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Title: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: bobbarley on 11 October 2008, 20:11
Quick question on the Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe.  Can you pop one of these bad boys between the engine and the normal exhaust, or do you need a Milltek exhaust at the same time?

Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: richw911 on 11 October 2008, 20:13
Quick question on the Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe.  Can you pop one of these bad boys between the engine and the normal exhaust, or do you need a Milltek exhaust at the same time?



Need a milltek, also if it did fit there would be no piont as the rest of the exhaust is  restrictive.
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: bobbarley on 11 October 2008, 20:17
Fair play, just wondered.  Can't afford it all in one go, so was hoping it could be done in stages.  I really like the R32 exhaust, but am thinking it's not worth the extra £100 over the 4 motion style exhaust :)
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: richw911 on 11 October 2008, 20:20
Fair play, just wondered.  Can't afford it all in one go, so was hoping it could be done in stages.  I really like the R32 exhaust, but am thinking it's not worth the extra £100 over the 4 motion style exhaust :)

Yeah go for the V6 4 mo bob you know it makes sense  :evil:
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: bobbarley on 11 October 2008, 20:21
Because that's what you have? :)  Guessing the garage can just cut a bit out of the rear balance for the exhaust to sit?
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: richw911 on 11 October 2008, 20:24
Because that's what you have? :)  Guessing the garage can just cut a bit out of the rear balance for the exhaust to sit?

Yeah and IMO the R32 exhaust only looks good on an R32 with all the kit.

Yeah the bit is there ready to be cut. Best bet is to take it to someone who has done them before like awesome GTI etc.  :wink:
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: ABOO on 11 October 2008, 20:24
IMO R32 pipe should be £200 cheaper :wink:
That pipe should only be on that car. Stick with twin rolled or discreet as I'm gonna, less is more.

I know it might seem a blow not been able to put on individually, but think how much difference it'll make when turbo-back goes on :smiley:
Then stage 2 software :evil:
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: Rhyso on 11 October 2008, 20:26
you can fit it to the original exhaust

well on the TDI downpipe you can as Milltek supply a reducer

the most restrictive part is your downpipe but you'll probably get a better deal by purchasing the whole system in one go

most Milltek dealers will do free fitting  :smiley:
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: bobbarley on 11 October 2008, 20:26
Because that's what you have? :)  Guessing the garage can just cut a bit out of the rear balance for the exhaust to sit?

Yeah and IMO the R32 exhaust only looks good on an R32 with all the kit.

Yeah the bit is there ready to be cut. Best bet is to take it to someone who has done them before like awesome GTI etc.  :wink:

Absolutely, Awesome all the way for any significant parts going onto the car.  Plus I love the fact I can get parts cheaper elsewhere, and still take them there to be fitted.  They have a BRILLIANT lounge area you can wait in whilst they do the work!

most Milltek dealers will do free fitting  :smiley:

Really?  Know any?
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: Rhyso on 11 October 2008, 20:29
Really?  Know any?

no good for you but JKM in Portsmouth do free fitting on the car back and if i purchased the downpipe they would only charge me £15 to get that fitted though if i got the whole system they may do it for nowt  :wink:

i'm considering using them when i get mine fitted  :smiley:
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: bobbarley on 11 October 2008, 20:30
Because they know you?
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: Rhyso on 11 October 2008, 20:32
Because they know you?

nope its what they offer :smiley:

have a look on their website

http://www.jkm.org.uk/
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: bobbarley on 11 October 2008, 20:37
Well, if you choose supply only on the site the parts are cheaper, so they do charge for fitting, but it's a rather low amount!! Yeah 10% off for supply only, nice tactic ;)
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: Rhyso on 11 October 2008, 20:40
Well, if you choose supply only on the site the parts are cheaper, so they do charge for fitting, but it's a rather low amount!! Yeah 10% off for supply only, nice tactic ;)

exhausts are fairly easy items to swap hence the low labour charge  :smiley:
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: bobbarley on 11 October 2008, 20:43
Yeah?  I assumed it'd be a big job for some reason.  Awesome is about £699 for the downpipe and exhaust, working off the assumption their website prices don't include VAT.
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: Rhyso on 11 October 2008, 20:45
Yeah?  I assumed it'd be a big job for some reason.  Awesome is about £699 for the downpipe and exhaust, working off the assumption their website prices don't include VAT.

ouch thats expensive - joys of owning a petrol eh  :tongue:
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: bobbarley on 11 October 2008, 20:47
Sure I can get that price down if I shop around....

