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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: topher on 05 October 2008, 13:43
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For those who couldn't make it to JKM, or even just want another shot on a different set of DD rollers, Davefish over on the R32 owners club has very kindly agreed to let the MK5 boys of golfgti.co.uk take part in a rolling road dyno shootout at Weston Performance (nr solihull, b'ham) on November 1st.
More information here http://www.r32oc.com/southern/6730-mkv-meet-weston-performance-rr-day-sat-1st-nov-08-a.html#post69354
If you want to attend and put some more light on the remap bhp claims of various tuners then you need to sign up to r32oc.com and post your interest, then call Weston Performance to pay in advance. All the details you need can be found on the link above.
Spectators welcome too of course.
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oooh, might come spectate :smiley:...not much point in getting mine on the rollers its bog standard.
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Nothing wrong with running up a stocker. It can be good confirmation that everything is running as it should, and gives the modified runners something to compare to.
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exactly, JKM weekend has just proved that very point :wink:. Go and do it Edition30!
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Well if we can get at least one Revo'ed and one Standard ED30 along then I will also attend to help put some more figures into the BHP debate.
You are able to represent the standard ED30's Phil? :smiley:
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im working mate that day, shame cus i would of aswell.
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As it's about 5 mins from my house It'd be rude to say no! :smiley:
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As it's about 5 mins from my house It'd be rude to say no! :smiley:
Nice one Greenouse :cool:
So perhaps we could get a runner for each of the major tuners to really put this some light on this??
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As it's about 5 mins from my house It'd be rude to say no! :smiley:
Nice one Greenouse :cool:
So perhaps we could get a runner for each of the major tuners to really put this some light on this??
Light on what? what did I miss? just back from being one of 28 Umpa Lumpa's at Butlins! :grin:
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get reading Nathan!!!! , jkm threads
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I'm working that weekend which is a shame because it's not too far from me and I might have REVO by then. £45 is quite expensive though I think, so even if I was free I'm not sure I'd be prepared to pay that much! (Even though I used a tank of fuel to get to Portsmouth and back :grin:).
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4wd dynos do tend to be more expensive unfortunately :sad:
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get reading Nathan!!!! , jkm threads
Interesting :huh: Better make sure I have my downpipe and cat fitted soon then! :smiley:
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I was meant to be going to this. But may have to pull out as meant to be going to Prosport the sat after and can't really do both.. :sad:
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Ben, get on the Dyno dynamics mate, we wanna see a fast ed30 alongside the R32's, plus the fact you'll get an acurate reading on
dynamics setup.
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hmmm not to far away from me i might come up to have a look as i dont think mine will have enough miles on it to run.
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Ben, get on the Dyno dynamics mate, we wanna see a fast ed30 alongside the R32's, plus the fact you'll get an acurate reading on
dynamics setup.
I'll let you tell Gaz and the boys then.. :huh:
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4wd dynos do tend to be more expensive unfortunately :sad:
Yup, my local charges £70 for his 4wd dyno! :shocked:
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I would seriously be interested, but Solihul is just too far for me to get there!
Ipswich, Peterborough or Cambridge would be much better for us East Anglians stuck out in the sticks!
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I'm going.
Am seeing Revo in next few days to sort my low power which plotted at JKM - We think we know what it is.
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^^^ robin....its not good staying up that late on a school night!! :laugh:
and ben!!!!......you can sod off!! your coming with us boys!!!! :evil:
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Bumpety bump!
Come on boys! Anyone else? even spectators? always good to get together for a chin wag!
Who we got so far Toph? :huh:
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Just you and Robin so far I think. Can we persuade Mark to come along?
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SteveP was on about attending aswell i think
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SteveP was on about attending aswell i think
Indeed I really want to attend, just need to clear some work stuff, I will know for definate by Monday at the latest. :smiley:
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Just you and Robin so far I think. Can we persuade Mark to come along?
I think he's coming but spectating only? :huh:
Unless he gets a remap :evil:
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SteveP was on about attending aswell i think
Indeed I really want to attend, just need to clear some work stuff, I will know for definate by Monday at the latest. :smiley:
Come on Mr PG! :wink: I don't want to be the only ED30 there!
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Come on Mr PG! :wink: I don't want to be the only ED30 there!
True, it would be good for the ED30's to show the R32's a thing or two :wink: :laugh:
Also I have just had confirmation that my remap is being "remapped" at the end of next week so would be good it get it back on some Dynodynamic rollers to compare :smug:
We just need a stock and a Revo'ed ED30 to get some good comparisons now, any other takers ??
