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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: Hurdy on 18 October 2008, 15:25

Title: Round 2 - broken car!
Post by: Hurdy on 18 October 2008, 15:25
"Holy sh!t - what was that?"

Huge loud bang from under the car!

I went around a left turn corner at a junction - 10mph, no potholes, no hard braking or accelerating.

Then after that - bang, clank, bang, rattle, clank, bang :sick:

Got back to the house and looked under the car thinking a suspension link had gone somewhere and found this:-

(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/hurdy_album/ARBBracketbroken1.jpg)

 :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick:

The bracket for the front ARB has snapped at one side and now the car is garaged till I can get hold of a spare.

I've only had the ARB's fitted in May and so they have only been on the car for about 5 months.

I'll be phoning JBS to see what they can do for me on Monday :sad:
Title: Re: Round 2 - broken car!
Post by: 182_blue on 18 October 2008, 15:27
Ouch, your not having much look mate, hope it gets sorted
Title: Re: Round 2 - broken car!
Post by: T88OMM on 18 October 2008, 15:27
Sorry to hear this John, there seems to be a spate of ED's going wrong at the moment!! Hope mine doesn't catch the diesease!!  :sick:
Title: Re: Round 2 - broken car!
Post by: bacillus on 18 October 2008, 15:29
Hope that you get sorted asap mate.
Title: Re: Round 2 - broken car!
Post by: Greenouse on 18 October 2008, 15:30
Blimey! You can't be happy about that! That's a bit shoddy after only a few months  :angry:
Title: Re: Round 2 - broken car!
Post by: Rhyso on 18 October 2008, 15:32
gutted

 :sad:
Title: Re: Round 2 - broken car!
Post by: Hurdy on 18 October 2008, 15:42
Blimey! You can't be happy about that! That's a bit shoddy after only a few months  :angry:

Pretty p1ssed of TBH. :angry:

I'm thinking I might ask for both brackets to be replaced as the other one will have been overstressed too and could be part of a dodgy batch :undecided:

Has anyone else ever known an aftermarket ARB bracket to fail like that?
Title: Re: Round 2 - broken car!
Post by: Komenda on 18 October 2008, 16:34

Considering the loads that they take I would tink they make them out of granite.

I would ask that it be checked by the manufacturer as it could be a dodgy batch with a fault running through them, who knows how many people could have these just waiting to break.
Title: Re: Round 2 - broken car!
Post by: Hurdy on 18 October 2008, 16:35
Oooh, Went over to another forum :embarassed: and found JBS sales posting and realised they must work today. Phoned up and after a little explaination they are ordering two new brackets and fitting them for me. :smiley: Top service again :cool:

Now all I have to do is convince myself that the original bracket was faulty! :undecided:
Title: Re: Round 2 - broken car!
Post by: SteveS on 18 October 2008, 16:48
scary!!!
Title: Re: Round 2 - broken car!
Post by: gazbutmk5gti on 18 October 2008, 16:58
Oooh, Went over to another forum :embarassed: and found JBS sales posting and realised they must work today. Phoned up and after a little explaination they are ordering two new brackets and fitting them for me. :smiley: Top service again :cool:

Now all I have to do is convince myself that the original bracket was faulty! :undecided:

Are they an aftermarket part Hurdy, I was thinking about it after we spoke earlier and I'm pretty sure you re-use the VW ones with a different bush to take the larger diameter roll-bar. I'm sure you do with the eibach ones anyway :smiley:
Title: Re: Round 2 - broken car!
Post by: RedRobin on 18 October 2008, 17:29
....

Is it the ARB link which is broken?

Neuspeed make some stronger ones : - http://www.neuspeed-europe.com/product.php?xProd=65&xSec=1&jssCart=040f5edc4dbf91ca1f1166fc961dc418 (http://www.neuspeed-europe.com/product.php?xProd=65&xSec=1&jssCart=040f5edc4dbf91ca1f1166fc961dc418)

(http://www.neuspeed.com/data/images/32.10.90_img2.jpg)
Title: Re: Round 2 - broken car!
Post by: gazbutmk5gti on 18 October 2008, 17:31
no its the bracket that holds the bush, maybe the link has gone to?
Title: Re: Round 2 - broken car!
Post by: R32UK on 18 October 2008, 18:48
Sorry to heard about that mate. Hope it get sorted soon... and just be glad you didnt get it fitted by a dealers!! :smiley:
Title: Re: Round 2 - broken car!
Post by: RedRobin on 18 October 2008, 19:26
Sorry to heard about that mate. Hope it get sorted soon... and just be glad you didnt get it fitted by a dealers!! :smiley:

