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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: Hurdy on 05 October 2008, 15:54
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Here is the graph of Torque/revs as a rough comparison between cars.
Obviously the cars are at various stages of tuneage.
I'll get a power comparison up soon. :smiley:
These are lifted from Awesome GTI RR day and my recent RR day
Vtec - revo
Gaz - APR
Mine - CC
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/hurdy_album/Remapcomparisons.jpg)
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Power comparison up too :smiley:
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/hurdy_album/powercomparisons.jpg)
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Is this a fair comparison seeing that the revo car did not have an uprated fuel pump?
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Is this a fair comparison seeing that the revo car did not have an uprated fuel pump?
You'll have to make your own mind up on that one. :smiley:
There are quite a few things you can make analytical judgements on like:-
Most of the other cars will be faster off the line than mine.
Ben's will most likely be the fastest overall.
Mine holds torque longer.
Mine would only be faster under maximum attack from 5.5k to the redline.
Ergo, fuel pump gives you extra at the top end.
I'm sure other deductions can be brought to play.
Mine has always been lower powered at the bottom end - even when standard against most other ED30's, roughly 15bhp/20lbft :sad: and similarly in other states of mapping, but I can't say that if my car was like the others it would get 345+bhp and 350+lbft can I? Maybe some people would say I could as the dyno was supposed to be reading 3% low :undecided:. Then again we are getting into that mad discussion again :laugh:
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very interesting torque comparisons tho....one being bit less than the others are lower end of the rev range! wonder why they map it like that. i suppose its smoother with no sudden "hit" like the others.
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problem is there Hurdy 2 of the cars are on the same rollers on the same day, then yours is run on a different one, different day. Not really an accurate comparison :smiley:
appreciate the effort you put in though :smiley:
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im finding it hard to see the match the line colours with the key..? is revo the purple? seems low...
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im finding it hard to see the match the line colours with the key..? is revo the purple? seems low...
Revo is the purple line, yes mate..
Revo is just the Stage 1 map, APR and CC have uprated Fuel pump, intake and stage 2+ software (and CC also has FMIC)..
Good effort there though Mr Hurditch :wink:
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nice try hurdy. I think we need all variances on the same RR at the same time :nerd:
From what youve graphed , I dont understand the huge diff at 2500rpm , I can see why a map might reduce the torque levels , but I would still expect it to climb at the same point (you are even under the std car at this point!)
Was your car mapped specifically to avoid low rpm hit for the DSG?
looking at the graph Im surprised the REVO DSG cars dont jutst slip immediately after a remap :evil:
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Was your car mapped specifically to avoid low rpm hit for the DSG?
That is what I asked them for, but I didn't realise till I did the comparison that it was backed off quite that much :shocked:
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Here is the graph of Torque/revs as a rough comparison between cars.
Obviously the cars are at various stages of tuneage.
I'll get a power comparison up soon. :smiley:
These are lifted from Awesome GTI RR day and my recent RR day
Vtec - revo
Gaz - APR
Mine - CC
Can you update the above owners with other variables too? Important ones to list are:
- total current mileage
- inlet mods (filters, induction kits, etc)
- zorst mods (standard, cat-back, turbo-back, manufacturer, custom build)
- fueling hardware mods (injectors, fuel pumps)
- internals mods (cams, porting, valves, etc)
- petrol RON/brand (99RON - Tesco99/Shell V-Power, 97RON - BP Ultimate, Total Excillium, Esso whatever, Sainsbury SU, or standard 95 unleaded)
- runing in style (was is thrashed from day one, treated with kid gloves, or followed my "stepped" aproach)
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/hurdy_album/Remapcomparisons.jpg)
Am I going colour blind - I can't tie in the key on the right to the curves on the graph! :undecided:
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i have same problem. lolz
if revo is purple, is that on a gti rather than ed30?
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i have same problem. lolz
if revo is purple, is that on a gti rather than ed30?
all 3 are ED30's.
remapped 200ps GTI won't make anything near 300bhp!
the line out on its own is a standard ED30.
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mines the std car I think so I can answer
total current mileage : either 6 or 8k miles
inlet mods (filters, induction kits, etc) : std
zorst mods (standard, cat-back, turbo-back, manufacturer, custom build) :std
fueling hardware mods (injectors, fuel pumps): std
internals mods (cams, porting, valves, etc) : std
petrol RON/brand : (99RON - Tesco99)
runing in style : (stepped approach as much as possible , erring on the enthusiastic side)
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Mine's the Pink (Revo) car..
Mileage : 5k
Inlet mods (filters, induction kits, etc) : std
Zorst mods : Milltek TBE (GTI not Ed30 model, so 2.75" DP, not 3")
fueling hardware mods (injectors, fuel pumps): std
internals mods (cams, porting, valves, etc) : std
petrol RON/brand : (99RON - Tesco99)
runing in style : Steady for first 100-200 miles, then driven as normal (always warmed up properly though).
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Mine was the APR :cry:
Mine's the light blue car..
Mileage : 6k
Inlet mods (filters, induction kits, etc) : carbonio, pipercross
Zorst mods : Milltek TBE ( Ed30 model )
fueling hardware mods (injectors, fuel pumps): APR HPFP
internals mods (cams, porting, valves, etc) : std
petrol RON/brand : V-power
runing in style : Steady for first 100-200 miles, then driven as normal (always warmed up properly though).
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My mods are in my sig and I have 11k miles on it. :cool:
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so there is two purple lines?? ones pink!! LOL thats why its confusing some people (me!)... but makes sense now..
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
Just realised that I put Revo down as PUrple, when it's the pink line.. Oh the shame... :embarassed: :grin:
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LOL, confusionnnnnnn
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OK can you check mine for me
mines the white car
the black line
mileage 3000
inlet mods none
everything else standard
oh led rears
sticker on ashtray
tesco 99 :wink:
mine tails off almost straight away.
RE-map comparisons
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm104/tomashandmilly/etch-a-sketch.jpg)
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:laugh:
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OK can you check mine for me
mines the white car
the black line
mileage 3000
inlet mods none
everything else standard
oh led rears
sticker on ashtray
tesco 99 :wink:
mine tails off almost straight away.
RE-map comparisons
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm104/tomashandmilly/etch-a-sketch.jpg)
PMSL
Actually, Gary Glitter wants to come back as an Etch a Sketch - so little boys can still fiddle with his knobs! :evil:
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LOL
It's a perfectly healthy graph TC :wink:
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/hurdy_album/etch-a-sketch.jpg)