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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: sunnylunn on 12 October 2008, 16:12

Title: 19" bbs ch
Post by: sunnylunn on 12 October 2008, 16:12
what effect will 19" wheels have on the ride and handling? i've seen some 19" bbs ch  on ebay for £1379 and am tempted. will they rub on anything in the arches? my wife has trashed 3 pescaras, so i want to take them off and have them properly refurbished  and put them back on when i sell it.
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: 182_blue on 12 October 2008, 16:15
i dont have 19" on the golf (i did on the previous car though) but i imagine (tyre dependant) that they will make it slightly more harsh, and sleeping policeman will bang a bit, other than that you should be ok, and there wont be any rubbing
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: BobbyT on 12 October 2008, 16:17
i ran 18's on the bora and now have 19's on my vxr and tbh they seem about the same, the turning circle seems pritty bad on the vxr, not sure if this is down to the larger wheels  :smiley:
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: bacillus on 12 October 2008, 16:57
the turning circle seems pritty bad on the vxr, not sure if this is down to the larger wheels  :smiley:
This is down to the car and not the wheels.
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: ukdub on 12 October 2008, 23:43
I am running BBS CH wheels in 19".  The ride hasn't changed much and there is no rubbing at all.  The only thing is that I now understeer more than on the 18"s.  Saying that on a day to day basis, this isn't a problem.  I hope to change that though with KW v3's and a Quaife ATB and possibly uprated ARB's.  Not that all that is needed :smiley:
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: sunnylunn on 13 October 2008, 07:50
i thought it would have a bit more front end bite with the 19"s not less. what tyres do you have?
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: 182_blue on 13 October 2008, 08:12
I am running BBS CH wheels in 19".  The ride hasn't changed much and there is no rubbing at all.  The only thing is that I now understeer more than on the 18"s.  Saying that on a day to day basis, this isn't a problem.  I hope to change that though with KW v3's and a Quaife ATB and possibly uprated ARB's.  Not that all that is needed :smiley:


did you mean 18's
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: davefish on 13 October 2008, 09:06
To the OP, I think the listings on eBay are by PW Motorsport? If so, I have just bought a set of 19" BBS CH's from them and I can tell you that Phillip (main man) is a pleasure to deal with. My wheels came from Germany in 4 days and they're being fitted later today!

To help you out (possibly). I have experienced the difference between 215/40/18 Dunlop Sport Maxx and 235/35/19 Michelin Pilot Sport 2 in my R32. I found there was much more grip with the latter. Once the PS2's had a hundred miles or so on them, I can honestly say I was amazed by how much grip they provided. I’m not sure whether this was due to the extra half inch of road contact, the lower profile, the tyre design, a lighter alloy or a combination of all four but the cornering capability rose significantly. I could carry at least 5 mph more speed through corners before loss of traction occurred which is astonishing in my opinion. The ride was a little firmer but that’s a good thing as there was more information coming through the steering wheel. Road noise was up ever so slightly but it wasn't intrusive.

Hope that helps, here’s a few pics from Friday (they look even better in person, you won’t regret it).


(http://www.aylis.com/temp/bbsch06.jpg)

(http://www.aylis.com/temp/bbsch07.jpg)

(http://www.aylis.com/temp/bbsch08.jpg)
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: 182_blue on 13 October 2008, 09:29
i concur, Phillip from PW motorsport is brilliant, and there really is nothing like getting a boxed set of BBS through the post  :cool:

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y8/182_blue/IMG_0824.jpg)
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: bacillus on 13 October 2008, 09:39
i concur, Phillip from PW motorsport is brilliant, and there really is nothing like getting a boxed set of BBS through the post  :cool:

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y8/182_blue/IMG_0824.jpg)
Aren't those 18s?
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: 182_blue on 13 October 2008, 09:41
i concur, Phillip from PW motorsport is brilliant, and there really is nothing like getting a boxed set of BBS through the post  :cool:

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y8/182_blue/IMG_0824.jpg)
Aren't those 18s?


