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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: Drewcole on 13 November 2008, 18:04

Title: Who can work out my conundrum.....?
Post by: Drewcole on 13 November 2008, 18:04

Right, as some of you may have read. My 8v GTi died a couple of weeks ago.... sob.  :cry:

I have tried all sorts of things to get it going again:

- New Coil Pak
- New Dizzy cap
- Checked all leads for sparks etc.
- Changed fuel pump relay
- Checked the fuel lines were not blocked to the engine, all okay.
- All electrical connections appear to be okay.

I'm going to take all the plugs out just to see if they are damaged then after that I have no idea.  :undecided:

The battery is on charge now to make sure its full of life next time I try to start the beast. 

Can anyone think of another reason why it wouldn't start, it turns over fine but doesn't seem to want to kick into life, every now and again the exhaust pops whilst trying to start. 

The only other thing I can think of is that the whole distributer may need changing?

Thanks for any ideas I can try, in the mean time I will have to carry on driving the Land Rover around and crying everytime I go near a petrol station!
Title: Re: Who can work out my conundrum.....?
Post by: monzablue16v on 13 November 2008, 19:05
Check the hall sensor, (crankshaft position sensor) sits on top of the dissy three wires on a plug, might have some moisture in the plug or a broken wire or the sender could be shafted. Can you not get it on vagcom and read the codes?
Title: Re: Who can work out my conundrum.....?
Post by: AudiA8Quattro on 13 November 2008, 19:25
Have you checked the timing belt?
Title: Re: Who can work out my conundrum.....?
Post by: Drewcole on 13 November 2008, 22:39
Check the hall sensor, (crankshaft position sensor) sits on top of the dissy three wires on a plug, might have some moisture in the plug or a broken wire or the sender could be shafted. Can you not get it on vagcom and read the codes?

Checked most of the plugs etc, i'll give that one another look at, i know the one you mean.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Who can work out my conundrum.....?
Post by: Drewcole on 13 November 2008, 22:40
Have you checked the timing belt?

No not done that, have no idea how to either! any pointers?
Title: Re: Who can work out my conundrum.....?
Post by: VeeDubClub on 14 November 2008, 11:50
Are you able to bump start the car?
Title: Re: Who can work out my conundrum.....?
Post by: Drewcole on 14 November 2008, 12:29
Are you able to bump start the car?

No it won't, if I could then it would start on the key I would have thought?!
Title: Re: Who can work out my conundrum.....?
Post by: VeeDubClub on 14 November 2008, 14:13
the majority of the time yes.. But not always.

If it still doesnt start when you bump it then thats my idea out the window.. sorry chap!  :sad:

But the timing belt is on the left of the engine, just under the air filter feed etc.. Will have a black plastic cover over it, just clip that off and you will see if the belt is ok or not
Title: Re: Who can work out my conundrum.....?
Post by: Drewcole on 14 November 2008, 15:19

Ah do you mean timing belt AKA 'cam belt'?

If so then already checked that and all is okay!
Title: Re: Who can work out my conundrum.....?
Post by: nige_s on 14 November 2008, 15:30
Sorry for an obvious suggestion, but it does have fuel in it?

Have you made sure fuel is getting to the engine?
Title: Re: Who can work out my conundrum.....?
Post by: Mr Blue on 14 November 2008, 15:42
Have you checked the crank sensor? Its a favorite meal for these engines.

Sits under/ near the front engine mount.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/sat1s1ngh/sensordamage.jpg)
Title: Re: Who can work out my conundrum.....?
Post by: Drewcole on 14 November 2008, 16:00
Sorry for an obvious suggestion, but it does have fuel in it?

Have you made sure fuel is getting to the engine?

Yep half a tank and took the fuel line off then turned it over.....  goes squirted out all over the place so i'd say the pump etc is fine!
Title: Re: Who can work out my conundrum.....?
Post by: Drewcole on 14 November 2008, 16:02
Have you checked the crank sensor? Its a favorite meal for these engines.

Sits under/ near the front engine mount.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/sat1s1ngh/sensordamage.jpg)

Not checked that one yet, i'll do that as well this weekend.

Thanks everyone i'll keep you all posted to how I get on.
Title: Re: Who can work out my conundrum.....?
Post by: admc6 on 14 November 2008, 18:14
if you can borrow or have vagcom it should tell you if the crank sensor has gone, but that would be my bet to
Title: Re: Who can work out my conundrum.....?
Post by: Drewcole on 15 November 2008, 15:21
 :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: S H E    IS   ALIVE!!!!!!!!  :grin: :grin: :grin:

You'll never guess what it was, when the guy came to recover me the other week he took apart the dizzy cap lead etc to see if they were all wet. When he put it back together, although the leads were in the right order on the cap he had moved them all round the 2 places so, the firing order was out.

so after finding where top dead center was, it pointed the rotor arm at number one on the dizzy cap so icould then put the leads back into the right order. She fired up on the first turn of the key!

At least I have some new bits on the engine now and know allot more about how it all works after taking it all apart, thanks for everyones help on this one.

Here are some pictures of after as I thought she should have a wash.

(http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6056/golf1gq3.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
(http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/golf1gq3.jpg/1/w640.png) (http://g.imageshack.us/img233/golf1gq3.jpg/1/)

one with the caddy too.

(http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/8459/golf2qa4.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
(http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/golf2qa4.jpg/1/w640.png) (http://g.imageshack.us/img235/golf2qa4.jpg/1/)
Title: Re: Who can work out my conundrum.....?
Post by: davero on 15 November 2008, 15:42
Nice one mate, glad you got it sorted.
Title: Re: Who can work out my conundrum.....?
Post by: Drewcole on 15 November 2008, 15:54

Cheers bud, i'm well happy now. Although the track rod ends are fooked I don't care!  Just so happy to be driving her again instead of the money sucking Disco!
Title: Re: Who can work out my conundrum.....?
Post by: monzablue16v on 15 November 2008, 16:38
See that's Dubs, one minute your ready to set it on fire and the next you've fixed it so you wash and polish it. :laugh:
Title: Re: Who can work out my conundrum.....?
Post by: Drewcole on 15 November 2008, 18:53
See that's Dubs, one minute your ready to set it on fire and the next you've fixed it so you wash and polish it. :laugh:

Yeah very true, I was just going to run it into the ground.... But got onto GSF and ordered up all the parts that need fixing on her, I seem to have found a new love for the old girl.... Untill she dieds again!