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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: TheRaven on 20 October 2008, 15:06

Title: Mk2 1.3 BHP?
Post by: TheRaven on 20 October 2008, 15:06
How much BHP do I have as standard on my 1991 1.3 Mk2? 12500+ miles

Pic below?
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Post by: Horney on 20 October 2008, 15:11
54 galloping gee gees.

Nick
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Post by: TheRaven on 20 October 2008, 15:13
Aw bless, thats sh!t lol.

Goddamn insurance wayne kerrs!!!!!
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Post by: Khare on 20 October 2008, 16:35
54 from factory, over the years probably lost a couple. so im gonna guess about 45 - 50. stick some mods (k&n filter in tehre and get the carb tuned and should put u back to 55 - 60
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Post by: Jay on 20 October 2008, 20:34
Cheapest mod is to use Tesco 99ron  :grin:
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Post by: Khare on 20 October 2008, 20:41
Cheapest mod is to use Tesco 99ron  :grin:
but more expensive on the long run! :grin:
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Post by: Jay on 20 October 2008, 22:15
Cheapest mod is to use Tesco 99ron  :grin:
but more expensive on the long run! :grin:
Didn't say how often  :tongue:
Title: Re: Mk2 1.3 BHP?
Post by: TheRaven on 21 October 2008, 09:13
Cheapest mod is to use Tesco 99ron  :grin:

What does this actually do?
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Post by: tobz. on 21 October 2008, 09:46
^^^nothing in a car that doesn't have the electronics to take advantage of it.
The higher ron means that the ignition timing can be advanced more without pinking occuring and the engine will develop more power. However for this to happen you need a car equipped with a knock sensor/injection/ecu that can adjust the timing on the fly.
Save your money and use basic 95ron, in fact the 1.3 would happily run on 91ron if such a thing still existed as it's a low compression engine.
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Post by: rubjonny on 21 October 2008, 10:02
Not true, if you re-tune the ignition timing on 99ron then you will see the benefit. however you wont be able to run as well on cheap fuel, it will pink if you push it.  This is exactly why the Golf owners manual/petty flap says 98minimum on 16v and 8v k-jet cars, they're tuned for premium fuel ;)
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Post by: tobz. on 21 October 2008, 10:06
^^^Aye jonny I wasn't saying that you couldn't get some benefit out of 99ron fuel with a carb setup but it does involve adjusting the timing. I was saying that simply bunging 99ron in as suggested earlier in the thread would have no effect.
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Post by: rubjonny on 21 October 2008, 10:18
you were implying it would only work on cars with a knock sesnor, mk2 16v doesnt have a knock sesnor  :wink:
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Post by: tobz. on 21 October 2008, 10:38
Yes which is why running the 16v on anything with a ron value higher than 98 will have no effect on the power, the timing is already tuned for 98ron. I think you misread what I said in my original post. I said in order for a car to produce any more power from a higher ron fuel simply by putting it in the tank it needs to be equipped with a knock sensor and relevant electronics.
Simply putting this fuel in a car without this feature will have no effect unless further adjustments are made.
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Post by: rubjonny on 21 October 2008, 10:57
no i did not miss-read it, its exactly what you typed.  you said:

The higher ron means that the ignition timing can be advanced more without pinking occuring and the engine will develop more power. However for this to happen you need a car equipped with a knock sensor/injection/ecu that can adjust the timing on the fly

which is simply not true, you dont need a knock sensor for this to happen, you can adjust the timing yourself.  I was simply making this point clear ;)
Title: Re: Mk2 1.3 BHP?
Post by: TheRaven on 21 October 2008, 11:00
Now now children calm down... Its not important, I would just like to know what would be best for my little 1.3... :shocked:
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Post by: tobz. on 21 October 2008, 11:09
^^^lol forum banter ;)

Ok well if you want to be that picky then yes any car can be re-tuned to produce more power from a higher ron fuel but you would have to use that fuel type permanently from then on.
My original post was based on the assumption (from her previous threads) that raven is unlikely to be whipping out the timing gun to retune things (sorry raven no disrespect intended). I didn't want her to be wasting money on more expensive fuel that would make no difference without the necessary adjustment being made ;)
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Post by: TheRaven on 21 October 2008, 11:13
^^^lol forum banter ;)

(sorry raven no disrespect intended)


No issues Im thick and know fu ck all! Thats why Im here lol!  :rolleyes:
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Post by: rubjonny on 21 October 2008, 11:30
yes and to be fair even with more timing advance you prob wouldnt see a noticable difference on 99ron fuel on a 1.3!  p.s. no need for a timing gun when doing this, on an old car you can only do it by ear! timing gun is only needed to reset back to factory  :tongue:
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Post by: kittie on 21 October 2008, 12:25
my digi has the 98 ron sticker  :undecided:

I've used that redex stuff before and it seemed to do it good (1.4 carbed fiat it was).
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Post by: Organisys on 21 October 2008, 12:36
Can't say the knock sensors work very well in either of my cars tbh, I've had to adjust the distributor on them both over the summer to sort a little pinking, in fact now the cooler weather is here might have to tickle them back the other way a little.
 :smiley:
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Post by: rubjonny on 21 October 2008, 12:38
could be the flap has been replaced with one off an older car/16v.  to get the best out of a digi you want premium fuel but it will run on 95 happily doe to knock sensing, assuming its working right.