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Title: Lowering mk4's serious stress on components
Post by: shaft69 on 22 October 2008, 23:11
I've lowered my car on coilovers found that wishbone bushes are split. The thing is arms are only 6 months old and when looking at arms they look under serious stress pointing upwards. thinking about poly bushes but way arms look poly bushes would drop out. Anyone had probs with lowering there cars. mine's dropped about 60-70mm all round.
Title: Re: Lowering mk4's serious stress on components
Post by: richw911 on 22 October 2008, 23:26
I've lowered my car on coilovers found that wishbone bushes are split. The thing is arms are only 6 months old and when looking at arms they look under serious stress pointing upwards. thinking about poly bushes but way arms look poly bushes would drop out. Anyone had probs with lowering there cars. mine's dropped about 60-70mm all round.

Wind it up to a 40mm drop IMO
Title: Re: Lowering mk4's serious stress on components
Post by: iMation on 23 October 2008, 08:08
ive got mine on its arse at the mo, ive found that the Audi TT wishbones are working a treat tbh, not had a problem with them, the only problem i have now is, not having front and rear ARB's :D

Stu

p.s. when i stuck me coilovers on i changed all bushes and shock asorbers
Title: Re: Lowering mk4's serious stress on components
Post by: dai-cymru on 23 October 2008, 12:32
lowering causes stress on componets because of altered geometry the only way to avoid it is to raise it closer to standard, large wheels also cause problems to bearings and bushes, upgrading the bushes will help but where does the stress go then?? through metal components and cracks are possible, but thats is unlikely unless it's seriously low and you have massive wheels
Title: Re: Lowering mk4's serious stress on components
Post by: iMation on 23 October 2008, 13:22
this is why you get AIR Susspension, so then when your ROLLIN you can raise up :D:D:D
Title: Re: Lowering mk4's serious stress on components
Post by: Ivor Mk4 Turbo on 23 October 2008, 19:05
lowering causes stress on componets because of altered geometry the only way to avoid it is to raise it closer to standard, large wheels also cause problems to bearings and bushes, upgrading the bushes will help but where does the stress go then?? through metal components and cracks are possible, but thats is unlikely unless it's seriously low and you have massive wheels

Do you mean heavier wheels??  'Coz, the 18" Superleg's I've just bought are lighter than the 16" Brands Hatch rims I've just taken off!! :smug:
Title: Re: Lowering mk4's serious stress on components
Post by: richw911 on 23 October 2008, 19:22
lowering causes stress on componets because of altered geometry the only way to avoid it is to raise it closer to standard, large wheels also cause problems to bearings and bushes, upgrading the bushes will help but where does the stress go then?? through metal components and cracks are possible, but thats is unlikely unless it's seriously low and you have massive wheels

Do you mean heavier wheels??  'Coz, the 18" Superleg's I've just bought are lighter than the 16" Brands Hatch rims I've just taken off!! :smug:

oooh pics....... :wink:
Title: Re: Lowering mk4's serious stress on components
Post by: Hulmie on 23 October 2008, 19:37
ive got mine on its arse at the mo, ive found that the Audi TT wishbones are working a treat tbh, not had a problem with them, the only problem i have now is, not having front and rear ARB's :D

Stu

p.s. when i stuck me coilovers on i changed all bushes and shock asorbers


Audi TT wishbone's? or do you mean Audi TT front arm rear bushes? If Audi TT arms fit then i may go that way.
Title: Re: Lowering mk4's serious stress on components
Post by: dai-cymru on 23 October 2008, 19:47
lowering causes stress on componets because of altered geometry the only way to avoid it is to raise it closer to standard, large wheels also cause problems to bearings and bushes, upgrading the bushes will help but where does the stress go then?? through metal components and cracks are possible, but thats is unlikely unless it's seriously low and you have massive wheels

Do you mean heavier wheels??  'Coz, the 18" Superleg's I've just bought are lighter than the 16" Brands Hatch rims I've just taken off!! :smug:

nothing to do with the weight its the width thats the problem  :smug:
Title: Re: Lowering mk4's serious stress on components
Post by: shaft69 on 23 October 2008, 21:56
I spoke to balance motorsport he said betsway round it was to fit everything thing from audi tt if lowering 50+. What would car drive like if arb removed, they don't fit one to mk2 driver only gti. My old mk2 driver was on Jreg with 2.1lt tsr engine in and had no arb. lowered 40mm that drove well. will get pics up tomorrow take some in morning when get car on ramp.
Title: Re: Lowering mk4's serious stress on components
Post by: iMation on 24 October 2008, 07:39
if you remove the arb mate i dont think its gonna be good news for you,  when my drop link broke, it was like having no ARB and was pants, only moved about 10 meters and was crap

get teh TT wishbone arms
Title: Re: Lowering mk4's serious stress on components
Post by: shaft69 on 24 October 2008, 23:10
Whats the difference between the mk4 and tt arms?
Title: Re: Lowering mk4's serious stress on components
Post by: iMation on 25 October 2008, 08:26
just uprated bushes in the arms mate
Title: Re: Lowering mk4's serious stress on components
Post by: shaft69 on 26 October 2008, 11:42
Few pics under car-

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a197/shaft69/Picture003.jpg)
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(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a197/shaft69/Picture005.jpg)
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Title: Re: Lowering mk4's serious stress on components
Post by: iMation on 26 October 2008, 13:36
looks like your ARB is rubbing on your brake like?

Be carefully with that mate
Title: Re: Lowering mk4's serious stress on components
Post by: shaft69 on 26 October 2008, 16:04
I found that last week the drop links i'm using are 1" longer than standard ones so will be changing asap.
Title: Re: Lowering mk4's serious stress on components
Post by: iMation on 26 October 2008, 17:21
I found that last week the drop links i'm using are 1" longer than standard ones so will be changing asap.

the reason your drop links are longer are for clearance so the ARB doesnt touch your Driveshaft