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Title: awesome
Post by: candy turbo on 04 October 2008, 13:59
just ordered my ecs dog bone insert kit from awesome  , had a chat about suspension , think will be travelling up their for koni fsd and eibach springs in a few weeks , any opinions guys ?
Title: Re: awesome
Post by: 182_blue on 04 October 2008, 14:01
just ordered my ecs dog bone insert kit from awesome  , had a chat about suspension , think will be travelling up their for koni fsd and eibach springs in a few weeks , any opinions guys ?

how much was it with shipping
Title: Re: awesome
Post by: candy turbo on 04 October 2008, 14:09
just ordered my ecs dog bone insert kit from awesome  , had a chat about suspension , think will be travelling up their for koni fsd and eibach springs in a few weeks , any opinions guys ?

how much was it with shipping
you know , i m not sure mate !!did nt ask ! dont feel very well today !!! did me a good quote on koni / eibach though  been quoted more for just koni at place i normally go!!!!!!!!! :smiley:
Title: Re: awesome
Post by: T88OMM on 04 October 2008, 14:39
The FSD set up with springs suit the golf chassis really well. The stance is perfect without compromising teh ride comfort. Good choice IMO  :smiley:
Title: Re: awesome
Post by: candy turbo on 04 October 2008, 14:41
cheers mate , i see you got the carbonio intake fitted , apart from looking great is it worth the money ? :huh:
Title: Re: awesome
Post by: bacillus on 04 October 2008, 14:43
Hopefully Robin will add his personal opinion on the FSD/Eibach combo as he has them on his car.
Title: Re: awesome
Post by: candy turbo on 04 October 2008, 14:47
i know ! awesome say its about the best combo for a road car  :smiley:
Title: Re: awesome
Post by: T88OMM on 04 October 2008, 14:48
cheers mate , i see you got the carbonio intake fitted , apart from looking great is it worth the money ? :huh:

Im not so sure really mate. I got it when the car was completely standard and it made the throttle response a little bit sharper, but hardly noticeable!! If I would have known about the Dbilas intake at the time I would have gone for that one I think, they seem to be giving some gains over stock BHP  :wink:
Title: Re: awesome
Post by: bacillus on 04 October 2008, 15:04
The carbonio apparently does give you some extra hp on a chipped car.
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3437465
Title: Re: awesome
Post by: candy turbo on 04 October 2008, 15:14
cheers mate , i see you got the carbonio intake fitted , apart from looking great is it worth the money ? :huh:

Im not so sure really mate. I got it when the car was completely standard and it made the throttle response a little bit sharper, but hardly noticeable!! If I would have known about the Dbilas intake at the time I would have gone for that one I think, they seem to be giving some gains over stock BHP  :wink:
i had a green panel filter fitted when it was remapped a long with the milltek so i only felt the difference as a package ( the drive home was amazing though !!) have heard the dbilas intake has been breaking some bracket some where ??? does look amazing under the bonnet though  :cool:
Title: Re: awesome
Post by: T88OMM on 04 October 2008, 15:58
The carbonio apparently does give you some extra hp on a chipped car.
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3437465

True but only minimal, the Dbilas is known to give more plus it sounds a whole lot better with the Dbilas!!  :tongue:
Title: Re: awesome
Post by: T88OMM on 04 October 2008, 16:00
cheers mate , i see you got the carbonio intake fitted , apart from looking great is it worth the money ? :huh:

Im not so sure really mate. I got it when the car was completely standard and it made the throttle response a little bit sharper, but hardly noticeable!! If I would have known about the Dbilas intake at the time I would have gone for that one I think, they seem to be giving some gains over stock BHP  :wink:
i had a green panel filter fitted when it was remapped a long with the milltek so i only felt the difference as a package ( the drive home was amazing though !!) have heard the dbilas intake has been breaking some bracket some where ??? does look amazing under the bonnet though  :cool:

