GolfGTIforum.co.uk

Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: richard s on 06 November 2008, 21:43

Title: will g60 head fit on 8v gti engine if so worth it or not
Post by: richard s on 06 November 2008, 21:43
i have an agg block with pb head fitted and was wondering will g60 head fit on and line up with the manifolds
if so would there be any advantage in regards to bigger valves better flow etc or would it be a waste of time
cheers
Title: Re: will g60 head fit on 8v gti engine if so worth it or not
Post by: Ben Lessani on 07 November 2008, 09:15
I'm probably quite wrong - but doesn't the G60 have a low compression head to compensate for the supercharger?
Title: Re: will g60 head fit on 8v gti engine if so worth it or not
Post by: Diamond Hell on 07 November 2008, 09:46
I reckon you're right, Ben.

Exhaust ports on the back are the same spacing as the 8V.
Title: Re: will g60 head fit on 8v gti engine if so worth it or not
Post by: rubjonny on 07 November 2008, 16:25
G60 head is a direct swap, same combustion area.  G60 low compression is made up with piston shape :)
theres not much in it though apparently the ports are a bit bigger but I've not seen one in the flesh.  They also say very late MK2 digis got the same head casting too, but we all know 'they' say quite a lot of things that turn out to be rubbish :grin:

The G60 has sodium filled zaust valves and the head is heat treated, apart from that not that much advantage fitting one, if you can find one cheap by all means go for it but its not gonna offer you massive power over a normal GTI head.  The cam is of no use on a n/a engine either but chuck your old one in and off you go.
Title: Re: will g60 head fit on 8v gti engine if so worth it or not
Post by: danny_p on 07 November 2008, 17:45
it all depends what G60 the head is off,  PG  ( the common one )  will fit  has sodium filled valves and heat treat ect.   the 1N  iirc   it the RALLYE g60 engine has some more differnaces,    diffrent size  headbolts and apperntly diffrent alloy.

be carefull with G60 heads tho, g60's have a habbit of cracking there heads,   look carefully between the valves on cyls 1 & 2   
Title: Re: will g60 head fit on 8v gti engine if so worth it or not
Post by: rubjonny on 07 November 2008, 17:48
ah yes forgot about the rallye head being a bit special cheers mr dan!

check the cam bearing areas too, dont want any scoring here  :embarassed:
Title: Re: will g60 head fit on 8v gti engine if so worth it or not
Post by: richard s on 08 November 2008, 20:11
cheers for the replys guys
its currently on ebay at £21 but if like said it turns out to be cracked its a waste of money so do you recon i  would be better off buying some carbide burrs and having a go at porting my spare head
Title: Re: will g60 head fit on 8v gti engine if so worth it or not
Post by: DarnPB on 08 November 2008, 22:10
cheers for the replys guys
its currently on ebay at £21 but if like said it turns out to be cracked its a waste of money so do you recon i  would be better off buying some carbide burrs and having a go at porting my spare head

Yes! If there are no gains in fitting a G60 head, then TBH, don't bother. Just modify yours up. You can get big valves fitted to yours anyway although you will be paying for it. You will gain some power but at a trade for torque.
Title: Re: will g60 head fit on 8v gti engine if so worth it or not
Post by: rubjonny on 09 November 2008, 00:44
once you start porting out the head it makes no difference what head you start with, as the only performance increase comes from slightly largr ports as std.
Title: Re: will g60 head fit on 8v gti engine if so worth it or not
Post by: danny_p on 09 November 2008, 01:17
if you go far enough performance wise  the sodium filled exhaust valve can be a help,  get more flow past a normal valve tho
Title: Re: will g60 head fit on 8v gti engine if so worth it or not
Post by: richard s on 09 November 2008, 21:30
cheers guys i was thinking that maybe a g60 head was the equivalent of a ported head but seems like it is not
as for porting mine i use car daily so want it to remain drivable (if you get what i mean) so would i be better off just matching ports to manifold or going for it and have a full on porting session
i have read a write up on club gti a bit ago but dont know if it was intended for a race/track or road car hence question about how much to port