Bloody hell, don't want to be going through a set in less than 10/11k really.. What mileage have you got out of the Michelins Steve, just to compare..?
Like you I have found the mich's to last a very long time, the Bridgestones and Pirelli both lasted less than 9K for me.
As title says, after 15k, my boots are about shot and will be going for change next week after service..
The car is on a maintenance contract, but going from previous contracts, they can be slightly flexible on changing brand...
On my old LCR I changed from the original Pirellis to Conti sport 2's and I could not believe the difference!!! :shocked: Hardly ever lost traction under normal driving (it was remapped too). Are these wise for the ED30, or what is the best choice for you boys..?
The Michelins that are on at the min, must be made from tungstun carbide or something, as they seem to wear very little, so obviously a very hard compound. But can't help thinking they could grip a little better.. :sad: So idealy I am looking for something that is a little softer (more grip), but something that I won't wear out in a fortnight.. :grin:
Suggestions please? :wink:
P.S. I know I could do a search, but, well, if i'm honest, I can't be arsed! :grin: :grin: :grin:
The Michelins that are on at the min, must be made from tungstun carbide or something, as they seem to wear very little,
My Michelin Pilot Primacy's are pretty good, an have read that the Michelin Pilot Sports are good too. Costco (if you are a member or know someone who is) are doing the Pilot Sports for £116 each.
Bloody hell, don't want to be going through a set in less than 10/11k really.. What mileage have you got out of the Michelins Steve, just to compare..?
Like you I have found the mich's to last a very long time, the Bridgestones and Pirelli both lasted less than 9K for me.
Bloody hell, quite a difference then mate..Bloody hell, don't want to be going through a set in less than 10/11k really.. What mileage have you got out of the Michelins Steve, just to compare..?
Like you I have found the mich's to last a very long time, the Bridgestones and Pirelli both lasted less than 9K for me.
Just other 13K now and they have probably got at least another 6-7K to go :smiley:
Cheers for the ridiculous amount of usefull info again TT.. :wink:As title says, after 15k, my boots are about shot and will be going for change next week after service..
The car is on a maintenance contract, but going from previous contracts, they can be slightly flexible on changing brand...
On my old LCR I changed from the original Pirellis to Conti sport 2's and I could not believe the difference!!! :shocked: Hardly ever lost traction under normal driving (it was remapped too). Are these wise for the ED30, or what is the best choice for you boys..?
The Michelins that are on at the min, must be made from tungstun carbide or something, as they seem to wear very little, so obviously a very hard compound. But can't help thinking they could grip a little better.. :sad: So idealy I am looking for something that is a little softer (more grip), but something that I won't wear out in a fortnight.. :grin:
Suggestions please? :wink:
P.S. I know I could do a search, but, well, if i'm honest, I can't be arsed! :grin: :grin: :grin:
Which type of Michelin? If they are the Pilot Exalto PE2, then the Pilot Sport PE2 would be considerably better. And I'll say it again, the Mich PS2 IS the best tyre in the world. They are fitted as standard to a whole host of cars, from Audis, Porsches, through to the Bugatti Veyron. There is a chap in the Isle of Man who has a seriously tuned B5 RS4, and regularly does 200mph on the island, and states that only the Mich PS2s are good enough.
As you have already discovered, Pirellis are fooking shyte, and actally fookin lethal.
And whilst many on here and elsewhere will rave about the Goodyears, they too IMVHO are shyte too, because they have unresolved issues which cause adverse handling traites, and will actually cause the ESP to kick in. Owners on this forum have reported this directly to Goodyear UK, and these same issues were reported in various car mags - yet Goodyear do fcuk all about it. Finally, Goodyears (of the size and type relevant to the GTI) have NO OEM approvals or fitments.
Appart from Michelins, the only other tyre I would recommend is the latest Continental - the ContiSportContact3s, which also have OEM approvals and fitments from Audi and Porsche.
Will have a look in a bit mate and let you know.. :wink:The Michelins that are on at the min, must be made from tungstun carbide or something, as they seem to wear very little,
On the side wall of your tyre you will have a bit that says something like this "Traction A, Temperature A, Treadwear 280. What is the number you have on the treadwear? Im not sure on the scale that its is based but im pretty sure that the lower the number the softer the compound. For example the Toyo 888's are 100 and my Conti 3's are 280
To be honest i cant complain about the conti 3's that i have although i have not had any other tyre fitted to the GTI as yet so this is a somewhat flawed opinion
Whats your honest opinion On Dunlop Sportmax?? ( gets ready for it! ) worn fronts that are on about 4mm, and ive posted about esp making me almost headbutt the steering wheel when trying to excellerate hard.
My Michelin Pilot Primacy's are pretty good, an have read that the Michelin Pilot Sports are good too. Costco (if you are a member or know someone who is) are doing the Pilot Sports for £116 each.
Pilot Primacys are NOT suited to the GTI, or any hot hatch or performance car. They are specifically designed for large luxury limos, such as the Merc E and S classes, Audi A8, VW Phaeton, etc.
And whilst many on here and elsewhere will rave about the Goodyears, they too IMVHO are shyte too, because they have unresolved issues which cause adverse handling traites, and will actually cause the ESP to kick in. Owners on this forum have reported this directly to Goodyear UK, and these same issues were reported in various car mags - yet Goodyear do fcuk all about it. Finally, Goodyears (of the size and type relevant to the GTI) have NO OEM approvals or fitments.
Appart from Michelins, the only other tyre I would recommend is the latest Continental - the ContiSportContact3s, which also have OEM approvals and fitments from Audi and Porsche.
My Michelin Pilot Primacy's are pretty good, an have read that the Michelin Pilot Sports are good too. Costco (if you are a member or know someone who is) are doing the Pilot Sports for £116 each.
Pilot Primacys are NOT suited to the GTI, or any hot hatch or performance car. They are specifically designed for large luxury limos, such as the Merc E and S classes, Audi A8, VW Phaeton, etc.
Oh man, really? These are what came with the car from the dealership. It was a brand new factory build. I'm going to change them as soon as I have the cash. Cheers for the heads up T_T. Always appreciate the advice you give. :smiley:
Which type of Michelin? If they are the Pilot Exalto PE2, then the Pilot Sport PE2 would be considerably better....
Ben defintly go for the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric one of the best tyres if not the best and i'm used Michelin Sport cups !
Failing that get Michelin PS2's or the Bridgestone equivalent.
All three of the above tyres are great in the wet/dry and give a good ride !
Judging by the high mileage you do, semi slicks out of the eqaution ?? ie Michelin Pilot Sport Cups / Toyo T1 R s ?
Just checked the Treadwear 240 Traction A Temp A.. Not sure what that means though... :huh:The Michelins that are on at the min, must be made from tungstun carbide or something, as they seem to wear very little,
On the side wall of your tyre you will have a bit that says something like this "Traction A, Temperature A, Treadwear 280. What is the number you have on the treadwear? Im not sure on the scale that its is based but im pretty sure that the lower the number the softer the compound. For example the Toyo 888's are 100 and my Conti 3's are 280
To be honest i cant complain about the conti 3's that i have although i have not had any other tyre fitted to the GTI as yet so this is a somewhat flawed opinion
Which type of Michelin? If they are the Pilot Exalto PE2, then the Pilot Sport PE2 would be considerably better....