Oh well, new control arms, front ARB, wheels, tyres and springs needed first :)
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: TurboBeast on 12 October 2008, 10:16
Yeah?  I assumed it'd be a big job for some reason.  Awesome is about £699 for the downpipe and exhaust, working off the assumption their website prices don't include VAT.

ouch thats expensive - joys of owning a petrol eh  :tongue:

I always thought the 1.8T and 1.9 TDI aftermarket exhausts were the same part numbers?
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: richw911 on 12 October 2008, 10:20
Yeah?  I assumed it'd be a big job for some reason.  Awesome is about £699 for the downpipe and exhaust, working off the assumption their website prices don't include VAT.

ouch thats expensive - joys of owning a petrol eh  :tongue:

I always thought the 1.8T and 1.9 TDI aftermarket exhausts were the same part numbers?

Thay are except the downpipe. The TDI downpipe is about half the price of the petrol  :smiley:
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: TurboBeast on 12 October 2008, 10:26
Yeah?  I assumed it'd be a big job for some reason.  Awesome is about £699 for the downpipe and exhaust, working off the assumption their website prices don't include VAT.

ouch thats expensive - joys of owning a petrol eh  :tongue:

I always thought the 1.8T and 1.9 TDI aftermarket exhausts were the same part numbers?

Thay are except the downpipe. The TDI downpipe is about half the price of the petrol  :smiley:

Ah yes that would indeed make sense.
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: Rhyso on 12 October 2008, 12:58
Yeah?  I assumed it'd be a big job for some reason.  Awesome is about £699 for the downpipe and exhaust, working off the assumption their website prices don't include VAT.

ouch thats expensive - joys of owning a petrol eh  :tongue:

I always thought the 1.8T and 1.9 TDI aftermarket exhausts were the same part numbers?

Thay are except the downpipe. The TDI downpipe is about half the price of the petrol  :smiley:

Ah yes that would indeed make sense.

Approx £140 for the TDI downpipe  :smug:
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: richw911 on 12 October 2008, 13:02
Yeah?  I assumed it'd be a big job for some reason.  Awesome is about £699 for the downpipe and exhaust, working off the assumption their website prices don't include VAT.

ouch thats expensive - joys of owning a petrol eh  :tongue:

I always thought the 1.8T and 1.9 TDI aftermarket exhausts were the same part numbers?

Thay are except the downpipe. The TDI downpipe is about half the price of the petrol  :smiley:

Ah yes that would indeed make sense.

Approx £140 for the TDI downpipe  :smug:
Indeed you ordered it yet then........  :evil:
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: Rhyso on 12 October 2008, 13:04
Approx £140 for the TDI downpipe  :smug:
Indeed you ordered it yet then........  :evil:
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skint mate  :sad:  going to get the full system in one go rather than bits and bobs

need to find my missing BHP first - off out in a bit to do some more data logging :afro:
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: richw911 on 12 October 2008, 13:05
Approx £140 for the TDI downpipe  :smug:
Indeed you ordered it yet then........  :evil:

skint mate  :sad:  going to get the full system in one go rather than bits and bobs

need to find my missing BHP first - off out in a bit to do some more data logging :afro:
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Ah ok sounds like a plan :afro:

Hope you sort her soon   :wink:
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: bobbarley on 12 October 2008, 15:08
God, those dervs save the pennies everywhere!!
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: richw911 on 12 October 2008, 15:10
God, those dervs save the pennies everywhere!!
Indeed
When you getting one then bob?

Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: bobbarley on 12 October 2008, 15:17
When I'm a very old man the way things are going.  I've got my new front Eibach ARB on the way once Eibach get their act together and deliver me the correct one  :rolleyes:  Then I need to buy new control arms, and get Awesome to fit it all.  Any help on sourcing some cheap control arms would be appreciated.  THEN I need to get new tyres, that's about £400.  At some point springs are going to come into play, just some Eibachs for a 40mm drop more than likely.  Then the next big thing will be the downpipe and exhaust, followed by a k03s turbo when I have the pennies.  Shall get a pipercross panel filter when I get paid probably.

I also want a few none performance parts, like a proper rear spoiler, US spec rear lights,  etc etc.
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: Rhyso on 12 October 2008, 15:20
£400 for tyres??  :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

i can get Eagle F1's for around £250 fitted in 18's  :wink:
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: bobbarley on 12 October 2008, 15:21
£400 for tyres??  :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

i can get Eagle F1's for around £250 fitted in 18's  :wink:

Where from?  I've look EVERYWHERE!  Blackcircles, etyres, kwikfit, all sorts.
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: Rhyso on 12 October 2008, 15:22
£400 for tyres??  :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

i can get Eagle F1's for around £250 fitted in 18's  :wink:

Where from?  I've look EVERYWHERE!  Blackcircles, etyres, kwikfit, all sorts.

local tyre place opposite where i work  :tongue:
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: bobbarley on 12 October 2008, 15:22
See, I can't, so it's £400 :(
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: richw911 on 12 October 2008, 15:23
225/40/18 for £83 each fitted  :laugh:
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: bobbarley on 12 October 2008, 15:25
225/40/18 for £83 each fitted  :laugh:

SHUT UP, don't make me key you!!!!  Cheapest I can find is £102 each fitted :(
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: richw911 on 12 October 2008, 15:25
225/40/18 for £83 each fitted  :laugh:

SHUT UP!!!!  Cheapest I can find is £102 each fitted :(
Yep thats for Good year F1's aswell  :laugh:
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: bobbarley on 12 October 2008, 15:26
See, I don't know anyone who knows someone, or know a good local garage.
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: richw911 on 12 October 2008, 15:28
See, I don't know anyone who knows someone, or know a good local garage.

Get the yellow pages and ring all the little tyre garages local to you you will find a deal.

Or try
http://www.blackcircles.com/  OR

http://www.mytyres.co.uk/start.html
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: Rhyso on 12 October 2008, 15:30
local fitting place is your best bet Bob - look for ones without fancy signs etc as thats a sure sign they charge a premium - got to pay for their shiney workshop etc somehow
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: bobbarley on 12 October 2008, 15:33
Worried about my wheels getting scratched when they fit them  :undecided:
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: bobbarley on 12 October 2008, 15:33
Blackcircles
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y114/bobbarley/random/blackcircles.jpg)

eTyres
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y114/bobbarley/random/etyres.jpg)
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: richw911 on 12 October 2008, 15:34
Worried about my wheels getting scratched when they fit them  :undecided:
What those old wheels  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: richw911 on 12 October 2008, 15:35
Blackcircles
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y114/bobbarley/random/blackcircles.jpg)

eTyres
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y114/bobbarley/random/etyres.jpg)
Fook that!!!

As rhys says find a little garage with no bling  :wink:
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: Rhyso on 12 October 2008, 15:39
he't got some shiney 18's Rich but hasn't told anyone  :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: richw911 on 12 October 2008, 15:40
he't got some shiney 18's Rich but hasn't told anyone  :lipsrsealed:

Really bob pic please sir....... NOW  :laugh:
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: bobbarley on 12 October 2008, 15:44
Shush, both of you :)  I couldn't sell them in the end, so they're being kept!
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: ben1.8T on 13 October 2008, 08:36
To fit the 4 motion style exhuast you need to fit the 4 motion rear valence dont you?
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: Rhyso on 13 October 2008, 08:57
To fit the 4 motion style exhuast you need to fit the 4 motion rear valence dont you?

heard rumours this is the case
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: ben1.8T on 13 October 2008, 09:05
To fit the 4 motion style exhuast you need to fit the 4 motion rear valence dont you?

heard rumours this is the case

Yeah thats what I thought having mine fitted the week after next works out about £50 for the rear valence.
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: richw911 on 13 October 2008, 09:37
To fit the 4 motion style exhuast you need to fit the 4 motion rear valence dont you?

heard rumours this is the case

Yeah thats what I thought having mine fitted the week after next works out about £50 for the rear valence.

Yep you will have to cut out a metal piece aswell, its already there ( From the factory If the car was going to be a 4 mo) just need to be cut.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: ben1.8T on 13 October 2008, 10:04
To fit the 4 motion style exhuast you need to fit the 4 motion rear valence dont you?

heard rumours this is the case

Yeah thats what I thought having mine fitted the week after next works out about £50 for the rear valence.

Yep you will have to cut out a metal piece aswell, its already there ( From the factory If the car was going to be a 4 mo) just need to be cut.  :smiley:

AMD are fitting mine so they will sort out what needs doing.  :cool:
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: richw911 on 13 October 2008, 10:08
To fit the 4 motion style exhuast you need to fit the 4 motion rear valence dont you?

heard rumours this is the case

Yeah thats what I thought having mine fitted the week after next works out about £50 for the rear valence.

Yep you will have to cut out a metal piece aswell, its already there ( From the factory If the car was going to be a 4 mo) just need to be cut.  :smiley:

AMD are fitting mine so they will sort out what needs doing.  :cool:

Indeed. Best to go to someone who had done them before IMO :afro:
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: Ivor Mk4 Turbo on 13 October 2008, 13:28
To fit the 4 motion style exhuast you need to fit the 4 motion rear valence dont you?

heard rumours this is the case

Yeah thats what I thought having mine fitted the week after next works out about £50 for the rear valence.

Yep you will have to cut out a metal piece aswell, its already there ( From the factory If the car was going to be a 4 mo) just need to be cut.  :smiley:

I take it you're talking about that 'L' bracket which holds the bumper on??

It doesn't have to be cut - I just bent it upwards a bit.  It probably doesn't look as good as if it were completely removed, but I can bend it back down when/if I ever want to put the original valance back on. :afro:
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: Rhyso on 13 October 2008, 13:41
is there a great deal of difference between the 4mo valence and the original valence i.e the depth of it, does it sit closer to the road

been thinking about an Anni exhaust but perhaps cutting the original valence to make it fit rather than pay silly money lol
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: richw911 on 13 October 2008, 14:09
is there a great deal of difference between the 4mo valence and the original valence i.e the depth of it, does it sit closer to the road

been thinking about an Anni exhaust but perhaps cutting the original valence to make it fit rather than pay silly money lol

No its much the same TBH  :smiley:
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: Ivor Mk4 Turbo on 13 October 2008, 14:10
is there a great deal of difference between the 4mo valence and the original valence i.e the depth of it, does it sit closer to the road

been thinking about an Anni exhaust but perhaps cutting the original valence to make it fit rather than pay silly money lol

It probably won't be that long until I try my Anni back-box with my 4M valance, if you want to hang on??

(I'd of thought you would have tried it by now, though!! :tongue: :grin:)
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: ben1.8T on 13 October 2008, 14:13
heard rumours this is the case


AMD seem like the sort of place I want working on my car heard alot of good feedback about them.  :cool:
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: richw911 on 13 October 2008, 14:14
is there a great deal of difference between the 4mo valence and the original valence i.e the depth of it, does it sit closer to the road

been thinking about an Anni exhaust but perhaps cutting the original valence to make it fit rather than pay silly money lol

It probably won't be that long until I try my Anni back-box with my 4M valance, if you want to hang on??

(I'd of thought you would have tried it by now, though!! :tongue: :grin:)

Ah would be interesting to know this  :smiley:
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: Rhyso on 13 October 2008, 14:15
is there a great deal of difference between the 4mo valence and the original valence i.e the depth of it, does it sit closer to the road

been thinking about an Anni exhaust but perhaps cutting the original valence to make it fit rather than pay silly money lol

It probably won't be that long until I try my Anni back-box with my 4M valance, if you want to hang on??

(I'd of thought you would have tried it by now, though!! :tongue: :grin:)

can't afford the exhaust at the moment so just trying to decide what style back box i want
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: topher on 13 October 2008, 14:24

It doesn't have to be cut - I just bent it upwards a bit.  It probably doesn't look as good as if it were completely removed, but I can bend it back down when/if I ever want to put the original valance back on. :afro:

i chopped mine down the middle and bent the left half up.. that way you can still bolt the valance back to the support :afro:

edit: found an old pic i took the day it was fitted

(http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~dv8r/golf/under.jpg)
Title: Re: Golf Mk4 1.8T Milltek Hi-flow Catalyst/Downpipe
Post by: Ivor Mk4 Turbo on 13 October 2008, 14:26
The delay is, that I've been waiting for a non-res centre section to come up in the classifieds/ebay as I've been quoted approx. £125 (+ VAT, IIRC) for a custom made straight through centre pipe - So if you see any being advertised, please let me know.......................