I save some money, I suddenly have the urge to spend it straight away. :rolleyes:
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I swear, every time I save some money, I suddenly have the urge to spend it straight away. :rolleyes:
Give it to me and I'll keep it safe... :wink:
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Nah mate, it's alright. I'm sticking it all into another account that I can never remember the PIN for so I won't be tempted.
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have you got stage one at the mo then?
Stock. I'm toying with the idea of just going to Stage 2 in one go rather than doing stage 1, save and wait for a bit and then go to Stage 2. I swear, every time I save some money, I suddenly have the urge to spend it straight away. :rolleyes:
better get a milltek first then as correct me if im wrong but stage 2 is beneficial if you have TBE.
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9 7 and 4 eh?
Probably boost 7, timing 4 and fuel 9 :smiley:
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I know what you mean about SURGE after 3000rpm!
I have oettinger remap 305/410Nm on paper. After 3000rpm, especially in 5th, 6th gears (because they are not as frantic as the other four) it feels like airplane accelerating along runway. :laugh:
Now have problems with my car, does not feel 305hp anymore after the accident, repair, and remap. TOmorrow go to Oettinger again!
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better get a milltek first then as correct me if im wrong but stage 2 is beneficial if you have TBE.
clicky (http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/jkmtfsi-K4-stage2.htm)
AFAIK TBE included
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Yup, for stage 2 you should already have a TBE installed.
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I am the only only one here who doesn't think you need to change your exhaust, the maps plenty fine, plus i have the added bonus that my stock zorst sounds good, a few folk have commented that it sounds the biz. £1.1k for tbe to get extra 10bhp..........nah! :lipsrsealed:
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9 7 and 4 eh?
Probably boost 7, timing 4 and fuel 9 :smiley:
I think Golfgirl is mistaken unless she uses regular petrol (95 RON) for timing to be 4.
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I am the only only one here who doesn't think you need to change your exhaust, the maps plenty fine, plus i have the added bonus that my stock zorst sounds good, a few folk have commented that it sounds the biz. £1.1k for tbe to get extra 10bhp..........nah! :lipsrsealed:
Doesnt need to be a Milltek though Keith - there is that place the lad with the K1 had his 3" front to back system done for £800 and he has the pattern up to the back box now including the downpipe, so subsequent ones will be less.
I also dont think the exhausts are worth what they cost, but I do defo think they are a worthwhile modification - You know what they sound like and it is miles better than stock. Spool and top en power is much better with an exhaust too :smiley:
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I am the only only one here who doesn't think you need to change your exhaust, the maps plenty fine, plus i have the added bonus that my stock zorst sounds good, a few folk have commented that it sounds the biz. £1.1k for tbe to get extra 10bhp..........nah! :lipsrsealed:
What hp are you getting now on race file on a stock exhaust?
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I am the only only one here who doesn't think you need to change your exhaust, the maps plenty fine, plus i have the added bonus that my stock zorst sounds good, a few folk have commented that it sounds the biz. £1.1k for tbe to get extra 10bhp..........nah! :lipsrsealed:
....How many miles have you been running your performance mods, especially the remap, on a stock exhaust?
Have you ever considered what hotter exhaust temperatures might be doing to your cats?
[burning the buggers is much more effective than trying to stuff them down the hoover!]
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better get a milltek first then as correct me if im wrong but stage 2 is beneficial if you have TBE.
clicky (http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/jkmtfsi-K4-stage2.htm)
AFAIK TBE included
thats 3000 mind + you already have to have stage 1.
The JKM K04 stage 2 package essentially builds on our K04 1.2 package. Additions include a large bore high flow Turbo Downpipe and Catalytic converter, TFSI fuel pump upgrade and an upgraded Intercooler system (Various options).
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Package contains
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2) Complete Turbo Back Milltek Exhaust system
Please note that due to a number of variations on tailpipe design in some cases, An exhaust with direct fitment to an OEM rear Valance along with Resonated (Quieter type) silencers has been selected for pricing below. Other options are available on this package - Please contact JKM for a tailored exhaust quotation if you require a different option....
Thought it already included it. Either way, it'll all get done in one go.