^^nope, 19"
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: T88OMM on 13 October 2008, 10:15
^^ Such a nice wheel the CK, especially in the anthracite finish!! You not fancy another set 182 for the ED? These are at the top of my list when I can finally afford to change my wheels!  :smiley:
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: sunnylunn on 13 October 2008, 10:58
those look lush, my dunlop sh!tmaxx are needing replacing so i may have to get the credit card out for those 19"s with a nice set of ps2 to go with them. i'll get my 18" pescaras made nice and shiny again and put them back on at selling time. do i need to get an alignment check done when i go to the 19"s?
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: 182_blue on 13 October 2008, 11:34
^^ Such a nice wheel the CK, especially in the anthracite finish!! You not fancy another set 182 for the ED? These are at the top of my list when I can finally afford to change my wheels!  :smiley:

I have been tempted, but 19's were a little harsher on the other car, and the ed30 is bad enough without addding to the problem  :grin:,  also 18's look to small in the CK's too imo as the design of the wheel makes it look smaller, something to do with the full middle part and the spokes finishing away from the outside edge
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: martininwillerby on 13 October 2008, 15:13
A little firmer ride IMO...

I was after 'The look' more than 'The ride'.....

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/martininwillerby/22052008295.jpg)

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/martininwillerby/22052008297.jpg)

Martininwillerby


Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: neg on 13 October 2008, 15:15
If your looking for replacement wheels it would be rude not to opt for 19's  :grin:
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: BobbyT on 13 October 2008, 17:44
the turning circle seems pritty bad on the vxr, not sure if this is down to the larger wheels  :smiley:
This is down to the car and not the wheels.

cool, wasnt sure  :smiley:
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: davefish on 13 October 2008, 22:56
Had them fitted today, very pleased  :smiley:

(http://www.aylis.com/temp/bbsch10.jpg)
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: jv on 13 October 2008, 22:59
and looking superb :cool:
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: gazbutmk5gti on 13 October 2008, 23:00
lovely, then again I am biased :laugh:

(http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii105/gazbut72/Image015.jpg)

sorry about the quality, phone pic :drool:
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: Top Cat on 13 October 2008, 23:05
Had them fitted today, very pleased  :smiley:

(http://www.aylis.com/temp/bbsch10.jpg)

                      Beautiful.  :cool:
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: john_o on 13 October 2008, 23:07
looking awesome davefish (did the Morr GB fall thru?)

and Gaz , did you used to own an ED30 , shame you had to 'downgrade' to an S3  :smug:
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: gazbutmk5gti on 13 October 2008, 23:08
I know, lifes tough isn't it, I'll cope :smiley:
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: davefish on 13 October 2008, 23:23
Thanks for the comments guys.

John_o, Morr emailed me the other day. My contact is confirming with the factory about a schedule for the R32/GTI at the moment! VS8's are still in the pipeline, they would be my summer wheels ;-)
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: pw motorsport on 14 October 2008, 08:06
Some nice pic`s there lads.

Thanks for the continued support.

Philip
P W Motorsport Ltd
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: Saint Steve on 14 October 2008, 12:55
Had them fitted today, very pleased  :smiley:

(http://www.aylis.com/temp/bbsch10.jpg)

A blue edition 30 lookie likey in blue??? !!  :wink:, only playing, that looks Mint, fancy a swop dave!  :smiley:
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: T88OMM on 14 October 2008, 13:52
lovely, then again I am biased :laugh:

(http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii105/gazbut72/Image015.jpg)

sorry about the quality, phone pic :drool:

Hurts me to see that Gaz  :cry: Gorgeous car that was! The S3 is a very nice replacement though  :smiley:
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: Greenouse on 14 October 2008, 14:04
Had them fitted today, very pleased  :smiley:

(http://www.aylis.com/temp/bbsch10.jpg)

Lookin  :cool: Dave! Lookin forward to seeing those bad boys in the flesh  :wink:
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: carl1 on 14 October 2008, 15:41
Your car always looks mint Dave. P.s always read your R32 blog on R32oc,makes me want to get one again when i read it,especialy in that blue  :cool:
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: carl1 on 14 October 2008, 15:43
I think it wants lowering a bit now tho
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: davefish on 14 October 2008, 19:25
Thanks again ;-)

Phil, if fuel prices and car tax keep rising I might just accept that offer!

Greenouse, touché, looking forward to seeing your car chap.

Carl1, glad you're reading the blog hehe. I agree it needs a drop (KW V3 or Bilstein PSS10) but I'm bankrupt now!

Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: MAT ed30 on 14 October 2008, 19:37
they look spot on Dave  :cool: i knew they would
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: BobbyT on 14 October 2008, 21:49
Had them fitted today, very pleased  :smiley:

(http://www.aylis.com/temp/bbsch10.jpg)

very nice  :cool: you made a good choice
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: Rhyso on 14 October 2008, 21:56
Had them fitted today, very pleased  :smiley:

(http://www.aylis.com/temp/bbsch10.jpg)

 :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:

 :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:

that is superb  :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: hufcforpromotion on 14 October 2008, 22:30
Very nice! Had a set on my edition 30!
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: davefish on 14 October 2008, 23:04
Thanks. It's dark by the time I get home but I should have some more photos over the weekend. Including a few snaps of my newly fitted Milltek exhaust :evil:

Ps. Sorry to the OP for hijacking a bit. Hopefully the pics will help you reach a decision. If you buy them from PW Motorsport I reckon Philip owes me £50 ;-)
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: ukdub on 15 October 2008, 09:21
i thought it would have a bit more front end bite with the 19"s not less. what tyres do you have?

I am running BBS CH wheels in 19".  The ride hasn't changed much and there is no rubbing at all.  The only thing is that I now understeer more than on the 18"s.  Saying that on a day to day basis, this isn't a problem.  I hope to change that though with KW v3's and a Quaife ATB and possibly uprated ARB's.  Not that all that is needed :smiley:


did you mean 18's


I have toyo proxy tr-1's on the 19"'s
Yes I ment 18".  They where the Monza 2's

The thing is when EVO mag did a tyre test quite a few months ago,  they found the GTI on 17" wheels lapped 2 seconds faster than on the 18" wheels.
Doesn't look good for the 19"s on the track at least.
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: gazbutmk5gti on 15 October 2008, 12:47
I have a couple of T1-r's with 5mm of tread left goin cheap if your interested pm if you want :smiley:
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: joesgti on 15 October 2008, 12:53
looking nice there dave fish, if i was getting some 19s thow the would have to be lm reps  :drool: :drool:
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: Gene Hunt. on 17 October 2008, 08:56
what effect will 19" wheels have on the ride and handling? i've seen some 19" bbs ch  on ebay for £1379 and am tempted. will they rub on anything in the arches? my wife has trashed 3 pescaras, so i want to take them off and have them properly refurbished  and put them back on when i sell it.
...........they look mint mate BUT !!!!!!!!!!!you'r wife has trashed 3 of you'r pescaras!!!! & you then spend £1379 on wheel's that are an inch bigger!!.If my wife curbed my alloys it would be a change to 10'' alloys with 300 profile tyres to protect against curb damage. :grin: :wink:
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: VeeDubDan on 17 October 2008, 09:08
The CH is the perfect wheel for the MK5.  This is certainly the wheels I intend to get.  They are well made, look good, fairly easy to clean and not impossible to refurb!  :cool: :cool: :cool:
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: davefish on 19 October 2008, 19:17
A few more pics for you sunnylunn  :cool:

(http://www.aylis.com/temp/bbsch11.jpg)

(http://www.aylis.com/temp/bbsch12.jpg)

(http://www.aylis.com/temp/bbsch13.jpg)

(http://www.aylis.com/temp/bbsch14.jpg)
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: MAT ed30 on 19 October 2008, 19:20
got to say fella that looks the dogs nuts  :evil: and love the milly
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: davefish on 19 October 2008, 19:28
got to say fella that looks the dogs nuts  :evil: and love the milly
Thanks Mat. Do you fancy coming to the Weston Performance RR Day (http://www.r32oc.com/southern/6730-mkv-meet-weston-performance-rr-day-sat-1st-nov-08-a.html (http://www.r32oc.com/southern/6730-mkv-meet-weston-performance-rr-day-sat-1st-nov-08-a.html)) on the 1st of Nov? There are a few guys from this forum already paid up. Maybe see what the dyno makes of your S3 intercooler! :evil:
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: MAT ed30 on 19 October 2008, 20:07
got to say fella that looks the dogs nuts  :evil: and love the milly
Thanks Mat. Do you fancy coming to the Weston Performance RR Day (http://www.r32oc.com/southern/6730-mkv-meet-weston-performance-rr-day-sat-1st-nov-08-a.html (http://www.r32oc.com/southern/6730-mkv-meet-weston-performance-rr-day-sat-1st-nov-08-a.html)) on the 1st of Nov? There are a few guys from this forum already paid up. Maybe see what the dyno makes of your S3 intercooler! :evil:

i am going on the prosport rollers this weekend but might be up for the other one as well
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: WhiteGTI on 19 October 2008, 20:15
Great looking R32.

I am not jealous at all  :undecided:
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: sixpot on 19 October 2008, 21:10
Good choice of wheel, nice and easy too clean too. I ran them on my previous car.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/sixpot/CIMG0336.jpg)
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: E30M3 on 19 October 2008, 21:12
Those cars with CH's are gorgeous !  :kiss:  :cool:
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: Martz on 19 October 2008, 21:13
A few more pics for you sunnylunn  :cool:
(http://www.aylis.com/temp/bbsch11.jpg)


Looks spot on! :cool:
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: T88OMM on 20 October 2008, 14:40
Those cars with CH's are gorgeous !  :kiss:  :cool:

I am eagerly awaiting to see what yours looks like E30 when you have had yours put on!  :drool:
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: davefish on 27 October 2008, 18:55
More spamming... A few pics after a good clean/polish on Sunday :wink:

(http://www.aylis.com/temp/bbsclean_1.jpg)

(http://www.aylis.com/temp/bbsclean_2.jpg)

(http://www.aylis.com/temp/bbsclean_3.jpg)

(http://www.aylis.com/temp/bbsclean_4.jpg)

(http://www.aylis.com/temp/bbsclean_5.jpg)

(http://www.aylis.com/temp/bbsclean_6.jpg)
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: Top Cat on 27 October 2008, 19:15
There is no question i am most definitely jelous (http://www.smileys.me.uk/smileys/Blue/zzjawwdrop.gif) (http://www.smileys.me.uk/)
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: WhiteGTI on 27 October 2008, 19:16
Yeah, that is quite stunning!!
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: john_o on 27 October 2008, 19:22
pic whore  :grin:  :cool:
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: Saint Steve on 27 October 2008, 19:25
Uncalled for davefish!!!! , take your Gorgeous R32 outa here!!!!, you will make all of us turn our backs on GTi's if more of that stuff posted!.That colour is

Stunning when glimming.

Right off to R32oc to spam some Red Edition30 !!













Quality Dave  :cool:, for once youve made Topcat speechless. That deserves an award in itself  :wink:
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: RedRobin on 27 October 2008, 19:55
....

Those BBS CH's are absolutely the very best alloy to have on a Mk5 R32 imo. They are classic and have the same 'spirit' as the originals but are far better and easier to clean. The stock alloys look far too fussy.

Uber cool plate as well! :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: Greenouse on 27 October 2008, 20:19
pic whore  :grin:  :cool:

What he said  :grin:

I hope she's nice and clean for me to drool over on Saturday Dave  :wink:
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: burnett_gti on 27 October 2008, 20:37
well love that wheels wont them for my golf but i bought my gti with 19" wheels and they scrapping when you go over a bump on the road but remember i stay in scotland and the roads are not good up hear
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: davefish on 27 October 2008, 22:52
Thanks for all the comments! To hopefully make people even more jealous haha... I really like the second pic so decided to do a bit of Photoshopping with it  :grin:

(http://www.aylis.com/temp/bbsclean_8.jpg)
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: NEWEY on 28 October 2008, 08:34
that r32 is stunning  :cool:
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: RedRobin on 28 October 2008, 09:34
....

I just noticed - You've modded the upper grill slats to black - Soooo much better, it's what I would have done with a Mk5 R32 too (and the BBS CH's) :afro:

Hope to see you Saturday at Weston, all being well.
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: joesgti on 28 October 2008, 09:55
Nice lookin R!!  :drool: :drool: making me want one  :sad:

need a little drop thow :afro:
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: WhiteGTI on 28 October 2008, 10:00
Has it got a different lower splitter on it??
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: davefish on 28 October 2008, 23:22
RR… yes the slats have been changed to black. I think it gives it a sportier look (which the R32 needs!). Hope to see your beast on Sat! WhiteGTI… yes I have an OSIR front lip and rear valance in matt carbonfibre.