TT, what is wrong with Exalto? I have them :undecided:
Just checked the Treadwear 240 Traction A Temp A.. Not sure what that means though... :huh:The Michelins that are on at the min, must be made from tungstun carbide or something, as they seem to wear very little,
On the side wall of your tyre you will have a bit that says something like this "Traction A, Temperature A, Treadwear 280. What is the number you have on the treadwear? Im not sure on the scale that its is based but im pretty sure that the lower the number the softer the compound. For example the Toyo 888's are 100 and my Conti 3's are 280
To be honest i cant complain about the conti 3's that i have although i have not had any other tyre fitted to the GTI as yet so this is a somewhat flawed opinion
Sorry mate, thought I put Exaltos on there, but obviously didn't.. :grin:Just checked the Treadwear 240 Traction A Temp A.. Not sure what that means though... :huh:The Michelins that are on at the min, must be made from tungstun carbide or something, as they seem to wear very little,
On the side wall of your tyre you will have a bit that says something like this "Traction A, Temperature A, Treadwear 280. What is the number you have on the treadwear? Im not sure on the scale that its is based but im pretty sure that the lower the number the softer the compound. For example the Toyo 888's are 100 and my Conti 3's are 280
To be honest i cant complain about the conti 3's that i have although i have not had any other tyre fitted to the GTI as yet so this is a somewhat flawed opinion
But what TYPE of Michelins are they? :rolleyes:
Doesn't matter to much on cost (within reason), as I don't pay.. :laugh:
Did you say you have Conti's on yours now Luca?
Read AutoExpress. They tested 200 tyres on a Gti and GT 225/45/17. The edition came out a few weeks ago. It's also here...
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/products/total_tyre_guide/212628/the_total_tyre_guide.html
Which type of Michelin? If they are the Pilot Exalto PE2, then the Pilot Sport PE2 would be considerably better....
TT, what is wrong with Exalto? I have them :undecided:
I think you mis-understood me. There is nothing wrong with the Exaltos. In fact, they are a very good tyre. However, they are not an "out and out" sports performance tyre. The Exaltos are aimed at hot hatches, cabrios and the like, and combine the abilities of sporting handling (but not extreme sports grip), with really superb wet weather performance, excellent tyre life, good comfort, and a general all-round tyre. So you can have fun in the twisites one moment, and the next, your Granny wont be moaning because the tyre is creating a hard ride.
wow the tyre I got with my GTI came in 4th in the test results.
My Michelin Pilot Primacy's are pretty good, an have read that the Michelin Pilot Sports are good too. Costco (if you are a member or know someone who is) are doing the Pilot Sports for £116 each.
Pilot Primacys are NOT suited to the GTI, or any hot hatch or performance car. They are specifically designed for large luxury limos, such as the Merc E and S classes, Audi A8, VW Phaeton, etc.
Oh man, really? These are what came with the car from the dealership. It was a brand new factory build. I'm going to change them as soon as I have the cash. Cheers for the heads up T_T. Always appreciate the advice you give. :smiley:
Are you sure that someone at the stealers didn't swap them? Because I have never heard of any GTIs/Ed30/R32s leaving the factory with Primacys on them? Does the age code on the tyre match the actual build date of the car?
Anyway - Primacy: http://www.michelin.co.uk/michelinuk/en/auto-utilitaires/avantages/20070312100251.html
Mich Pilot Exalto PE2 (which is the "starting point" tyre for hot hatches): http://www.michelin.co.uk/uk/front/affich.jsp?codeRubrique=20060301144538
And PS2 which is the daddy: http://www.michelin.co.uk/uk/front/affich.jsp?codeRubrique=20060215151339
Ohhh - I've just noticed that Michelin web team have listened to and acted upon my recent criticism! :afro:
Liking my p-zero rosso's at the moment, but done less than 1000 miles on them so time will tell. Road noise is the only downside I've found so far.
I've just changed mine from Conti 2's to Conti 3's. The Conti 2's lasted just under 9K of hard motoring, very little motorway use and mainly fast A and B roads, plus a track day and around 4 or 5 1/4 mile sessions, so I'd say they did fairly well to last that distance.
The Conti 3's are just recovering from being roughed up at Bruntingthorpe after I got unlimited runs for the weekend :lipsrsealed:
Grip in the wet is excellent, but in the dry I think they could be bettered. :smiley:
Read AutoExpress. They tested 200 tyres on a Gti and GT 225/45/17. The edition came out a few weeks ago. It's also here...
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/products/total_tyre_guide/212628/the_total_tyre_guide.html
Hiya, got back home and checked the age code on the tyres and the were made 20th week of 2008. I picked the car up from the stealers on 21st June.
Not surre what all that means but they are definitely Michelin Primacy's. I have 17" alloys and my spare 17" has Michelin Pilot Sport on it which I got from Costco.
Goodyear Eagle F1 GSD3's - loads better than the conti OEMs.
I've had conti 2's, goodyear f1 gsd3's and im running on f1 assymetricals at the moment. The contis were awful, GSD3's were brilliant until half worn where they became noisy and awful in the wet.
I would never consider anything but F1's :cool:
Sorry mate, thought I put Exaltos on there, but obviously didn't.. :grin:
Before you shoot bud, what would you recommend for my car then. Considering it's running over 300bhp and I do a bit of 1/4 mile sprinting, so woud like some decent grip.. :wink:
On the other hand, I do quite a bit of motorway miles and need them to crack 10k minimum really.. (These have easily cracker 15k with a bit to spare..
TT how much are the ps2 in 225/40 18?
Do you think the pilot sport cups are as good as toyo r888?
Never used a semi slick tyre so no idea which to go for. Will only use them on trackdays, drag strip, very hot days etc.
Are the PS2's a softer compound then mate?Sorry mate, thought I put Exaltos on there, but obviously didn't.. :grin:
Before you shoot bud, what would you recommend for my car then. Considering it's running over 300bhp and I do a bit of 1/4 mile sprinting, so woud like some decent grip.. :wink:
Michelin Pilot Sport PS2. :smiley:
Or if you have some track-only rims, and just for the 1/4 mile'ers, then some semi-slick Michelin Pilot Sport Cups. A set of tyre warmers would also be handy in chilly Blighty! :wink: :grin:On the other hand, I do quite a bit of motorway miles and need them to crack 10k minimum really.. (These have easily cracker 15k with a bit to spare..
Well, to be honest, if your Exaltos have reached 15k miles with all the above, then providing you don't start driving like a continual loon, then the PS2s should crack the 10k mark.
I've just changed mine from Conti 2's to Conti 3's. The Conti 2's lasted just under 9K of hard motoring, very little motorway use and mainly fast A and B roads, plus a track day and around 4 or 5 1/4 mile sessions, so I'd say they did fairly well to last that distance.
The Conti 3's are just recovering from being roughed up at Bruntingthorpe after I got unlimited runs for the weekend :lipsrsealed:
Grip in the wet is excellent, but in the dry I think they could be bettered. :smiley:
Hurdy i have conti 2's at the minute. Are the conti 3's loads better?
Would you buy conti 3's again?
Thanks
Are the PS2's a softer compound then mate?Sorry mate, thought I put Exaltos on there, but obviously didn't.. :grin:
Before you shoot bud, what would you recommend for my car then. Considering it's running over 300bhp and I do a bit of 1/4 mile sprinting, so woud like some decent grip.. :wink:
Michelin Pilot Sport PS2. :smiley:
Or if you have some track-only rims, and just for the 1/4 mile'ers, then some semi-slick Michelin Pilot Sport Cups. A set of tyre warmers would also be handy in chilly Blighty! :wink: :grin:On the other hand, I do quite a bit of motorway miles and need them to crack 10k minimum really.. (These have easily cracker 15k with a bit to spare..
Well, to be honest, if your Exaltos have reached 15k miles with all the above, then providing you don't start driving like a continual loon, then the PS2s should crack the 10k mark.
I shall not be changing wheels/tyres for 1/4 mile racing. Just run it as the car stands and can't really be arsed with buying another set of rims for just that.. So they need to be a sticky tyre that doesn't lose 2mm of tread after every emergency start.. :wink:
Looks like i'm stuck between..
PS2's
Conti Sport 3's
and F1 Ass's..
Mmmmm, will see what the leasing company say I suppose..
I understand where you are coming from Teutonic T, semi slicks as everyday tyres is a bit excessive but i've used the Sport cups all year around for about 3/4 years !!!
They were great in the wet, you get much more feedback about what the road condition is like, the only time they are dangerous is when you hit a patch of standing water/ice but you should be looking at the road in the first place !!!
You are also correct T_T that it would require slightly more skill to use the tyres as they can be pushed very far , but when they do give up grip its almost unexpected / very quick to do so.
I am a firm believer the best mod anyone can do to a car is to increase their driving skill/safety/quality, going on car course / driver training days .
Even in the pouring rain T_T the cups are an awesome tyre, true you will not be pushing that hard but the tyres make the driving experince much better and in the dry the grip they give is astonishing .
I've noticed everytime i have to use the normal road tyres, some of the feel and handling has gone.
Bad points of the semi slicks is Cost,ride(stiff sidewall), road noise, tyre life (be lucky to get 4000 miles!), handling standing water and the breakaway of the tyre.
Also what the car manufactures do not tell you is that for cups to work effectively there has to be more than -2.5 camber (too excessive for some as said for everday use) ! ! ! ! that means you end up with the tyres burning up the inner edges .
Toyo R888's are cheaper than Cups for a reason, they do not provide more grip or feel than the cups.
I really do think that the Goodyear Eagle Asymetrics are a better tyre than the Michelin PS2, especially in the wet and on tyre life, especially when you bring in tyre costs !
The PS2 also wear very quickly under hard use ! the Goodyear is very good in that manner !
Ben do the Goodyear Asymmetric , they are what you are looking for !
I've just changed mine from Conti 2's to Conti 3's. The Conti 2's lasted just under 9K of hard motoring, very little motorway use and mainly fast A and B roads, plus a track day and around 4 or 5 1/4 mile sessions, so I'd say they did fairly well to last that distance.
The Conti 3's are just recovering from being roughed up at Bruntingthorpe after I got unlimited runs for the weekend :lipsrsealed:
Grip in the wet is excellent, but in the dry I think they could be bettered. :smiley:
Hurdy i have conti 2's at the minute. Are the conti 3's loads better?
Would you buy conti 3's again?
Thanks
I'd have the Michelins if I was paying for them, b ut I have a full service maintenance and tyre package and they OEM Conti's are included. :smiley:
I've just changed mine from Conti 2's to Conti 3's. The Conti 2's lasted just under 9K of hard motoring, very little motorway use and mainly fast A and B roads, plus a track day and around 4 or 5 1/4 mile sessions, so I'd say they did fairly well to last that distance.
The Conti 3's are just recovering from being roughed up at Bruntingthorpe after I got unlimited runs for the weekend :lipsrsealed:
Grip in the wet is excellent, but in the dry I think they could be bettered. :smiley:
Hurdy i have conti 2's at the minute. Are the conti 3's loads better?
Would you buy conti 3's again?
Thanks
I'd have the Michelins if I was paying for them, b ut I have a full service maintenance and tyre package and they OEM Conti's are included. :smiley:
Can't you offer to make up the cost difference? :wink:
I would never consider anything but F1's :cool:
Hiya, got back home and checked the age code on the tyres and the were made 20th week of 2008. I picked the car up from the stealers on 21st June.
OK, that means your tyres were manufactured week commencing 12 May 08, and you picked up your car 5 weeks later! :undecided: Any reason to delay the collection of your car from the stealers (maybe you were away on hols, or wanted to wait for a birthday or sommat)? :huh: If you want to PM me your VIN, I will be able to tell you the exact day your car came off the production line. This will go some way to confirm if your tyres have been swapped, as VW (just like all the major manufactures) will factory fit tyres from the same or previous week as the car is rolling along the line. I reckon that a Passat supplied by your stealer has your tyres on it! :rolleyes: Do your alloys have the factory wheel balance weights, or the dealer balance weights? Post a picture if you aint sure. :smiley:Not surre what all that means but they are definitely Michelin Primacy's. I have 17" alloys and my spare 17" has Michelin Pilot Sport on it which I got from Costco.
What, you got an additional full size spare? :huh:
Now the nights are closing in might I suggest an eye test. Good vision will allow you to travel faster, in greater safety and at night far more than super unleaded or the marginal difference between brands of tyre. Just buy a decent brand, keep them pumped up and stop worrying.