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Package contains
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2) Complete Turbo Back Milltek Exhaust system
Please note that due to a number of variations on tailpipe design in some cases, An exhaust with direct fitment to an OEM rear Valance along with Resonated (Quieter type) silencers has been selected for pricing below. Other options are available on this package - Please contact JKM for a tailored exhaust quotation if you require a different option....
Thought it already included it. Either way, it'll all get done in one go.
I went with JKM for the whole lot - very please with the results. No early peaks of power at 3000rpm, just a smooth stock like delivery of power until it gets manic at the higher rev range :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: and that was only Revo Stage 1 :kiss: :drool: :drool: Revo Stage 2 with the bolt-on mods I have turns the car into a monster - I can feel the brake pedal trembling when moving in slow moving traffic - it just wants to go :evil: :evil: :evil:
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I am the only only one here who doesn't think you need to change your exhaust, the maps plenty fine, plus i have the added bonus that my stock zorst sounds good, a few folk have commented that it sounds the biz. £1.1k for tbe to get extra 10bhp..........nah! :lipsrsealed:
What hp are you getting now on race file on a stock exhaust?
at awesomes day out it was 305, but the intercooler and dbilas are on now so its anyones guess.
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I am the only only one here who doesn't think you need to change your exhaust, the maps plenty fine, plus i have the added bonus that my stock zorst sounds good, a few folk have commented that it sounds the biz. £1.1k for tbe to get extra 10bhp..........nah! :lipsrsealed:
....How many miles have you been running your performance mods, especially the remap, on a stock exhaust?
Have you ever considered what hotter exhaust temperatures might be doing to your cats?
[burning the buggers is much more effective than trying to stuff them down the hoover!]
think its 10k i have done since i started moddin it. recent service showed no issues and car is reg vag-com / vcds.
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I am the only only one here who doesn't think you need to change your exhaust, the maps plenty fine, plus i have the added bonus that my stock zorst sounds good, a few folk have commented that it sounds the biz. £1.1k for tbe to get extra 10bhp..........nah! :lipsrsealed:
....How many miles have you been running your performance mods, especially the remap, on a stock exhaust?
Have you ever considered what hotter exhaust temperatures might be doing to your cats?
[burning the buggers is much more effective than trying to stuff them down the hoover!]
think its 10k i have done since i started moddin it. recent service showed no issues and car is reg vag-com / vcds.
....Good practice to keep a regular eye on it via VCDS.
Bang your hand on the cat box occasionally too to check for rattles as a sign of deterioration.
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waydaygo Claire! :grin:
Bummer about other half being made redundant. Saw gary at Donny Park, but didn't get a chance to say hello and have usual chat!
The CGTI bunch had end of year track day today. You should have come along in your car, although the track was covered in oil after an Evo blue off his oil filter and then drove round on the racing line!
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9 7 and 4 eh?
Probably boost 7, timing 4 and fuel 9 :smiley:
Sounds like that's what it is.. T4 is very low though considering it's run on Super (T99).. :huh:
Oh and Golfgirl, there wasn't any Revo'd ED30's run @ the JKM RR day was there? :huh:
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Those settinmg might be completely wrong, I honestly can't remember them.
And no, as far as I can remember there were no Edition 30's with Stage 1 REVO at JKM but I am basing my guesstimate on power on what other remaps achieved with no other mods.
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Stock. I'm toying with the idea of just going to Stage 2 in one go rather than doing stage 1, save and wait for a bit and then go to Stage 2. I swear, every time I save some money, I suddenly have the urge to spend it straight away. :rolleyes:
Why wait, stage II is only £50 plus VAT upgrade on stage I if you use REVO. Even if you go straight to stage II you still pay stage I plus the upgrade so overall it's the same price.
May as well have some fun while you save. :evil:
Golf Girl, if you are buying a Select Plus then it's only £99 plus VAT if you buy within 28 days of the remap which is a bargain.
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Why wait, stage II is only £50 plus VAT upgrade on stage I if you use REVO. Even if you go straight to stage II you still pay stage I plus the upgrade so overall it's the same price.
But I want: Complete Milltek TBE + (Forge) Intake + APR fuel pump + (Forge) Intercooler + Forge DV + REVO 2 Map all in one go.