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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: ravydav on 09 November 2008, 20:50
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Has anyone else noticed that the brakes on the Edition 30 are not so good!
I was thinking about upgrading to R32 brakes, will this make much of a difference or will I need to get better master cylinder(possibly)
If do get them how easy are the back to do,bearing in mind that they are off a 4 wheel drive.
any help welcome.
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i aint noticed mine being bad, but maybe i dont break as hard!
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Agreed, i dont run mine hard enough on public roads mainly because of risk to my self or anyone else!!. Never put mine round a track to find
out in that respect either.
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Maybe its just my driving style :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
Its just I had a mark 4 tdi before and felt a bit better.
Brakes are clean and moving ok so its not an issuse with sticking brakes.
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I didn't think the brakes were too bad, although they are the same as the standard gti, but like others, i don't brake heavily.
However, as VW has hiked the bhp of the ed30 :smug: you would have thought they would have changed the brakes to the R32 as a matter of course, for safety reasons
F-P
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AFAIK the Ed30 has exactly the same brakes as the GTI. They're good until you try something like AP's or Hurdy's Tarox, then it's the difference between chalk and cheese.
Most VAG brakes are known for feeling over servo'd and not as direct in the pedal feel response.
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Mine are plenty good, then again i have the R32 front set up :grin:
the brake servo from the r32 and the ed30 are the same item. You can once the R32 set up is on the car change via vag com to let the car now its got a better set up. this info was supplied by T/T on various other threads.
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I don't think there up to much from high speed. Im thinking of upgrading the discs/pads, and brake lines to stainless ones :smiley:
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I agree that getting better pads in the first instance will make a world of difference.
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didnt like the brakes on my ed30 so put the r32/leon cupra front brakes on mine and noticed a huge difference in stopping power. A very worthwhile mod IMO. Especially if your planning to map your ed30
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The stock Ed 30 brakes are good - just not good enough for a tuned ED30.
Power is no good without control.
Oh, and I'm a pic whore!! :evil:
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/hurdy_album/5SpokeswithTaroxBigBrakes005a.jpg)
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/hurdy_album/TAROX10potsatAwesome2.jpg)
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/hurdy_album/TAROXb34-gt-10.jpg)
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^^^^
I've just done a sex-wee! Have you got new alloys, Hurdy? Where are the pics?
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I've just done a sex-wee! Have you got new alloys, Hurdy? Where are the pics?
LOL :grin:
The alloys are some old 5 spokes I've had under the house a while (err...two years!) and were on my GTTDI. I thought I'd try them on the ED30 to see what the BBK would look like with rims that showed them off. Only thing is that the alloys are quite heavy (30lb) and so popped them back under the house again. :smiley:
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Hello,
I'm not a huge fan of the brakes either. I find they dont inspire any confidence when making progress. When you put things into perspective its a 1400kg car thats saloon weight (give or take 100kg or so) the evos/Imprezzas/S4's of this world don't make do with single pot calipers. I'm pretty sure the usual pad and grooved disc swap wont be enough. I reckon a new caliper setup will do the trick.
Hurdy; did you find your brakes more balanced with the Tarox caliper? i.e the servo grab was not as prominent any more, it had more caliper feel and bite ? Does that make any sense?
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Hurdy; did you find your brakes more balanced with the Tarox caliper? i.e the servo grab was not as prominent any more, it had more caliper feel and bite ? Does that make any sense?
The brakes are in another league to the standard set up, much better than the R32 set-up too. The bite and feel of the brakes is excellent and there is a lot more progressiveness to them. They aren't simply on/off affairs. The balance between the front and rears isn't altered much although I can tell the difference over standard and IMO the balance is better than standard. :smiley:
Some aftermarket brakes can feel quite "grabby" as you say and also you tend to have to put up with a certain amount of brake squeal, but not with the TAROX's :cool:
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this is my next area to be upgreded before the power ive got a set of ap 6 pots cp5555 with 356mm/32mm discs just got to find a company to machine my bells and brkts does anybody know if they would fit under the monza 2's
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this is my next area to be upgreded before the power ive got a set of ap 6 pots cp5555 with 356mm/32mm discs just got to find a company to machine my bells and brkts does anybody know if they would fit under the monza 2's
with those discs i think u'll be needing 19" rims minimum.
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i had the same set up under 18in oz super Ts on my escort cosworth with no problems i just happen to have another set up seems a shame not to use them on my golf you can never have enough braking power
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Stock brakes are okay if you wanna slow down from say 80mph but any faster and they work but sometimes you wanna stick your foot through the floor to slow the car down a bit quicker.
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The R32 set up (345mm rotors) fit quite easily under the 18" Monza's. With only 5.5mm more radius, they may fit just as easy. It is more likely to be the size of the calipers that stops them fitting for both diameter and spoke clearance on the front face. The only way to be sure would be to pre-fit for size, especially if you are having custom brackets. :smiley:
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ah maybe it will then. AP say 355mm 6 pots will go under 18" Super T's. It's the 365mm kite that requires 19" rims.
In anycase, if you manage to get them to fit, they'll looking the absolute dogs!
Good luck.
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Better to have good brakes and not need them, than need them and not have them!!
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I'm looking at using an Audi 365mm disc and a 6 pot from HiSpec. I'm pretty sure I can get it to fit under the 18" rim but I may need to adjust the offset slightly. Worst case scenario though is I have to turn the disc down 5mm to fit under.
Glenn this is somthing I am doing myself. Don't worry I have cnc's at my disposal :wink: Give me a ring and we can bash our heads together with ideas. I've sent you a PM with my number.
LSW