....Why? - The product would still be under its own warranty.
Title: Re: Round 2 - broken car!
Post by: MAT ed30 on 18 October 2008, 19:30
its an easy enough fix so dont worry about it too much  :smiley:
Title: Re: Round 2 - broken car!
Post by: stealthwolf on 18 October 2008, 19:33
Musta been fookin scary when you heard that bang I know I'd be pi$$ scared!
Title: Re: Round 2 - broken car!
Post by: illyun on 18 October 2008, 21:19
My heart sank when I saw the title of the post and your name against it Hurdy... you've had more than your fair share of bad luck with that car. It seems that a lot of Ed30 owners seem to have bad luck... whats with this car?
Title: Re: Round 2 - broken car!
Post by: Hurdy on 18 October 2008, 21:45
Oooh, Went over to another forum :embarassed: and found JBS sales posting and realised they must work today. Phoned up and after a little explaination they are ordering two new brackets and fitting them for me. :smiley: Top service again :cool:

Now all I have to do is convince myself that the original bracket was faulty! :undecided:

Are they an aftermarket part Hurdy, I was thinking about it after we spoke earlier and I'm pretty sure you re-use the VW ones with a different bush to take the larger diameter roll-bar. I'm sure you do with the eibach ones anyway :smiley:

The pic below shows what Autotech supply with their ARB and is lifted from the JBS section on UKMKIV's :smiley:

(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/hurdy_album/swaybar_front_mk5.jpg)
Title: Re: Round 2 - broken car!
Post by: TagnuT on 19 October 2008, 09:06
Hope you get it sorted ok. Not the noise you want to hear. :shocked:
Title: Re: Round 2 - broken car!
Post by: gazbutmk5gti on 19 October 2008, 10:19
Oooh, Went over to another forum :embarassed: and found JBS sales posting and realised they must work today. Phoned up and after a little explaination they are ordering two new brackets and fitting them for me. :smiley: Top service again :cool:

Now all I have to do is convince myself that the original bracket was faulty! :undecided:

Are they an aftermarket part Hurdy, I was thinking about it after we spoke earlier and I'm pretty sure you re-use the VW ones with a different bush to take the larger diameter roll-bar. I'm sure you do with the eibach ones anyway :smiley:

fair enough, must be a manufacturing defect in the part, sort of puts you off though doesn't it

The pic below shows what Autotech supply with their ARB and is lifted from the JBS section on UKMKIV's :smiley:

(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/hurdy_album/swaybar_front_mk5.jpg)
Title: Re: Round 2 - broken car!
Post by: Saint Steve on 19 October 2008, 11:30
Arent those bits not sold seperatley ,the clamps i mean, or is it a complete new ARB assembly?
Title: Re: Round 2 - broken car!
Post by: Hurdy on 19 October 2008, 13:20
Arent those bits not sold seperatley ,the clamps i mean, or is it a complete new ARB assembly?

Mike at JBS is ordering the clamps on their own. :smiley:
Title: Re: Round 2 - broken car!
Post by: bacillus on 19 October 2008, 14:31
Or borrowing them from another in-stock kit.   :smiley:
Title: Re: Round 2 - broken car!
Post by: R32UK on 19 October 2008, 17:21
Sorry to heard about that mate. Hope it get sorted soon... and just be glad you didnt get it fitted by a dealers!! :smiley:

....Why? - The product would still be under its own warranty.

But it would also mean that something else will be damaged/broken whilst in at the dealers :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Round 2 - broken car!
Post by: E30M3 on 19 October 2008, 17:56
Hurdy sorry to hear about another problem.  Atleast your safe and were not under heavy conering !!

I've seen OEM brackets snap, but never an aftermarket one, but that bracket did look a bit puny !


Hope this all will get sorted with the minimum of fuss !
Title: Re: Round 2 - broken car!
Post by: NEWEY on 20 October 2008, 14:40
hope it all gets sorted soon. dont seem to be having much luck at the moment
Title: Re: Round 2 - broken car!
Post by: vRStu on 20 October 2008, 21:05
I removed the Eibach bars from my car just before it was sold.  The OEM brackets aren't available seperately, only with a new ARB so mine had been welded up, what a pig to get off I can tell you.
Title: Re: Round 2 - broken car!
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 21 October 2008, 15:53
Blimey! You can't be happy about that! That's a bit shoddy after only a few months  :angry:

Pretty p1ssed of TBH. :angry:

I'm thinking I might ask for both brackets to be replaced as the other one will have been overstressed too and could be part of a dodgy batch :undecided:

Ooooch.  :shocked:

Get both replaced.
Title: Re: Round 2 - broken car!
Post by: Hurdy on 24 October 2008, 11:18
Well, it is now Friday and I've just phoned JBS again.