Have you got the full Milltek? If you have you should defo go for the Autotech fuel pump and the stage 2 custom code, you will not be dissappointed!!  :laugh:
Title: Re: awesome
Post by: candy turbo on 04 October 2008, 16:23
only got cat back ! tbh i m happy with the performance now , makes me smile when driven that way imo money better spent now on other little tweaks to improve all round driving pleasure :smiley:
Title: Re: awesome
Post by: T88OMM on 04 October 2008, 16:32
As yours is I bet it goes like stink anyway!! I just jave a problem with always wanting more power!!  :laugh:
Title: Re: awesome
Post by: candy turbo on 04 October 2008, 16:49
its not about just the power with me ! i m starting to think what the other half says is right ,think i may have some sort of dis order !!!!!! just have to keep modding the car  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
   and yes it does go well :grin:
Title: Re: awesome
Post by: k4ith on 04 October 2008, 16:55
which Eibach springs are you getting? the pro-street only drop the car 10mm if your lucky with the fsd's.
recommend the fsd's though very nice to the wee bit harshness out of my mk2 leon FR.Koni recommend the eibach springs with them for some reason.
Title: Re: awesome
Post by: Hurdy on 04 October 2008, 16:56
its not about just the power with me ! i m starting to think what the other half says is right ,think i may have some sort of dis order !!!!!! just have to keep modding the car  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
   and yes it does go well :grin:

My wife goads me on now with the modding. If she had her way it'd be a MAX POWER special. :lipsrsealed: She's even asked me what I want for the car for my birthday this month :rolleyes: :evil:
Title: Re: awesome
Post by: candy turbo on 04 October 2008, 17:00
not sure ! awesome said the fsd s with standard springs would raise the car up to approx  20 mm so the eibach springs would compensate for that and lower 15 mm lower than standard  ? i think !! bit hungover today tbh :sick:
Title: Re: awesome
Post by: candy turbo on 04 October 2008, 17:02
its not about just the power with me ! i m starting to think what the other half says is right ,think i may have some sort of dis order !!!!!! just have to keep modding the car  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
   and yes it does go well :grin:

My wife goads me on now with the modding. If she had her way it'd be a MAX POWER special. :lipsrsealed: She's even asked me what I want for the car for my birthday this month :rolleyes: :evil:
thats good !  i m having brakes for christmas :smiley: :smiley: :laugh:
Title: Re: awesome
Post by: gazbutmk5gti on 04 October 2008, 17:05
I had a few issues with eibach springs and FSD's with the ride height. Have you seen negs car, he watched the trouble I had then opted for the H&R springs, if you look at his car it sits perfectly :smiley:
Title: Re: awesome
Post by: candy turbo on 04 October 2008, 17:24
 i did mention that to the guy at awesome (dont know his name) but he said eibach do different springs now for each engine type ie manual/dsg, petrol /diesel  ??? need to make sure cause dont want to go any lower than 15 mm over standard ed 30   neg sent me some pics , looks good  but not sure if bit too low for me , how much has his dropped ???
Title: Re: awesome
Post by: Hurdy on 04 October 2008, 22:34
I'd spend the extra to get coilovers!

Yes, yes I know some people don't need coilovers and that they have certain budget restraints, however if you go the extra spend and get coilovers it means that you can choose the drop you want within the confines of their design. :smiley:

Title: Re: awesome
Post by: RedRobin on 04 October 2008, 23:12
Hopefully Robin will add his personal opinion on the FSD/Eibach combo as he has them on his car.

....I had one of the first sets of KoniFSD's and from Awesome (Andy). Also Eibach Pro-Kit springs. I've done just under 50k miles on them (also with Eibach ARB's).

But, recently they have started going soft! Up to now I have been extremely happy with them and they are a very practical solution for a fast road car. Yes, you are limited how low you can go but which is more important to you - The Look? or your ride?

We've checked them for leakage and there is no fault visible so Awesome will send them back for testing by Koni in Holland.

Meanwhile I don't know yet whether to get some of the latest FSD's which Koni have developed with an extra valve or to go with VW Racing and KW's which they'll set up with me at Bruntingthorpe. Everyone says that coilovers are a very hard ride.

My advice would be to wait and get the new KoniFSD's and get the Eibach springs which are specifically for the Mk5 GTI and not TDI etc.

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/RED_3Oct08.jpg)

^Will someone please tell me she doesn't look pink in pics anymore. :smiley:
Title: Re: awesome
Post by: Hurdy on 04 October 2008, 23:30
She doesn't look pink in pics anymore :kiss:
Title: Re: awesome
Post by: Top Cat on 05 October 2008, 12:48
There is still a hint of pink there red but it is 99% better,
PS is that new red/pink colour part of your Autumn collection.  :evil:
Title: Re: awesome
Post by: candy turbo on 05 October 2008, 13:14
Hopefully Robin will add his personal opinion on the FSD/Eibach combo as he has them on his car.

....I had one of the first sets of KoniFSD's and from Awesome (Andy). Also Eibach Pro-Kit springs. I've done just under 50k miles on them (also with Eibach ARB's).

But, recently they have started going soft! Up to now I have been extremely happy with them and they are a very practical solution for a fast road car. Yes, you are limited how low you can go but which is more important to you - The Look? or your ride?

We've checked them for leakage and there is no fault visible so Awesome will send them back for testing by Koni in Holland.

Meanwhile I don't know yet whether to get some of the latest FSD's which Koni have developed with an extra valve or to go with VW Racing and KW's which they'll set up with me at Bruntingthorpe. Everyone says that coilovers are a very hard ride.

My advice would be to wait and get the new KoniFSD's and get the Eibach springs which are specifically for the Mk5 GTI and not TDI etc.

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/RED_3Oct08.jpg)

^Will someone please tell me she doesn't look pink in pics anymore. :smiley:
hi red , by how many mm did this set up drop the car from standard gti height ? have you got any side on pics to see the stance?   think your car looks  :cool:
Title: Re: awesome
Post by: RedRobin on 05 October 2008, 13:47
hi red , by how many mm did this set up drop the car from standard gti height ? have you got any side on pics to see the stance?   think your car looks  :cool:

....Thanks :cool: - Only drops 5-10 mm but has to have the travel for the FSD system to work.

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/RED_side1.jpg)

^This better?
Title: Re: awesome
Post by: candy turbo on 05 October 2008, 14:04
yes cheers mate ,think mine is about same as yours now !,  i love the carbon rear panel on yours too , is that available to go on standard ed 30 do you know ?????
    (http://)(http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n374/candyturbo_2008/DSCF1318.jpg)
Title: Re: awesome
Post by: RedRobin on 05 October 2008, 14:10
yes cheers mate ,think mine is about same as yours now !,  i love the carbon rear panel on yours too , is that available to go on standard ed 30 do you know ?????
 

....No - The Ed30 rear valance is one piece - You'd have to do what I've done (apart from quads!) - R32 'bumper' plus either R32 exhaust trim or aftermarket like my carbonfibre one.

(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk207/Stevep_010/RR/IMG_0754.jpg)
Title: Re: awesome
Post by: candy turbo on 05 October 2008, 14:16
wonder if any one makes a panel that just covers the lower part ???? think that would be a good seller imo.
     so do you think i should go with fsd s +eibach or do a little more research first ?
            (http://)(http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n374/candyturbo_2008/DSCF1322.jpg)
Title: Re: awesome
Post by: RedRobin on 05 October 2008, 15:03
wonder if any one makes a panel that just covers the lower part ???? think that would be a good seller imo.
     so do you think i should go with fsd s +eibach or do a little more research first ?

....A stick-on exhaust trim would no doubt look like a stick-on and so not very good. Part paint is another option.

Re the FSD's+Eibach vs A.N.Other system, it depends so much on what you want to achieve. I guess that for fast road use we would all want a shocks system which delivers the ride of the FSD's but the lowering adjustability and handling of coilovers. The FSD's are an excellent compromise between the two.

I'm really facing the same question - New improved FSD's vs Coilovers - this week should decide.

:afro:
Title: Re: awesome
Post by: Top Cat on 05 October 2008, 15:06
Red are you going to give us the info on your new stealth tips  :cool:
Also my coilovers are imminent, which happen to have adjustment on the dampening which is one of your concerns about coilovers being to firm.  :smiley:
Title: Re: awesome
Post by: gazbutmk5gti on 05 October 2008, 17:07
I can honestly tell you the Eibach coilovers aren't to harsh at all.
I went out in Pab at Awesome's new S3 on Friday, he's just fitted KW variant 3's and 19" CH's. He's running them pretty low but the ride is impressively compliant. Kind of wish I hadn't gone out in it, made me want some and there a bit on the steep side :smiley:
Title: Re: awesome
Post by: RedRobin on 05 October 2008, 21:27
Red are you going to give us the info on your new stealth tips  :cool:

....Something I'm testing for Milltek. I'll post when they're on public release. :cool:
Title: Re: awesome
Post by: RedRobin on 05 October 2008, 21:29
Also my coilovers are imminent, which happen to have adjustment on the dampening which is one of your concerns about coilovers being to firm.  :smiley:

....I expect you've already posted the info somewhere, but which coilovers are you getting, TC? :smiley:
Title: Re: awesome
Post by: Top Cat on 05 October 2008, 21:34
Also my coilovers are imminent, which happen to have adjustment on the dampening which is one of your concerns about coilovers being to firm.  :smiley:

....I expect you've already posted the info somewhere, but which coilovers are you getting, TC? :smiley:

I ordered the KW variant 2 to go with the white line anti lift kit.

PS Regarding your tips i wasn't sure if if you had left them to coke up after someone else posted a pic saying they can be bought in silver as well, but i really like them like that.  :cool:
Title: Re: awesome
Post by: RedRobin on 05 October 2008, 21:37
I can honestly tell you the Eibach coilovers aren't to harsh at all.
I went out in Pab at Awesome's new S3 on Friday, he's just fitted KW variant 3's and 19" CH's. He's running them pretty low but the ride is impressively compliant. Kind of wish I hadn't gone out in it, made me want some and there a bit on the steep side :smiley:

....Eibach told me their latest coilovers weren't available until December.

Isn't the reason why the KW V3's are impressively compliant because of running them very low? Great except for what happens on UK roads if very low - I'm thinking of my expensive front splitter.

Anyone know about KW Street Comfort coilovers? They have adjustable rebound damping, but not compression.
Title: Re: awesome
Post by: RedRobin on 05 October 2008, 21:59
I ordered the KW variant 2 to go with the white line anti lift kit.

....KW V2 sounds good for fast road use - I'll look into those - Thanks, now on my shortlist.

PS Regarding your tips i wasn't sure if if you had left them to coke up after someone else posted a pic saying they can be bought in silver as well, but i really like them like that.  :cool:

....Black Satin finish. Of course now I've told you, I'll have to shoot you :evil:

:afro:
Title: Re: awesome
Post by: ukdub on 05 October 2008, 23:36
Are a good set of springs and dampers better or just the same as a set of coilovers?  I mean, if you don't want to change the ride hight (except the standard drop of uprated springs and dampers) is there any point to the coilovers by any company because of the extra costs?
Title: Re: awesome
Post by: RedRobin on 05 October 2008, 23:58
Are a good set of springs and dampers better or just the same as a set of coilovers?  I mean, if you don't want to change the ride hight (except the standard drop of uprated springs and dampers) is there any point to the coilovers by any company because of the extra costs?

....Some coilovers also have adjustability for compression and rebound dampening.