Current Mods: Haldex Controller, HPA Short Shifter, Focal VR3 Speakers, OSIR Front & Rear, V6 FFS, 19" BBS CH, Milltek Exhaust

Future Mods: ARB's Coilovers, Cams, CAI, Remap, OSIR rear spoiler plus a few other bits and bobs ;-)

Thanks again all.
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: RedRobin on 29 October 2008, 09:44
....

davefish - On your future mods you'll find that suspension upgrades make a difference. If KW coilovers, the V2's will be easier to set up than the V3's.
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: davefish on 29 October 2008, 19:04
....

davefish - On your future mods you'll find that suspension upgrades make a difference. If KW coilovers, the V2's will be easier to set up than the V3's.
I was planning on either V3's or PSS10's. I always let the tuners install/setup my mods as I'm a mechanical dunce. My understanding is that V2's do not have adjustable compression. Anyone care to enlighten me as to what that means in terms of setup preference, ride/handling (sorry)?
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: RedRobin on 29 October 2008, 22:25
....

In broad terms, the KW V3's and Bilsteins (the Rolls-Royce of systems) are best suited for setting up for the track but are tricky to set up in the sweet spot, exactly because of all the variables.

You can partly compensate for what V2's don't have by your selection of spring rating but it needs experienced expertise imo (why I'm leaving it to VW Racing for mine!).

I'm like you - Dare I say a bit of a girl when it comes doing stuff to cars myself. In fact I know a few girls who know far more than I do. I'd rather find and pay experts.

What works for track doesn't necessarily work best for fast road use and vica-versa, so it's always a compromise unless you decide strictly for one or the other. Some people do their suspension for purely cosmetic reasons but that's not my scene and it can be one problem after another - Camber, uneven tyre wear, wheel arch rubbing, hopping, harshness, etc, but each to their own.

APS have experience in setting up Mk5 R32's and Ed is a very helpful guy - Go to my home http://biali.ritey.com/web/index.php (http://biali.ritey.com/web/index.php) and click on APS under our Affiliates.

:afro:
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: martininwillerby on 30 October 2008, 15:51
Hi all....

If your thinking about coil-overs as a upgrade then here's a good post to view...

http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25828

Hope it helps

Martininwillerby
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: tonyh on 31 October 2008, 07:47
dave,
the wheels look gr8  :cool: interesting that bbs still seem to be offering these rims as  i   thought they  had gone bust recently .. they don't offer the 18 " ferrari version anymore

here's the original version , btw  :wink:

(http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/6950/dsc00944205b800x6005d20co3.jpg)
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: pw motorsport on 31 October 2008, 10:11
BBS are trading after last years takeover.

The Ferrari Challange wheels in your picture are available, the fitment is 5x108 8.5x18  front 10.5x18 rear. 19" for the 430 is also available.

360 wheels £2695 a set available from stock.

Philip
PW Motorsport Ltd
01437 563793
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: T88OMM on 31 October 2008, 10:26
dave,
the wheels look gr8  :cool: interesting that bbs still seem to be offering these rims as  i   thought they  had gone bust recently .. they don't offer the 18 " ferrari version anymore

here's the original version , btw  :wink:

(http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/6950/dsc00944205b800x6005d20co3.jpg)

Im sure I saw that blue Scuderia Tony in the current issue of Evo!?, recognise the plate   :cool:
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: tonyh on 31 October 2008, 11:14

Im sure I saw that blue Scuderia Tony in the current issue of Evo!?, recognise the plate   :cool:

hi m8

yes you did, this is ferrari gb's demo

BBS are trading after last years takeover.

The Ferrari Challange wheels in your picture are available, the fitment is 5x108 8.5x18  front 10.5x18 rear. 19" for the 430 is also available.

360 wheels £2695 a set available from stock.

Philip
PW Motorsport Ltd
01437 563793

thanks philip, i stand corrected   :smiley: the ones on mine are oem 19 " jobbies
Title: Re: 19" bbs ch
Post by: candy turbo on 01 November 2008, 18:01
Had them fitted today, very pleased  :smiley:

(http://www.aylis.com/temp/bbsch10.jpg)
this car looks absolutly awesome mate if you fancy an ed 30 pm me ????  are you in leicestershire ? sure i ve seen your plate ???