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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: baggiemad on 27 September 2008, 16:58
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My 2 front Pirelli p6000 's are coming to the end of their life now, they have been a very very good tyre and lasted me 28000 miles! just wondering what to fit next and like the durability of these but they not so good in the wet, maybe goodyear eagle f1's and i can get Avon ZV1's fairly cheaply too or maybe get some more Pirelli's?
any thoughts?
plus what are best tyre pressures for 195/50/vr15 on my BBS RA's?
thanks for your thoughts
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Toyo T1R's? :huh:
Dude, sort out your sig. It's too large with too many pics.
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Goodyear Eagle F1's, end of story :wink:
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sig sorted, thanks
Eagle F1's very popular it seems but what mileage can i expect? i'm not a boy racer and rarely rag the tyres!
any thoughts on tyre pressures, as info label on door panel only gives pressures for 185/55/15 which were OE tyres..
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Not sure about the pressures mate, but I can tell you from experiance that you'll get loads of miles from F1's ! I've had Pirelli's, Toyos, Avons, Firestones, Uniroyal's and Yokahama's. Avons wear very well and Toyo's and Yoko's give good grip but not one of them was close to being as good all round as the F1's, I cant recommend them enough :smiley:
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My 2 front Pirelli p6000 's are coming to the end of their life now, they have been a very very good tyre and lasted me 28000 miles!
ive got P6000 all round and i use and abuse my tyres, yet they show no wear! as you said not very good grip in the wet, but awesome in the dry. Next set of tyres im gonna try are uniroyal rainsports, i heard in the wet they grip better than in the dry, and with the UK weather, i think a wet tyre is the sensible choice.
Although F1's are in the debate too.
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My 2 front Pirelli p6000 's are coming to the end of their life now, they have been a very very good tyre and lasted me 28000 miles!
ive got P6000 all round and i use and abuse my tyres, yet they show no wear! as you said not very good grip in the wet, but awesome in the dry. Next set of tyres im gonna try are uniroyal rainsports, i heard in the wet they grip better than in the dry, and with the UK weather, i think a wet tyre is the sensible choice.
Although F1's are in the debate too.
p6000s are, without a doubt, the worst tyre i've ever had the misfortune of having.
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sig sorted, thanks
Eagle F1's very popular it seems but what mileage can i expect? i'm not a boy racer and rarely rag the tyres!
any thoughts on tyre pressures, as info label on door panel only gives pressures for 185/55/15 which were OE tyres..
if you don't "rag the tyres" what's the point in getting good ones?
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erm, cos you dont need to be RAGGING it to need good tyres, :huh:
i got p6000s on mine and they have let go many a time in the wet without ragging it :shocked:
never again will i get them, :sick:
good tyres come in handy in NON ragging it situations too :rolleyes:
mates MkII came on nangkegs or summat like that, jesus, even in the dry they were crap, emergency stop killed on of them :undecided:
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erm, cos you dont need to be RAGGING it to need good tyres, :huh:
when driving at normal road speeds, its impossible to tell the difference between brand A and brand B of tyres.
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erm, cos you dont need to be RAGGING it to need good tyres, :huh:
when driving at normal road speeds, its impossible to tell the difference between brand A and brand B of tyres.
until you need to emergency stop. or misjudge a roundabout or something on a road youve not driven before :rolleyes:
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aye alright, but if you have to brake hard, swerve in the wet etc , you then soon find out the difference :rolleyes:
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erm, cos you dont need to be RAGGING it to need good tyres, :huh:
when driving at normal road speeds, its impossible to tell the difference between brand A and brand B of tyres.
until you need to emergency stop. or misjudge a roundabout or something on a road youve not driven before :rolleyes:
5th gear done a test breaking from 70 using budget tyres, sh!tty part worns and top continentals. the difference between the 3 types emergency stopping with no abs was only a matter of feet.
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5th gear done a test breaking from 70 using budget tyres, sh!tty part worns and top continentals. the difference between the 3 types emergency stopping with no abs was only a matter of feet.
Still enough to be the difference between life and death though !
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On Toyo T1-Rs
(http://diamondhell.com/images/rsgallery/original/thomas_cowley15LR.jpg)
That's Sharpie in the passenger seat, enjoying my T1-Rs.
They're great tyres, especially if you like to give things a dose of enthusiasm. They also give good grip when it's moist, which is more than a lot of hoops out there.
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5th gear done a test breaking from 70 using budget tyres, sh!tty part worns and top continentals. the difference between the 3 types emergency stopping with no abs was only a matter of feet.
true. But try to swerve in the wet with a £20 tyre, then try the same with a £80 tyre. You will notice the difference if you end up in the bush or not.
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nowt wrong with a bit of bush diving :grin:
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nowt wrong with a bit of bush diving :grin:
depends on what bush your driving in :wink:
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I've just had a full set of T1-'s fitted.
They seem good, but 've not had a chance to really push them.
When I went to get them my choice list was as follows:
1) Uniroyal Rainsports
2) Goodyear GSD3's or preferably Asymetricals (rave reviews)
3) T1-R's
They only had T1-R's in stock.
Dave
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tbh it all depends on how you drive and where you drive as to the best tyer for you,
if its dry and you suddenly need to swerve yoko A048's will make you turn the corner, but if theer cold and it's wet good luck. i would say for genral driveing matched tyers are more inportant than brand on my van i have some uber cheep mud and snow tyers for what the van dose they are about the best tyer going, the golf has TR1's and they work well on that but would never put tr1's ont he van or cheep mud and snows on the golf.
i have a lot of time for the AVON zv3 had meany sets of them it's not a track tyer nor dose it last forever. they have good to average grip in the dry, supriseingly grippy in the wet and it takes a lot to make them aquaplane also they have tough sidewalls so potholes and curbs don't damage them.
for entusiastic all round driveing i would suggest the TR1 they are a bloody good tyer for the price and look nice as well
avoid nankang ditch finders ,SV stunners and margoni zetas they are supremly crap.
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tbh it all depends on how you drive and where you drive as to the best tyer for you,
if its dry and you suddenly need to swerve yoko A048's will make you turn the corner, but if theer cold and it's wet good luck. i would say for genral driveing matched tyers are more inportant than brand on my van i have some uber cheep mud and snow tyers for what the van dose they are about the best tyer going, the golf has TR1's and they work well on that but would never put tr1's ont he van or cheep mud and snows on the golf.
i have a lot of time for the AVON zv3 had meany sets of them it's not a track tyer nor dose it last forever. they have good to average grip in the dry, supriseingly grippy in the wet and it takes a lot to make them aquaplane also they have tough sidewalls so potholes and curbs don't damage them.
for entusiastic all round driveing i would suggest the TR1 they are a bloody good tyer for the price and look nice as well
avoid nankang ditch finders ,SV stunners and margoni zetas they are supremly crap.
thanks for your thoughts guys
seems its between Goodyear F1's ,Toyo's TR1's and maybe Avon's ZV3's ....p6000's not as good as i thought they were then...probably go for F1's if they cheap enough.. :smiley:
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29-31 psi.
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1) Uniroyal Rainsports
2) Goodyear GSD3's or preferably Asymetricals (rave reviews)
3) T1-R's
The Goodyear Asymetricals are meant to be AWESOME tyres, was pretty sure they didnt make them in smaller sizes tho.
I've just bought a new set of tyres as well and having a LOT of spear time on my hands I read hundreds of reviews and test results, for me it was really between the toyo T1R's or the Eagle F1's.
I went for the toyos as performance wise both are meant to be similar but the toyo tyre has a better ware rate.
Also if in the wet you’re meant to be able to feel if the tyre is about to let go unlike some other brands that just loose all grip without any warning.
Have only had mine fitted for about a week and have to say they feel great....camskill.co.uk for the best prices :wink:
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camskill.co.uk for the best prices
Unless you're in Bristol, in which case £42 fitted including VAT from Venture Tyres saves a lot of running around.
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camskill.co.uk for the best prices
Unless you're in Bristol, in which case £42 fitted including VAT from Venture Tyres saves a lot of running around.
That's pretty good, I was looking at getting some CEAT jobbies that are meant to have good wet traction and that comes to £86 for the 2 front. Might have to have a day trip to bizzle sometime soon, that's if Toyo do the T1R's in 14" format.... ?
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camskill.co.uk for the best prices
Unless you're in Bristol, in which case £42 fitted including VAT from Venture Tyres saves a lot of running around.
That's pretty good, I was looking at getting some CEAT jobbies that are meant to have good wet traction and that comes to £86 for the 2 front. Might have to have a day trip to bizzle sometime soon, that's if Toyo do the T1R's in 14" format.... ?
don't get ceat because they're a budget make.
i had the toyos on 14s on previous rims, 195/55/14. check mytyres or camskill for the sizes available. if it's a random size chances are you'll have to get it ordered in from the net. mind the 14s will be a wee bit dearer than the 15s as theyre a less common size. (about 45-50 each delievered iirc)
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BBS RAs back on the Golf this weekend after a refurb...
Went for Goodyear f1 GSD3, 195/50/15
Pressure - 30psi
(http://www.gsahota.com/gti/ra_1.jpg)
(http://www.gsahota.com/gti/ra_2.jpg)
(http://www.gsahota.com/gti/ra_3.jpg)
(http://www.gsahota.com/gti/ra_4.jpg)
(http://www.gsahota.com/gti/ra_5.jpg)
(http://www.gsahota.com/gti/ra_6.jpg)
(http://www.gsahota.com/gti/ra_7.jpg)
Had to raise the coilies a couple of inches, ride feels nice and comfy once again :smiley:
Been running Toyo proxys on the Split rims this summer 195/45, car feels so much better now!
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All this talk about do expensive tyres make a difference...
The main bit of performance I'm really interested in is aqua-planing reduction, and I think theres a BIG difference between a budget tyre and a premium tyre at 70mph on a soaking wet motorway.
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^^ Then you want Rainsports.
Personally 195/50 Eagle F1s without a stretch on a 6.5 or 7J are just awesome.
I also have them as 195/45 on an 8J.....Well, they look nice :laugh:
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^^ Then you want Rainsports.
See my choice list above - they topped the list, but unfortunately they didn't have any in stock and I was too lazy to shop around (it was for the MOT).
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which on eis better? rainsport 1 or rainsport 2?
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f**king love Uniroyals, Rallye 550 (or similar) were the ones i had
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erm, cos you dont need to be RAGGING it to need good tyres, :huh:
when driving at normal road speeds, its impossible to tell the difference between brand A and brand B of tyres.
until you need to emergency stop. or misjudge a roundabout or something on a road youve not driven before :rolleyes:
5th gear done a test breaking from 70 using budget tyres, sh!tty part worns and top continentals. the difference between the 3 types emergency stopping with no abs was only a matter of feet.
But on certain roads, ones with cliffs at the edge for example, a couple of feet is the difference between a bruised ego and certain death, doom and destruction!
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But on certain roads, ones with cliffs at the edge for example
where do you live?
the difference between a few feet is negligable because you'll have already lost the majority of the speed by that point.
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5th gear done a test breaking from 70 using budget tyres, sh!tty part worns and top continentals. the difference between the 3 types emergency stopping with no abs was only a matter of feet.
you share my passion, let's start a club together. i want to castrate people who spell brakes like breaks. tires and tyres always annoyed me too, although both are acceptable, perhaps i'm too pedantic.
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=90443.msg747903#msg747903
Get chopping then......
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5th gear done a test breaking from 70 using budget tyres, sh!tty part worns and top continentals. the difference between the 3 types emergency stopping with no abs was only a matter of feet.
you share my passion, let's start a club together. i want to castrate people who spell brakes like breaks. tires and tyres always annoyed me too, although both are acceptable, perhaps i'm too pedantic.
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=90443.msg747903#msg747903
Get chopping then......
thanks post-stalker. as much as i try to provide a 100% accurate service, sometimes typing errors will occur.
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:kiss:
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5th gear done a test breaking from 70 using budget tyres, sh!tty part worns and top continentals. the difference between the 3 types emergency stopping with no abs was only a matter of feet.
you share my passion, let's start a club together. i want to castrate people who spell brakes like breaks. tires and tyres always annoyed me too, although both are acceptable, perhaps i'm too pedantic.
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=90443.msg747903#msg747903
Get chopping then......
Thanks post-stalker. As much as i try to provide a 100% accurate service, sometimes typing errors will occur.
EFA :laugh: