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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: pridders on 14 November 2008, 11:55

Title: Turbo Back Milltek
Post by: pridders on 14 November 2008, 11:55
Hi All,

Ok I have had Revo Stage 1 for the last few months and absoultly love it, cant get enough of it!

Now the question is do I go for the Milltek Turbo Back? I think I can get a good deal in the current climate but is it really going to make a difference to the preformance? Is it worth spending around £800? Has anyone gone from Revo Stage 1 to a turbo back system? Is it worth it?

Title: Re: Turbo Back Milltek
Post by: RedRobin on 14 November 2008, 12:10
....

I had the Milltek TBE (Hi-flow Sports Cat + Downpipe) from the very start. At about 23,000 miles I went from stock to Revo Stage1 and more recently to Stage2.

The Revo1 unlocks the benefits of what is a performance exhaust, but Revo2 does so even more (so I believe).

Your performance will also benefit from a better air filter.

Beware!! Modding is a very slippery slope!!
Title: Re: Turbo Back Milltek
Post by: neg on 14 November 2008, 12:37
Full system should let the turbo breathe better so giving you the extra legs at top end of the rev range.
Title: Re: Turbo Back Milltek
Post by: gazbutmk5gti on 14 November 2008, 13:05
I think the TBE makes a big difference in the region of 15bhp in my experience, on my last 3 cars :smiley:
Title: Re: Turbo Back Milltek
Post by: WhiteGTI on 14 November 2008, 13:18
£800 sounds like a great deal!

No question....DO IT!!! :)

Throttle response will be improved, the car will die out less in the high revs, and a soundtrack worthy of symphonies!


Title: Re: Turbo Back Milltek
Post by: Greenouse on 14 November 2008, 13:48
I'll divide this answer into three different stages:

1. YES

2. YES

3. YES

:afro:
Title: Re: Turbo Back Milltek
Post by: RobGTI on 14 November 2008, 13:56
I've got a resonated cat back at the moment, and thinking of going for the turbo cat to go with it. Does adding the rest of the system make any difference to the noise at all. Anyone done it in stages?
Title: Re: Turbo Back Milltek
Post by: illyun on 14 November 2008, 14:11
....



Beware!! Modding is a very slippery slope!!

Agreed... no mods on my car for a year and then go the following this morning...

Stage 1 Revo with Select Plus Switch
Forge DV

Now I am seriously hooked.....


Booked for next Wednesday @ JKM
Milltek Resonated Cat Back with Hi-Sports Sports Cat with Downpipe
Neuspeed Torque Arm (comes with the above)
Carbonio Intake
Pipercross Air Filter (comes with the above) although I am looking at the ITG Filters
Whiteline Anti Lift Kit
Stage 2 Revo - got Stage 1 and might as well upgrade to Stage for £49 plus VAT :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
Koni FSD Shocks and Eibach Springs


well I haven't told them about the last 2 items but a phone call this afternoon should sort that out  :grin: :grin: :grin:

Items in the pipeline over the next 12 months...

19" BBS LMs - purchased but not currently on the car
18" BBS CH black with red outline purchased but not currently on the car

Uprated brakes
Carbon Fibre - Badges, Bonnet, Wings, Rear Hatch, Side Mirrors, Front Grill
LED Rear lights
Rear Camera
Quaife LSD

I think that will do for now  :shocked:
Title: Re: Turbo Back Milltek
Post by: T88OMM on 14 November 2008, 14:42
Good stuff Illyun. Looking forward to seeing the LM's on your car. They will look  :tongue:
Title: Re: Turbo Back Milltek
Post by: Komenda on 14 November 2008, 14:57

You're not mucking about  :grin: :grin: . Don't go to far though or it'll end up looking like this

(http://www.motoraddicts.com/imgfilestore/00/00/81/70/00047785_med.jpg)
Title: Re: Turbo Back Milltek
Post by: illyun on 14 November 2008, 15:02

You're not mucking about  :grin: :grin: . Don't go to far though or it'll end up looking like this

(http://www.motoraddicts.com/imgfilestore/00/00/81/70/00047785_med.jpg)


Why did you have to spoil the surprise?   :angry:  That is exactly the kind of look I am going for  :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Turbo Back Milltek
Post by: Hurdy on 14 November 2008, 15:04
F**kin 'ell Illyun :cool:

That's going some :smiley:

A few suggestions too:-

1. H&R springs instead of Eibach springs (I think Neil has these and they sit perfect)
2. High pressure fuel pump
3. Intercooler (S3, APR, Forge etc)
4. Sell me those LM's :wink:

Title: Re: Turbo Back Milltek
Post by: illyun on 14 November 2008, 15:13
F**kin 'ell Illyun :cool:

That's going some :smiley:

A few suggestions too:-

1. H&R springs instead of Eibach springs (I think Neil has these and they sit perfect)
2. High pressure fuel pump
3. Intercooler (S3, APR, Forge etc)
4. Sell me those LM's :wink:



Well my Ed30's waited too long watching your cars get treated and pampered while mines being sitting on the motorway doing donkey work.  Its seriously peeeved and wants to play catch up NOW  :grin:  Oh, I forgot about the intercooler.  Thats on the list too.  I spoke to Keith about the fuel pump and he said it wasn't needed with stage 1 although where I'm going with the mods, I probably will need an uprated one.  I just won those LMs today on ebay for £1270 although they aren't 100% perfect and will be refurbed at some point. 

So you think the H&R springs are better?  I thought the Koni FSD/Eibach combo was the best available?
Title: Re: Turbo Back Milltek
Post by: topher on 14 November 2008, 15:17
If you're seriously considering shifting the weight distribution around by fitting CF panels, I reckon you'll be needing the kind of adjustment you'll only get with coilovers.. especially if you're having some hurdy-style meaty brakes!
Title: Re: Turbo Back Milltek
Post by: illyun on 14 November 2008, 15:21
If you're seriously considering shifting the weight distribution around by fitting CF panels, I reckon you'll be needing the kind of adjustment you'll only get with coilovers.. especially if you're having some hurdy-style meaty brakes!

Really... hmmm. OK.  Will speak to JKM about this thanks.  But now you have got me thinking... I don't want to negatively affect the car handling by adding CF panels.  Maybe i'll drop the rear hatch CF - Hurdy, any ideas?
Title: Re: Turbo Back Milltek
Post by: RedRobin on 14 November 2008, 16:16
....

Illyun - I would strongly advise you take Keith and Jim's advice at JKM rather than us lot here!

Don't go rushing in - Better to consider your longer term desires and how your car ends up as a driveable package.
Title: Re: Turbo Back Milltek
Post by: Komenda on 14 November 2008, 16:18
F**kin 'ell Illyun :cool:

That's going some :smiley:

A few suggestions too:-

1. H&R springs instead of Eibach springs (I think Neil has these and they sit perfect)
2. High pressure fuel pump
3. Intercooler (S3, APR, Forge etc)
4. Sell me those LM's :wink:



Well my Ed30's waited too long watching your cars get treated and pampered while mines being sitting on the motorway doing donkey work.  Its seriously peeeved and wants to play catch up NOW  :grin:  Oh, I forgot about the intercooler.  Thats on the list too.  I spoke to Keith about the fuel pump and he said it wasn't needed with stage 1 although where I'm going with the mods, I probably will need an uprated one.  I just won those LMs today on ebay for £1270 although they aren't 100% perfect and will be refurbed at some point. 

So you think the H&R springs are better?  I thought the Koni FSD/Eibach combo was the best available?

Are they real LM's mate, if so you may have a problem as the offset won't fit a Mk5
Title: Re: Turbo Back Milltek
Post by: illyun on 14 November 2008, 16:33
F**kin 'ell Illyun :cool:

That's going some :smiley:

A few suggestions too:-

1. H&R springs instead of Eibach springs (I think Neil has these and they sit perfect)
2. High pressure fuel pump
3. Intercooler (S3, APR, Forge etc)
4. Sell me those LM's :wink:



Well my Ed30's waited too long watching your cars get treated and pampered while mines being sitting on the motorway doing donkey work.  Its seriously peeeved and wants to play catch up NOW  :grin:  Oh, I forgot about the intercooler.  Thats on the list too.  I spoke to Keith about the fuel pump and he said it wasn't needed with stage 1 although where I'm going with the mods, I probably will need an uprated one.  I just won those LMs today on ebay for £1270 although they aren't 100% perfect and will be refurbed at some point. 

So you think the H&R springs are better?  I thought the Koni FSD/Eibach combo was the best available?

Are they real LM's mate, if so you may have a problem as the offset won't fit a Mk5

I know - I have heard you need spacers.  Hence they may just go on for shows.  Are yours originals and if so what did you do to get them on?
Title: Re: Turbo Back Milltek
Post by: Komenda on 14 November 2008, 16:37

Nah, mine are fakeys. ET45 so they fill the arches nicely. Originals are ET55 IIRC so basically sqaush up against the struts.
Title: Re: Turbo Back Milltek
Post by: Hurdy on 14 November 2008, 17:01
If you're seriously considering shifting the weight distribution around by fitting CF panels, I reckon you'll be needing the kind of adjustment you'll only get with coilovers.. especially if you're having some hurdy-style meaty brakes!

Really... hmmm. OK.  Will speak to JKM about this thanks.  But now you have got me thinking... I don't want to negatively affect the car handling by adding CF panels.  Maybe i'll drop the rear hatch CF - Hurdy, any ideas?

The anti-lift kit should help with restraining the balance of the car if you lighten the front end. A big brake kit, CF wings(wings or wing mirrors Illyun?) and bonnet would see the front end lighter by around 20kg or so and so wouldn't alter the balance by too much IMHO.
Title: Re: Turbo Back Milltek
Post by: illyun on 14 November 2008, 17:14
If you're seriously considering shifting the weight distribution around by fitting CF panels, I reckon you'll be needing the kind of adjustment you'll only get with coilovers.. especially if you're having some hurdy-style meaty brakes!

Really... hmmm. OK.  Will speak to JKM about this thanks.  But now you have got me thinking... I don't want to negatively affect the car handling by adding CF panels.  Maybe i'll drop the rear hatch CF - Hurdy, any ideas?

The anti-lift kit should help with restraining the balance of the car if you lighten the front end. A big brake kit, CF wings(wings or wing mirrors Illyun?) and bonnet would see the front end lighter by around 20kg or so and so wouldn't alter the balance by too much IMHO.

Thanks for that... I'll just do the bonnet, wing mirrors and grill then.  :evil:
Title: Re: Turbo Back Milltek
Post by: illyun on 14 November 2008, 17:19

Nah, mine are fakeys. ET45 so they fill the arches nicely. Originals are ET55 IIRC so basically sqaush up against the struts.

The ebay auction lists the ET as 25?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=290272737774
Title: Re: Turbo Back Milltek
Post by: MAT ed30 on 14 November 2008, 18:42
i dont think they will fit i am sure stud pattern is not the same but could be wrong  :undecided:
Title: Re: Turbo Back Milltek
Post by: topher on 14 November 2008, 19:32
yeah those are mk4 fitment, which would need atleast a 20mm adaptor leaving you with an ET of 5mm.. which will put the wheels a smidge over an inch outside the wheel arches
Title: Re: Turbo Back Milltek
Post by: MAT ed30 on 14 November 2008, 19:46
yeah those are mk4 fitment, which would need atleast a 20mm adaptor leaving you with an ET of 5mm.. which will put the wheels a smidge over an inch outside the wheel arches

i thought so  :cry: someone pm him and tell him before he blows his money :cry:
Title: Re: Turbo Back Milltek
Post by: RedRobin on 14 November 2008, 20:45
^^^^

I've just phoned Illyun and let him know what's been posted :afro:
Title: Re: Turbo Back Milltek
Post by: Top Cat on 14 November 2008, 23:01
They can be made to fit just did a bit of research and these are genuine.  :smiley:

(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm104/tomashandmilly/golf5.jpg)
Title: Re: Turbo Back Milltek
Post by: topher on 14 November 2008, 23:07
those are most likely 5x112 and et 32 to start with though
Title: Re: Turbo Back Milltek
Post by: gazbutmk5gti on 14 November 2008, 23:27
like topher is saying the ebay ones are 5X100 pcd to start, so you adapters will be needed :sad:
Title: Re: Turbo Back Milltek
Post by: illyun on 15 November 2008, 00:23
Thanks guys  :embarassed:  Quite touched that RR called to warn me  :smiley:  They'ill have to be put back on the bay...  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Turbo Back Milltek
Post by: MAT ed30 on 15 November 2008, 08:08
no probs
Title: Re: Turbo Back Milltek
Post by: illyun on 15 November 2008, 09:36

4. Sell me those LM's :wink:



Still interested?  :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Turbo Back Milltek
Post by: Hurdy on 15 November 2008, 20:08

4. Sell me those LM's :wink:



Still interested?  :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

No! :grin:

I have something quite interesting on order :rolleyes: :wink:
Title: Re: Turbo Back Milltek
Post by: Saint Steve on 15 November 2008, 20:13

4. Sell me those LM's :wink:



Still interested?  :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

No! :grin:

I have something quite interesting on order :rolleyes: :wink:

"oh nooooooooooooooooo" ...... Says Hurdys Wallet
Title: Re: Turbo Back Milltek
Post by: Greenouse on 15 November 2008, 20:16

4. Sell me those LM's :wink:



Still interested?  :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

No! :grin:

I have something quite interesting on order :rolleyes: :wink:

About time too  :wink:

Any clues?  :huh:
Title: Re: Turbo Back Milltek
Post by: illyun on 15 November 2008, 20:25

4. Sell me those LM's :wink:



Still interested?  :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

No! :grin:

I have something quite interesting on order :rolleyes: :wink:

"oh nooooooooooooooooo" ...... Says Hurdys Wallet

Thats exactly what I thought  :grin: :grin: :grin:    Mind you, mines taken a battering over the past week and another massive hits on the way on Wednesday - 18 months worth of modding in less than a week  :shocked: :shocked:
Title: Re: Turbo Back Milltek
Post by: Hurdy on 15 November 2008, 20:26
Thinks to self....

*Do I wait till Monday?.....or do I give the game away now?....or do I wait until the meet on the 29th and turn up with them on?*

One clue....They aren't 5 spokes, or any I've thought about getting in the past :wink:

I'll start another thread for this and apologise for the thread hijack :grin:

Turbo back Milltek FTW :smiley:
Title: Re: Turbo Back Milltek
Post by: Greenouse on 15 November 2008, 20:28
Thinks to self....

*Do I wait till Monday?.....or do I give the game away now?....or do I wait until the meet on the 29th and turn up with them on?*

One clue....They aren't 5 spokes, or any I've thought about getting in the past :wink:

I'll start another thread for this and apologise for the thread hijack :grin:

Turbo back Milltek FTW :smiley:

:afro:
Title: Re: Turbo Back Milltek
Post by: Pirelli_P on 16 November 2008, 12:06
illyun, you're going to town with all that stuff, i like your thoughts!

Credit crunch, what credit crunch!
Title: Re: Turbo Back Milltek
Post by: illyun on 16 November 2008, 13:58
illyun, you're going to town with all that stuff, i like your thoughts!

Credit crunch, what credit crunch!

I'm not relying on credit  :wink:    I've been dithering on it for a while and something just snapped last week and I thought, sod it I'll do everything now as its going to come on sooner or later.... I want it sooner  :evil: :evil: :evil:  I only intended a remap and DV but then... as Robin says, its a slippery slope - but its more like I've fallen of a cliff in my case  :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Turbo Back Milltek
Post by: Hurdy on 16 November 2008, 17:16


I've been dithering on it for a while and something just snapped last week and I thought, sod it I'll do everything now as its going to come on sooner or later.... I want it sooner  :evil: :evil: :evil:  I only intended a remap and DV but then... as Robin says, its a slippery slope - but its more like I've fallen of a cliff in my case  :laugh: :laugh:

It's called HURDY GOADING :rolleyes: :grin: :wink:
Title: Re: Turbo Back Milltek
Post by: illyun on 16 November 2008, 18:54


I've been dithering on it for a while and something just snapped last week and I thought, sod it I'll do everything now as its going to come on sooner or later.... I want it sooner  :evil: :evil: :evil:  I only intended a remap and DV but then... as Robin says, its a slippery slope - but its more like I've fallen of a cliff in my case  :laugh: :laugh:

It's called HURDY GOADING :rolleyes: :grin: :wink:

Well yes... you ARE one of the main culprits  :rolleyes: :grin: along with people like Robin, Greenhouse, VTec Abuser (or should that be GTIAbuser  :laugh:), Phil McCavity (don't know why?  :grin:), The Doc, NewGolf, Pesharik et al....
Title: Re: Turbo Back Milltek
Post by: Saint Steve on 16 November 2008, 19:10
How on earth can i be blamed for being a cause to reasoning behind Modifying!!! im Mr Stock Standard here!!! :laugh:

I get ribbed cus im NEARLY  the only Person thats not touched his 2.0TFSi under the bonnet!.

I Just love Phylis the way she is  :embarassed:.................................





















for now  :wink:
Title: Re: Turbo Back Milltek
Post by: Greenouse on 16 November 2008, 20:17


I've been dithering on it for a while and something just snapped last week and I thought, sod it I'll do everything now as its going to come on sooner or later.... I want it sooner  :evil: :evil: :evil:  I only intended a remap and DV but then... as Robin says, its a slippery slope - but its more like I've fallen of a cliff in my case  :laugh: :laugh:

It's called HURDY GOADING :rolleyes: :grin: :wink:

Well yes... you ARE one of the main culprits  :rolleyes: :grin: along with people like Robin, Greenhouse, VTec Abuser (or should that be GTIAbuser  :laugh:), Phil McCavity (don't know why?  :grin:), The Doc, NewGolf, Pesharik et al....

Ha Ha! Love it!!  :grin: I've just about cracked Markymark too, especially after a ride in my car today  :evil: :evil:
Title: Re: Turbo Back Milltek
Post by: illyun on 16 November 2008, 21:15
How on earth can i be blamed for being a cause to reasoning behind Modifying!!! im Mr Stock Standard here!!! :laugh:

 
 

But you egg me on  :laugh: :laugh:  :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:  :evil: :evil: :evil: