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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: Tornado-red_gti on 19 May 2004, 08:30

Title: Engine temperature
Post by: Tornado-red_gti on 19 May 2004, 08:30

 My engine seems to be getting very hot even after fairly short trips. So hot that I can feel the heat through the bonnet. :P

Is this normal for an 8v?

Also the temperature guage in the car is reading normal, but does the MFA have some sort of temerature reading? because mine doesn't work. :(

Cheers
Title: Re:Engine temperature
Post by: jasonpi on 19 May 2004, 09:51
right im having a problem with mine and it seems to be the radiator but could also be the oil!! give ur car a mini service and hopefully will sort it out and make sure ur radiator is coming on.
8 v do get hot i think normal oil temp should be 95-112 ish
Title: Re:Engine temperature
Post by: Blue MK2 on 19 May 2004, 10:01
mt 8v gets hot quick. think its due to hot hot weather 8)
Title: Re:Engine temperature
Post by: GavG60 on 19 May 2004, 10:23
my bonnet's always hot after a run, nothing to really worry about, engine temp goes from about 92 when warm up to 115 when beaten with a large stick ;D
Title: Re:Engine temperature
Post by: davidhawkins_78 on 19 May 2004, 11:47
or beaten by an 8 valve ;)
Title: Re:Engine temperature
Post by: marcus123 on 19 May 2004, 12:28
 ::)

 ;)
Title: Re:Engine temperature
Post by: Tornado-red_gti on 19 May 2004, 13:32
Thanks chaps  ;D
 I'll do a service this weekend I think.
Title: Re:Engine temperature
Post by: Davs mk2 16v on 19 May 2004, 23:47
i think thinner oils tend to get hotter quicker, and the temperature is higher aswell.

i had 15w/40 in my car before, top temp:116
now, 10w/40 top temp: anything over 120
Title: Re:Engine temperature
Post by: Tornado-red_gti on 20 May 2004, 09:09

 I normally use Magnatec 10W 40.
But I think I'm going to use that VAG Silver stuff that people on here seem to recommend when I change the oil on saturday.
 I flushed my radiator last night.
The water was very brown!! That can't have helped?
 One more thing are you guys getting the temperature reading from your MFA?
  Cheers
Title: Re:Engine temperature
Post by: Davs mk2 16v on 20 May 2004, 10:59
yeah, my readings are from the MFA.

one thing i have noticed is that the fan doesnt kick in until the cooland needle has just cleared the warning light bulb.

Is that right??
Title: Re:Engine temperature
Post by: tobz. on 20 May 2004, 11:42
I've just picked up a cheap 8v as a run-around, the first day I had it I was stuck in traffic and the needle started creeping past the coolant warning light. To begin with I thought the cooling fan didn't work but shortly after that it kicked in. So I would say it is normal for the temp gauge to get that high before the fan switches on.

Toby
Title: Re:Engine temperature
Post by: Tornado-red_gti on 20 May 2004, 12:07
Yeah I think it is normal. My fan kicks in just after the halfway mark on the guage.
Title: Re:Engine temperature
Post by: helliosjon on 20 May 2004, 13:37
my fan doesnt come on until the needle is 3/4 to the right and the water temp red light is flashing.

That cant be right, any one else have the same on a 89 16V ?
Title: Re:Engine temperature
Post by: Tornado-red_gti on 20 May 2004, 13:57
It doesn't sound right mate. :-\

I think the fan has two switches on it.
Sort of like two settings, one that comes on to keep the temperature normal then another that kicks in if that one fails.
  I'm really not 100% sure about this.
But if i'm right it sounds like your first one is not working.
I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong  ;D
Title: Re:Engine temperature
Post by: tobz. on 20 May 2004, 14:04
Not sure about the two fans settings I didn't think it was that clever.
As for your flashing coolant light helliosjon that light only starts flashing when your coolant level is low it has nothing to do with temperature. I would check your coolant level if it has been flashing recently. Those things are however renown for failing so it may be that you just need to replace the sensor in the top of your expansion bottle.

Toby
Title: Re:Engine temperature
Post by: GavG60 on 20 May 2004, 15:00
or beaten by an 8 valve ;)

keep em comin hawkins...rope around your neck mate. when my vw revolution comes you'll be cryin like a baby

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Engine temperature
Post by: helliosjon on 20 May 2004, 15:57
The garage have just called, they've replaced the fan switch and now the fan comes in at just past the half way marker. ?40 all in.

Hopefully that will do it.

I'll check my water levels tonight.
Title: Re:Engine temperature
Post by: Veedubgt18v on 20 May 2004, 16:10
there is two switches but it is incorporated into 1, it switches the fan on at, say, 90 degrees then the second switch activates if this doesnt work, the second switch spins the fan faster, like a 2 speed idea. only on late cars tho. the temperature for the mfa is a little temp sender on top of the oil filter housing

(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/john.combes2/tpiecebackview.jpg)

see that one at the back? thats your mfa sender, check it is wired up and connected.
Title: Re:Engine temperature
Post by: Tornado-red_gti on 20 May 2004, 16:50
 I wasn't making it up after all. :D
I was worried for a moment. Thought i'd started dreaming about parts that should be on Golfs .....again.  ;)

Title: Re:Engine temperature
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 21 May 2004, 10:11
the easiest way of seeing if its a 2 speed is by pulling the plug of the back of the fan and count the connectors, 2 connectors is single speed, 3 connectors is dual speed.

helioshjohn i got a 89 16v too that gets that hot. i havent had any problems but i do put the heaters on if im in traffic cos i get paranoid. mine came with a small radiator with a single speed fan, im gonna change it all for a bigger rad when i can afford it. It seems stupid that this year 16v has a small rad? did yours have small bumpers on? it could be to do with that maybe ???
Title: Re:Engine temperature
Post by: Veedubgt18v on 21 May 2004, 13:16
the easiest way of seeing if its a 2 speed is by pulling the plug of the back of the fan and count the connectors, 2 connectors is single speed, 3 connectors is dual speed.

helioshjohn i got a 89 16v too that gets that hot. i havent had any problems but i do put the heaters on if im in traffic cos i get paranoid. mine came with a small radiator with a single speed fan, im gonna change it all for a bigger rad when i can afford it. It seems stupid that this year 16v has a small rad? did yours have small bumpers on? it could be to do with that maybe ???

mark you still need to put the 3 dual speed switch in the rad you lazy sod. but i turn my heaters on aswell cos im well paranoid aswell
Title: Re:Engine temperature
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 21 May 2004, 13:31
i done it now ;D
Title: Re:Engine temperature
Post by: Veedubgt18v on 21 May 2004, 14:05
cool! there is an audi twin fan setup on ebay ready converted to fit a golf. would be cool.
Title: Re:Engine temperature
Post by: Gambit on 21 May 2004, 14:18
the 16v radiator is more efficent than the 8v item, it is twin core rad

so you can have a big heavy 8v radiator or a smaller 16v rad that is still more than adequate for the job

my temp never goes above halfway no matter what.
Title: Re:Engine temperature
Post by: helliosjon on 21 May 2004, 17:18
the bloke i bought the car from had the rad replaced 6 months ago.
how can i tell if he had a proper one put on and not some dodgy pattern part?
are there any markings to look for or any way of checking?