Still no sign of the brackets, but "they will phone me if they turn up!"

********  **** ***!    I phoned JBS up last Saturday and was told that they would order it Monday and it would be "next day delivery" through UPS. Now I'm being told on Friday
that the part is coming from abroad and may take "some time" to arrive.

I can understand that JBS are at the fate of the post, but they could have been up front about it from the start :angry: so I could have had time to look for an alternative :angry:

Looks like I will not be coming to the Prosport RR day tomorrow unless there is a minor miracle in the next 6 hours and it also looks like I may even be on the bus on Monday to get to work for the first time in XX years! :sick:

At this point I'm even thinking about going to get the bracket welded by a repairer and charge JBS for it!

Not happy at the moment, I've been on holiday all week and not been able to use the car at all!
Title: Re: Round 2 - broken car!
Post by: Vtec Abuser on 24 October 2008, 11:51
GUTTED!!!!  :cry: Fingers crossed for you mate, but like you say, it aint looking good..  :cry:
Title: Re: Round 2 - broken car!
Post by: RedRobin on 24 October 2008, 12:42
....

That's total bummer!! I'm afraid I wouldn't be at all happy with JBS just because they appear to have misled you.
Title: Re: Round 2 - broken car!
Post by: joesgti on 24 October 2008, 12:48
John, take it to your local garage today, take the oe arb, and get it put on, will take them about 1 and 1/2 hours and will cost about 50quid. i got a tyer specialist to fit mine. its really not that hard if you have a ramp, then you can come tomorrow and you have you car for the rest of the weekend ~ :afro:
Title: Re: Round 2 - broken car!
Post by: Vtec Abuser on 24 October 2008, 13:18
John, take it to your local garage today, take the oe arb, and get it put on, will take them about 1 and 1/2 hours and will cost about 50quid. i got a tyer specialist to fit mine. its really not that hard if you have a ramp, then you can come tomorrow and you have you car for the rest of the weekend ~ :afro:
Plus kick off with JBS next week so that when the new one does come, they want to be fitting it F.O.C at the very least.. :angry:
Title: Re: Round 2 - broken car!
Post by: gazbutmk5gti on 24 October 2008, 13:25
What joe said^^^^^ :smiley:
Title: Re: Round 2 - broken car!
Post by: Hurdy on 24 October 2008, 13:32
John, take it to your local garage today, take the oe arb, and get it put on, will take them about 1 and 1/2 hours and will cost about 50quid. i got a tyer specialist to fit mine. its really not that hard if you have a ramp, then you can come tomorrow and you have you car for the rest of the weekend ~ :afro:
Plus kick off with JBS next week so that when the new one does come, they want to be fitting it F.O.C at the very least.. :angry:

All the Autotech parts are guaranteed for life and so if anything fails they replace and repair for free anyway.

To be fair JBS have been very good until this little blip and the fact that they are at the mercy of the postal system isn't their fault (although getting my hopes up was a bit off!)

JBS have just phoned (message on 121) saying the parts still haven't arrived, but they may have an alternative solution in the meantime! Just trying to get back in touch now!

Going over now - fingers crossed!
Title: Re: Round 2 - broken car!
Post by: john_o on 24 October 2008, 15:03
oh no! hopefully itll be fixed , cos it would be sacriledge for you not to be there ....
Title: Re: Round 2 - broken car!
Post by: Hurdy on 24 October 2008, 16:25
Well,

I'm back, JBS have managed to secure the ARB, so it looks like I'll be there after all...phew!

Time for a quick drink before spilling a bucket of wash over the car!

If you want to know what they have done......let's just say the OEM brackets can be made to fit....funny though...the front ARB has stopped squeaking now!
Title: Re: Round 2 - broken car!
Post by: MAT ed30 on 24 October 2008, 16:40
i thought they would fit as mine fitted and mine are neuspeed  :tongue:
Title: Re: Round 2 - broken car!
Post by: john_o on 24 October 2008, 17:11
i thught they would fit as mine fitted mine and mine are neuspeed

theres a sig quote right there  :grin:

good news john , be good to see how much diff from your JBS figure this dyno value is  :nerd: