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Title: mk5 R32 pictures in today's AutoExpress
Post by: jv on 03 June 2004, 13:15
(http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/picture_library/dir_30/car_portal_pic_15019.jpg?8972)

Reckons 255bhp, possible debut at the Frankfurt motor show in Sept '05 and UK sales early '06. Lots of guess work in the article but good to see even if they are only 'concept' pictures :)
Title: Re:mk5 R32 pictures in today's AutoExpress
Post by: marcus123 on 03 June 2004, 13:32
cheers for that jv,

im not to sure in the styling of the mk5 tho.

i dont think it looks as nice as a mk4 r32.

what do yall think?
Title: Re:mk5 R32 pictures in today's AutoExpress
Post by: gibby on 03 June 2004, 13:36
Hmmm, not sure myself, prefer to make a real judgement when I see one in the flesh, is it me or are modern cars all looking the same these days ? I did like the mk5 at first but I'm still a bit undecided after seeing a few around. Maybe I just like mk1s too much  :D
Title: Re:mk5 R32 pictures in today's AutoExpress
Post by: tobz. on 03 June 2004, 13:55
I was flicking through some old copies of the golf yesterday and they had some pics of the mk5 gti in last decembers issue, glad to see they have colour coded the side skirts and bottom section of the front bumper now.
I think they knocked the nail on the head in terms of its styling overall a bit peugeot 207, quite honda civic from the front and very alfa romeo from the side. Not too sure about it just yet, all looks a bit too generic these days.
Title: Re:mk5 R32 pictures in today's AutoExpress
Post by: Mixologist on 03 June 2004, 14:34
Im not to sure, still undecided about the mk5 all together, have to see this one on the flesh  first!

Hasnt quite got the look of the mk4 r32, it doesnt say, "im gonna shoot past ya before you realise it"
Title: Re:mk5 R32 pictures in today's AutoExpress
Post by: JMallows on 03 June 2004, 14:44
Don't like it all i'm afraid. However, i don't really lik anything newer than MK2 so....

I wa chatting to an ownr last night in the car park, he said its a better car than the mark 3 by a long way, but he's not sure about the mark 2 as he's not owned one. So far the only thing he said he felt was sub standard was the boot catch, which i have to agree with, it does feel a bit cheap.
Title: Re:mk5 R32 pictures in today's AutoExpress
Post by: Martz on 03 June 2004, 15:01
I am one of those people thats anti modern (although I did enjoy my A3 when I had her). I just like the classic good looks of the MK2 and the handling it provides (sure she could do with more power, but she is 14 years old now). I had the A3 and the Golf for about 4 months, using both on a regular basis. I had to lose one and it suprised my other half how easily I chose which one to let go.

As for the MK5 Golf - 10 a penny. You see one, you see em all. Pugs, Audi, VW, Toyota, Ford - all the same these days, there is no clear definition on a car.

(apart from the City Golf in South Africa which is a MK1 with a 1.8T engine as standard for around ?8k or so :o)
Title: Re:mk5 R32 pictures in today's AutoExpress
Post by: jte on 03 June 2004, 15:33
I agree, although mk2s look dated because of evolution they are probably the last distinctive golf.  I drive and like a mk3 but in terms of looks it certainly is a bit puddingy and much less well defined than the earlier golfs.

I think VW had a great opportunity with the MK5 in terms of brand, funding, reputation etc to produce a really great car, going someway back to the qualities of the mk1 but obviously in a 21 century package,  however unfortunately they decided to play very safe and have produced a very average car that sits alongside vauxhalls, peugeots, toyotas etc in a bland bunch of dullness.

It's quite painfull to say but the only really innovative forward thinking cars in the recent past have been the Ford Focus, Toyota Yaris, Fiat Multipla and a few others.

Which is a shame because VW could have produced a superb Golf if they had the guts.

Title: Re:mk5 R32 pictures in today's AutoExpress
Post by: tobz. on 03 June 2004, 15:39
"It's quite painfull to say but the only really innovative forward thinking cars in the recent past have been the Ford Focus, Toyota Yaris, Fiat Multipla and a few others."

No major suprise then that VW spent loads of money developing a new multilink rear suspension for the mk5 which could have come straight from the ford focus.
Title: Re:mk5 R32 pictures in today's AutoExpress
Post by: Dizzie on 03 June 2004, 15:54
"the fastest ever golf"

ahem

"the fastest ever golf VW made in the factory" ;D
Title: Re:mk5 R32 pictures in today's AutoExpress
Post by: marcus123 on 03 June 2004, 16:09
I am one of those people thats anti modern (although I did enjoy my A3 when I had her). I just like the classic good looks of the MK2 and the handling it provides (sure she could do with more power, but she is 14 years old now). I had the A3 and the Golf for about 4 months, using both on a regular basis. I had to lose one and it suprised my other half how easily I chose which one to let go.

As for the MK5 Golf - 10 a penny. You see one, you see em all. Pugs, Audi, VW, Toyota, Ford - all the same these days, there is no clear definition on a car.

(apart from the City Golf in South Africa which is a MK1 with a 1.8T engine as standard for around ?8k or so :o)

i agree with you so much dude, classic good looks for the mk2, great handling as well.

you could hardly ever call the mk5 classic, it looks like a fookin pug 307! :D
Title: Re:mk5 R32 pictures in today's AutoExpress
Post by: Dizzie on 03 June 2004, 17:20
the advantage with the mk5 is it doesn't do a "dog and fire hydrant" trick when cornering fast on a track ;D
Title: Re:mk5 R32 pictures in today's AutoExpress
Post by: jv on 03 June 2004, 21:22
you've lost me there dizzie but I think with time the mk5 will be a quality dub. From the details so far about the mk5 GTI it seems they are well back on track with building a proper drivers car. you have to accept that the whole market place has evolved since the mk1. if you want a small, fun performance vw then a lupo GTI is almost identical dimensions and performance to the original mk1 GTI. VW are 'stuck' with the infamous, in this country at least, Golf GTI name..... doesn't necessarliy fit in with producing an above average family car, which after all is the market the Golf is aimed at

too much to drink, come all wordy  ::)
Title: Re:mk5 R32 pictures in today's AutoExpress
Post by: Mixologist on 03 June 2004, 21:35
i agree, in time the mk5 will be respected like the rest of the golfs, and as jv said, the golf is now aimed as being a family hatchback, not the hothatch of the mk1 and mk2.  And they dominate the Family hatchback market with some sucess!!

But looking at the r32, i think they still know how to make a car that rips the tarmac up with ease. ;D ;D
Title: Re:mk5 R32 pictures in today's AutoExpress
Post by: topher on 03 June 2004, 22:42
I quite like it but whats with vw and that blue these days ?

Hopefully it'll knock down mk4 R32 second hand prices next year too  ;D  ;D
Title: Re:mk5 R32 pictures in today's AutoExpress
Post by: marcus123 on 03 June 2004, 23:28
it'll be 2006 untill it nocks down prices.

i think that the new gti does look pretty cool, sounds cool too.

i know with new cars evolving looks need to change, but the mk5's that you see plodding on the roads nowadays look so sorry :-[

they look sh!t :P

roll on the gti to bring some kind of dignity back :D