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Just you and Robin so far I think. Can we persuade Mark to come along?
I will definately be there as a spectator but as Greeney says I may get it remapped and then get it RR'd!
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Job done, all signed up. :smiley:
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Job done, all signed up. :smiley:
Top man! Should be a good meet! :smiley:
Just you and Robin so far I think. Can we persuade Mark to come along?
I will definately be there as a spectator but as Greeney says I may get it remapped and then get it RR'd!
Go for it Mark! You won't regret it and at that price it's a no brainer! :evil:
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Job done, all signed up. :smiley:
Top man! Should be a good meet! :smiley:
Oh yes, what's mod's do you have Nath?
Just you and Robin so far I think. Can we persuade Mark to come along?
I will definately be there as a spectator but as Greeney says I may get it remapped and then get it RR'd!
Go for it Mark! You won't regret it and at that price it's a no brainer! :evil:
x2 :smiley:
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Carbon intake and filter, Cat back Milltek (should be TB by the RR ) and Bluefin :wink:
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Carbon intake and filter, Cat back Milltek (should be TB by the RR ) and Bluefin :wink:
Nice :cool:
Is it Res or Non Res Milltek??
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Carbon intake and filter, Cat back Milltek (should be TB by the RR ) and Bluefin :wink:
Nice :cool:
Is it Res or Non Res Milltek??
Non :evil:
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Carbon intake and filter, Cat back Milltek (should be TB by the RR ) and Bluefin :wink:
Nice :cool:
Is it Res or Non Res Milltek??
Non :evil:
:cool: Still trying to get one approved at home, no luck yet :cry:
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Carbon intake and filter, Cat back Milltek (should be TB by the RR ) and Bluefin :wink:
Nice :cool:
Is it Res or Non Res Milltek??
Non :evil:
:cool: Still trying to get one approved at home, no luck yet :cry:
i know that feeling :cry:
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When is it again? And what else is there near Solihill?
And any decent digs - might make a weekend of it - cause its a 3½ hour drive from where I live - unless I come in the RS, then it would be 45 minutes away! :tongue: :tongue: :tongue: :tongue: :grin:
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Bring the Audi.. 4wd dyno days are few and far between :wink:
Its not far from the NEC so you have all the hotels/casino etc to take advantage of.
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When is it again? And what else is there near Solihill?
And any decent digs - might make a weekend of it - cause its a 3½ hour drive from where I live - unless I come in the RS, then it would be 45 minutes away! :tongue: :tongue: :tongue: :tongue: :grin:
Go for it T_T ! :wink:
I'll give you a run in my Bluefin'd open fog grilled ED30 if you like? :laugh:
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Bring the Audi.. 4wd dyno days are few and far between :wink:
But my local has a 4wd RR. And I wouldn't want to shame you all! :tongue:
Its not far from the NEC so you have all the hotels/casino etc to take advantage of.
Do the Latvians make it that far north? :evil:
EDIT: Added date! :rolleyes:
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My GTI is back to health - New (and latest version) Milltek Downpipe and Revo checking her out with me at Castle Combe tomorrow, but my butt-dyno says she's pulling Stage2 again.
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/BlackTips.jpg)
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My GTI is back to health - New (and latest version) Milltek Downpipe and Revo checking her out with me at Castle Combe tomorrow, but my butt-dyno says she's pulling Stage2 again.
What was the problem? Whats this new downpipe you talk of sir... ;)
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My GTI is back to health - New (and latest version) Milltek Downpipe and Revo checking her out with me at Castle Combe tomorrow, but my butt-dyno says she's pulling Stage2 again.
What was the problem? Whats this new downpipe you talk of sir... ;)
....She was plotting under power and torque on JKM's dyno. Milltek changed the Cat+Downpipe as she was failing emissions test. I'll report more fully when we know more definitely what was going on.
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I am all paid-up and confirmed for the RR day :smiley:
Come on you Revo tuned ED30 owners we could really do with at least one of you to get some good comparision on the results from the day ??
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I am all paid-up and confirmed for the RR day :smiley:
Come on you Revo tuned ED30 owners we could really do with at least one of you to get some good comparision on the results from the day ??
Not only that, we have the golfgti.co.uk resident photographer attending :wink:
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im away that weekend so doesnt look like i will be able to come :(
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I am all paid-up and confirmed for the RR day :smiley:
Come on you Revo tuned ED30 owners we could really do with at least one of you to get some good comparision on the results from the day ??
Really would love to attend this. But doesn't help that 2 RR days have been organised a week apart and i've committed to the first one i'm afraid guys.. :undecided:
My Missus would lynch me if I went to three car events in 4 weekends and we are off to see her folks that weekend too.. :grin: I will be at the next one though I promise.. :wink:
See if you can twist Luca's arm to go :grin:. He's got exactly the same mods as mine.. :cool:
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I am all paid-up and confirmed for the RR day :smiley:
Come on you Revo tuned ED30 owners we could really do with at least one of you to get some good comparision on the results from the day ??
Not only that, we have the golfgti.co.uk resident photographer attending :wink:
But on the down side he might be bringing Chuff with him, but don't be put off people he isn't as bad as the picture makes him out to be :wink: :laugh: :laugh:
(http://i427.photobucket.com/albums/pp359/chuffs69/Chuff-.jpg)
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I am all paid-up and confirmed for the RR day :smiley:
Come on you Revo tuned ED30 owners we could really do with at least one of you to get some good comparision on the results from the day ??
Not only that, we have the golfgti.co.uk resident photographer attending :wink:
But on the down side he might be bringing Chuff with him, but don't be put off people he isn't as bad as the picture makes him out to be :wink: :laugh: :laugh:
(http://i427.photobucket.com/albums/pp359/chuffs69/Chuff-.jpg)
PMSL!!! :laugh:
It's a good look :kiss:
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I am all paid-up and confirmed for the RR day :smiley:
Come on you Revo tuned ED30 owners we could really do with at least one of you to get some good comparision on the results from the day ??
Hi Steve,
I'm new to the forum today had my ED30 about 5 days and i notice you have a couple of the upgrades I'm looking at, ie the Richter re-map and the RNS510, can't work out how to PM on here but feel free to fire me a mail I would be really interested to hear your experiences
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I am all paid-up and confirmed for the RR day :smiley:
Come on you Revo tuned ED30 owners we could really do with at least one of you to get some good comparision on the results from the day ??
Hi Steve,
I'm new to the forum today had my ED30 about 5 days and i notice you have a couple of the upgrades I'm looking at, ie the Richter re-map and the RNS510, can't work out how to PM on here but feel free to fire me a mail I would be really interested to hear your experiences
You need 10 posts to PM so drop by the new members section and say hello a few times to get your post count up :smiley:
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I am all paid-up and confirmed for the RR day :smiley:
Come on you Revo tuned ED30 owners we could really do with at least one of you to get some good comparision on the results from the day ??
Hi Steve,
I'm new to the forum today had my ED30 about 5 days and i notice you have a couple of the upgrades I'm looking at, ie the Richter re-map and the RNS510, can't work out how to PM on here but feel free to fire me a mail I would be really interested to hear your experiences
You need a post count of ten before you can PM Miguel :smiley:
Edit He too fast for me as above
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Cheers top cat
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Spamming a single thread isn't a great start :rolleyes:
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Spamming a single thread isn't a great start :rolleyes:
It worked though It gives officer Dribble something to do :grin:
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Oh dear have I dropped one on my first day, sorry to anyone who has a waisted trip down this thread.
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Spamming a single thread isn't a great start :rolleyes:
It worked though It gives officer Dribble something to do :grin:
True it did work :grin:
Come on Dibble can we see some of your super powers in action please :laugh: :laugh:
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MR Topher is babysitting us at the moment i am sure he will wave his wand :wink:
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Now I have no idea what you guys are on about
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Sorry Steve can't reply to your PM as I have had my post count pegged back :sick:
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wasn't me.. I can magic you some extra posts though.
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Cheers mate
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I can magic you some extra posts though.
Sorta defeats the objective of the 10 post limit then! :tongue:
Anyhow, even though SWMBO has now signed my holiday pass, I'd better not turn up, or I'd get lynched by all those upset Haldex R32 boys! :grin:
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Spamming a single thread isn't a great start :rolleyes:
It worked though It gives officer Dribble something to do :grin:
True it did work :grin:
Come on Dibble can we see some of your super powers in action please :laugh: :laugh:
i get shouted at if i do SteveP, im sitting on my hands for a while :lipsrsealed:
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Spamming a single thread isn't a great start :rolleyes:
It worked though It gives officer Dribble something to do :grin:
True it did work :grin:
Come on Dibble can we see some of your super powers in action please :laugh: :laugh:
i get shouted at if i do SteveP, im sitting on my hands for a while :lipsrsealed:
If you are sitting on your hands - where is your truncheon :shocked: :evil: :kiss:
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I've only just spotted this thread! 5 days to go guys. Get your wallets out! :laugh:
http://www.r32oc.com/southern/6730-mkv-meet-weston-performance-rr-day-sat-1st-nov-08-a.html (http://www.r32oc.com/southern/6730-mkv-meet-weston-performance-rr-day-sat-1st-nov-08-a.html)
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I've only just spotted this thread! 5 days to go guys. Get your wallets out! :laugh:
http://www.r32oc.com/southern/6730-mkv-meet-weston-performance-rr-day-sat-1st-nov-08-a.html (http://www.r32oc.com/southern/6730-mkv-meet-weston-performance-rr-day-sat-1st-nov-08-a.html)
Come on lads, no one else up for this? Even just come down to spectate and say Hello?
So far from here:
Me
RedRobin
StevePG
Topher
Markymark
And Horney will be in attendance with his long lense :wink:
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I'm hoping to be there but as both davefish and Weston know, it's all subject to what happens in solving my boost leak on Friday at JKM.
I should be able to attend but not necessarily on the rollers or any spirited demonstrations of the Quaife!!
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I'm hoping to be there but as both davefish and Weston know, it's all subject to what happens in solving my boost leak on Friday at JKM.
I should be able to attend but not necessarily on the rollers or any spirited demonstrations of the Quaife!!
Be good to see you again if you can make it Robin :smiley:
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I've only just spotted this thread! 5 days to go guys. Get your wallets out! :laugh:
http://www.r32oc.com/southern/6730-mkv-meet-weston-performance-rr-day-sat-1st-nov-08-a.html (http://www.r32oc.com/southern/6730-mkv-meet-weston-performance-rr-day-sat-1st-nov-08-a.html)
Come on lads, no one else up for this? Even just come down to spectate and say Hello?
So far from here:
Me
RedRobin
StevePG
Topher
Markymark
And Horney will be in attendance with his long lense :wink:
Scrub that, just read Nick can't make it :sad: Sorry to hear that mate, was lookin forward to meeting you and your skills :wink:
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Weather's looking ok too! :wink:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml?id=1114
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I suppose yours will be shiny clean after a 5 minute drive, showing the rest of us up :grin:
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I suppose yours will be shiny clean after a 5 minute drive, showing the rest of us up :grin:
Not driven it all week :laugh: :wink:
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Just noticed Nick can't make it. I'll see if our official photographer is available tomorrow.
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Just noticed Nick can't make it. I'll see if our official photographer is available tomorrow.
Any good Toph? :huh:
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Still trying to convince him.. although he's saying his camera is out of action at the mo. Popping round there in a bit for some snap and fireworks, might stick a rocket up his arse.
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See you guys tomorrow! For anyone else reading… You can pay on the day so feel free to turn up with £45 and join in!
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come on any news yet :tongue:
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just got back but don't have all the results
mine made 238.5bhp with a noticable flat spot at 3k rpm, and i seemed to be the only car there with the rev limiter still set to 6400.. so could've made more.
Steve's ED30 made 289bhp on his richter map, and Greenouses ED30 with the revised bluefin and TBE made 325bhp.. although it did 334(i think) on one of the runs that wasn't recorded.
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just got back but don't have all the results
mine made 238.5bhp with a noticable flat spot at 3k rpm, and i seemed to be the only car there with the rev limiter still set to 6400.. so could've made more.
Steve's ED30 made 289bhp on his richter map, and Greenouses ED30 with the revised bluefin and TBE made 325bhp.. although it did 334(i think) on one of the runs that wasn't recorded.
Ooooh, a mapped/TBE ED30 with over 300bhp on DD rollers???? Never!!! :grin:
Nice results Greenouse :wink:. What's wrong with yours then Topher, any ideas?
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What's wrong with yours then Topher, any ideas?
Hard to say. As the only unmodified car there wasn't much to compare to.. although the remapped R32's weren't exactly miles ahead. It'll be due a service before Christmas so I'll get them to give it a onceover, but a missing 10bhp calculated by a dyno doesn't really concern me (especially as with a simple rev limiter delete I'll easily be at the 250 mark).
Its the flat spot from 2750-4000 that bugs me more, it's been quite noticable the last few days. Fuelling seemed fine, so it might just need a bloody good thrash to make it forget that I've had to drive it sensibly for the last 2 weeks while the noddies causing traffic on my way to work in the bad weather have kept my revs below the happy zone. It has been nice to see 30+ mpg every day though :grin:
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just got back but don't have all the results
mine made 238.5bhp with a noticable flat spot at 3k rpm, and i seemed to be the only car there with the rev limiter still set to 6400.. so could've made more.
Steve's ED30 made 289bhp on his richter map, and Greenouses ED30 with the revised bluefin and TBE made 325bhp.. although it did 334(i think) on one of the runs that wasn't recorded.
Ooooh, a mapped/TBE ED30 with over 300bhp on DD rollers???? Never!!! :grin:
Nice results Greenouse :wink:. What's wrong with yours then Topher, any ideas?
Cheers Ben :wink:
Gotta say I was a bit surprised as I've heard the Dyno Dynamics rollers are spot on, and I've probably started to believe some of the Superchips bashing! Im glad to see my Butt Dyno was well calibrated!! :grin:
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Firstly Thanks to DaveFish for organising this and to Topher for getting us GTI boys included :smiley:
This time I saw a slight increase over the results from the JKM day which where expected after the tweaking (My estimate was I would see 285bhp).
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(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk207/Stevep_010/Weston/IMG_0848.jpg)
I really need a TBE Milltek or APR RSC zorst NOW :evil:
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just got back but don't have all the results
mine made 238.5bhp with a noticable flat spot at 3k rpm, and i seemed to be the only car there with the rev limiter still set to 6400.. so could've made more.
Steve's ED30 made 289bhp on his richter map, and Greenouses ED30 with the revised bluefin and TBE made 325bhp.. although it did 334(i think) on one of the runs that wasn't recorded.
Ooooh, a mapped/TBE ED30 with over 300bhp on DD rollers???? Never!!! :grin:
Nice results Greenouse :wink:. What's wrong with yours then Topher, any ideas?
Cheers Ben :wink:
Gotta say I was a bit surprised as I've heard the Dyno Dynamics rollers are spot on, and I've probably started to believe some of the Superchips bashing! Im glad to see my Butt Dyno was well calibrated!! :grin:
dude, get up your graph :grin:
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Im still smiling :grin:
(http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk284/Greenouse/2008_1101Image0026.jpg)
Cheers for a great day Dave :smiley:
(still not warmed up though!!)
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Hi guys, glad you enjoyed it! I have posted the results on R32OC.
You will notice the 3 GTI's sitting in Gold, Silver and Bronze positions :grin:
Cheers
Dave
http://www.r32oc.com/southern/6730-mkv-meet-weston-performance-rr-day-sat-1st-nov-08-a-5.html#post74743 (http://www.r32oc.com/southern/6730-mkv-meet-weston-performance-rr-day-sat-1st-nov-08-a-5.html#post74743)
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Oh and thanks to Toph for the invite! was good to catch up with you again mate :wink:
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Any torque figures?
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Oh and thanks to Toph for the invite! was good to catch up with you again mate :wink:
.... x2 - Even though apparently we have met before! Sorry, but what do you expect from a senior GIT driver! At least this time we met properly and had more than a very brief introduction. [I'm now waiting for topher's post reminding me how we spent an hour talking on a previous occasion].
Cheers :afro:
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Indeed! Always nice to have a real conversation without having to use smilies to convey the humour.
Any torque figures?
Only what you can make out from the graph, so around 340lbft for Greenouse and a VERY smooth 260 for Steve, which must be very nice to drive... although there is so much more there to be had once that milltek goes on. Not really sure what's going on with the zigzagging on Greenouse's plot.. looks similar to what happens when you leave the ESP on, but I'm sure they turned that off in all the cars.. so could even be wheelspin (it was damp).
Oh and cheers to Dave for organising!
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Although not a Mk5 owner it was a pleasure to meet the chaps off the forum although there is a small amount of jealousy at some very tidy motors!
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Agreed Dan, it was great to put some faces to names and oggle those lovely R32's. Rupo's R32 sounded absolutely awesome, really made me want one! Im not going to blow anymore smoke up Greeney's ar$e *said in a totally jealous voice* as I think he has had enough now!! :tongue:
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Indeed! Always nice to have a real conversation without having to use smilies to convey the humour.
Any torque figures?
Only what you can make out from the graph, so around 340lbft for Greenouse and a VERY smooth 260 for Steve, which must be very nice to drive... although there is so much more there to be had once that milltek goes on. Not really sure what's going on with the zigzagging on Greenouse's plot.. looks similar to what happens when you leave the ESP on, but I'm sure they turned that off in all the cars.. so could even be wheelspin (it was damp).
Oh and cheers to Dave for organising!
He said on the second run there was a spike in the fuelling? Also noticed when I drove it away after the run the A/C was on :huh: , and the car was stone cold when it went on. Not sure why or what effect either would have, but the RR operator seemed more then happy with it........ And so am I :evil:
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Running from cold will make the car run richer!!!, not good for the car running at high rpm either!!. why didnt you say something nathan!!, i would go nuts if they blasted mine from cold!.
Not sure if it would effect your Results but still not a clever way of doing it.
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did he not warm it up on the RR first? :smiley:
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It gets run up for a couple of minutes while calibrating the wheel speed, and they don't do the full load test until you can see from the AF graph that any cold-start fuelling has gone away (which is why in most cases the first run they appear to record is stopped short by 50% of the bhp).
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did he not warm it up on the RR first? :smiley:
Nope it was straight on and off he went!! :huh:
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It gets run up for a couple of minutes while calibrating the wheel speed, and they don't do the full load test until you can see from the AF graph that any cold-start fuelling has gone away (which is why in most cases the first run they appear to record is stopped short by 50% of the bhp).
Ahh I see, still isnt what you call warmed up though.
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Oil probably won't have been up to full temp until the second run.. safe enough though
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Running from cold will make the car run richer!!!, not good for the car running at high rpm either!!. why didnt you say something nathan!!, i would go nuts if they blasted mine from cold!.
Not sure if it would effect your Results but still not a clever way of doing it.
I had confidence the guy knew what he was doing and no harm would come to my car. Just trying to figure out why the torque graph was a bit squiggly? Planning on a trip to Superchips HQ soon as they have offered to put it on their rollers for me. :smiley:
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Although not a Mk5 owner it was a pleasure to meet the chaps off the forum although there is a small amount of jealousy at some very tidy motors!
Good to meet you finally Dan, hope things take a turn for the better soon for you mate! :wink:
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Mentioned the GTI domination in my latest blog entry :laugh:
http://www.r32oc.com/members-rides/1095-dave-s-mkv-r32-blog-23.html#post76382 (http://www.r32oc.com/members-rides/1095-dave-s-mkv-r32-blog-23.html#post76382)
I'll sort another one out in the spring/summer. I genuinely really enjoyed having the GTI's there. I'm thinking next time we make a theme out of it. Maybe R32 Vs GTI RR Shootout. We all go on the rollers and the winning "team" is the team with the highest average power. Now based on last time we'd get thrashed lol but we have a few turbo guys who could make it pretty interesting :evil:
What do you think?
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Mentioned the GTI domination in my latest blog entry :laugh:
http://www.r32oc.com/members-rides/1095-dave-s-mkv-r32-blog-23.html#post76382 (http://www.r32oc.com/members-rides/1095-dave-s-mkv-r32-blog-23.html#post76382)
I'll sort another one out in the spring/summer. I genuinely really enjoyed having the GTI's there. I'm thinking next time we make a theme out of it. Maybe R32 Vs GTI RR Shootout. We all go on the rollers and the winning "team" is the team with the highest average power. Now based on last time we'd get thrashed lol but we have a few turbo guys who could make it pretty interesting :evil:
What do you think?
I can't say no Dave, not with Weston being so close to home :grin:
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Sounds like it could be interesting :cool:
A few ways we could score it.
Top 20 1st gets 20 points, down to last gets 1 point and then tot them up.
Overall bhp for the top ten from each team
Nearest accuracy for top ten from each team (1bhp out = 1 penalty point) least points wins.
Include torque figures in some way.
:nerd:
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Sounds like it could be interesting :cool:
A few ways we could score it.
Top 20 1st gets 20 points, down to last gets 1 point and then tot them up.
Overall bhp for the top ten from each team
Nearest accuracy for top ten from each team (1bhp out = 1 penalty point) least points wins.
Include torque figures in some way.
:nerd:
Some good ideas there chap. I'll try and sort out a R32 vs GTI RR Shootout for spring/summer next year. Should be fun :evil: