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General => General discussion => Topic started by: big_el on 20 September 2008, 00:00
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anyone had one of these yet ?
i was driving along a road near my house and there was a woman in front swerving all over the place and going about 15mph. i noticed a van behind me and waited until the next street light to shine over it to see what it was. couldnt see anything though. i just had a bad feeling but this woman was doing my head in. so on the next available straight, while no cars were coming the other way, i did her. but just before i overtook her there was something saying in my head dont do it, your nearly home but this little rush came over me so i did it. so the van followed me by overtaking her. the next thing blue flashing lights. i sh!t it as i got my 6 points off my licence this summer. pulled me over said i was lucky that they werent the traffic police because they would of thrown the book at me but because they werent, they give me this notice which is just a warning but it stays on record for 12 months so if i do it again my car will impounded. i was so relived. no fine, no points. i know i wont be doing that again lol
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Never had one, but i thought you get 2 chances and then on the 3rd the police can impound your vehicle
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The warning is issued under S.59 of the Police Reform Act 2002. The legislation came in to deal specifically with "anti social" use of a motor vehicle. I have heard of people being reported for playing their stereo's too loud and even having an exhaust noise that was deemed to be excessive. Basically if you are caught driving / acting in whats deemed to be an anti social manner in another vehicle or if any person is caught driving your vehicle in an anti social manner the vehicle will be impounded.
Not great ... :sad:
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The warning is issued under S.59 of the Police Reform Act 2002. The legislation came in to deal specifically with "anti social" use of a motor vehicle. I have heard of people being reported for playing their stereo's too loud and even having an exhaust noise that was deemed to be excessive. Basically if you are caught driving / acting in whats deemed to be an anti social manner in another vehicle or if any person is caught driving your vehicle in an anti social manner the vehicle will be impounded.
Not great ... :sad:
are you a copper by any chance?
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nope ....
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lol
he said to me that this stays on record for twelve months and if anything comes up with this car under this s.59 banner again ill get my car impounded.
£105 release plus £12 for every 24 hours its in there.
im just glad that i didnt get any points to be honest. just thought i should let people know that this section will do you for anything now like garethmk1 said.
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Yes its awful - a kind of one size fits all for just about anything car related :angry: awful ...
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just seems like another way to keep the police busy IMO, not many donut shops in the uk is there :wink:
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so what did you do wrong? your allowed to overtake someone doing 15mph
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i got one 2 yrs ago for eating a mcds in a car park, where the saxo lot were doing doughnuts, i was parked well away from them engine off etc, cop turned up they all left i stayed and got the ticket as i didnt grass em up,i didnt even know them..
the copper wouldnt even feel my bonnet which was cold by then so it couldnt have been me, needless to say i was pi@@ed off...
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i got one 2 yrs ago for eating a mcds in a car park, where the saxo lot were doing doughnuts, i was parked well away from them engine off etc, cop turned up they all left i stayed and got the ticket as i didnt grass em up,i didnt even know them..
the copper wouldnt even feel my bonnet which was cold by then so it couldnt have been me, needless to say i was pi@@ed off...
Dude that's harsh! Was that up by the leisure centre?
Nick
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what was the speed limit on the road???? i would have contested it like hell, just for overtaking someone that was driving slowly doesnt mean that you are being antisocial seems like they were being tw@ts with you think yourself lucky you didnt get six points :rolleyes:
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the main problem with section 59's is that theyre just dished out on the suspicion of... i got a few when i was 12-15 for riding a mini moto on a car park, also got one when i was 16 for riding along a 100 metre section of footpath to outside my friends house, everyone who lives there (8 houses) drives up said bit of path and parks outside their house...
i argued and said fair enough, but i want every single one of the cars there issued with the same warning... there is no road way to where they were parked, he got arsey with me so i decided to leave it and he never did warn any of the other cars...
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so what did you do wrong? your allowed to overtake someone doing 15mph
the reason, they said, was because i overtook the woman after constantly being up her arse. i admit i did but not for two miles like he was trying to say.
so it was for overtaking, which on my part was not dangerous because there was no car in sight coming the other way and for harrasing her.
what was the speed limit on the road???? i would have contested it like hell, just for overtaking someone that was driving slowly doesnt mean that you are being antisocial seems like they were being tw@ts with you think yourself lucky you didnt get six points :rolleyes:
the spped limit was 30 mate. i couldnt tell you what i was doing, keeping my eyes on the road. but it wasnt that fast.
im just glad it wasnt a traffic cop
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we have the "community speedwatch" lot around my area... they really get on my wick! :angry:
fair play monitoring speeds outside schools (at school times) or within housing estates... but on the main A road on my way home? give me a break! the policeman training them should be doing some REAL police work. recently this road has dropped from a 60 to a 30 limit, and its now MORE dangerous trying to continuously monitor your speed. get a grip!!! :angry:
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Best thing to do, is if you're genuinely shocked your getting a warning is ask the coppers for their collar numbers and the name and number of their superior officer...
Does make them go.. umm ... ummm
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Threatend by the police with one the other day for setting my sub and amp up in the street, apparently i have a really loud (standard) exhaust which i jump in and rev up everyday, only thing is its my neighbour with his mk3 gti with a decat and straight through exhaust and lets his 6yr old son rev it bloody up!!
try telling the police that tho !
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nick, i was in down grange car park, i was up by bins, they were down other end
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Well... I've been threatened with a section 59 a few times just for sitting around in car parks talking and that, not actualy doing anything wrong like handbrake turns or playing stupidly loud music etc..
I got told that they had given me a section 59 before, but if you dont actualy sign anything then you aint got one! So basicaly if you didnt sign anything then your alright fella! :wink:
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i signed it :sad:
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Ah bummer :sad:
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ah well, ill just have to watch myself now!
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Well... I've been threatened with a section 59 a few times just for sitting around in car parks talking and that, not actualy doing anything wrong like handbrake turns or playing stupidly loud music etc..
I got told that they had given me a section 59 before, but if you dont actualy sign anything then you aint got one! So basicaly if you didnt sign anything then your alright fella! :wink:
so instead the copper will just throw the book at you and you will probably got o court, iv never heard of anyone up here getting a section 59
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YOU CAN CONTEST THIS!
i was issued one by a youngish police officer because i pulled away from a set of lights and accidently slipped the clutch a bit too quickly resulting in my tyres 'chirping' a tiny bit.
He followed me down the road, pulled me over and gave me some bull$hit story about scaring the driver next to me!
I asked for his PC number and told him politely that it was a mistake and i had recently had a new clutch fitted (true).
I went down to the station and asked to speak to the officer in charge, then told that i felt very unfairly treated and explained the situation and told him that i felt as if i had been discriminated against.
He then checked his system and said the officer who had issued me the section 59 had been giving them out a bit too hastily and that i wasn't the first to raise a complaint.
then proceeded to tell me not to worry about it and said he would have a chat with the officer in question.
If you are unfortunate enough to get issued one - fight your corner, it's worth a go! :smiley:
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yeah but i overtook someone who was doing 15mph in a 30mph. i cant contest that even if i checked that no one was coming on a quiet road. looks like im just going to have to put up with it.
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yeah but i overtook someone who was doing 15mph in a 30mph. i cant contest that even if i checked that no one was coming on a quiet road. looks like im just going to have to put up with it.
can i ask what a broken line in the middle of the road means? If you know the answer then bloody contest it...it means you can overtake if safe to do so and without breaking the speed limit.
You can also contest it on the grounds of the actual dangerous driving of the woman in front, as 15mph in a 30mph zone is not exactly safe nor courteous is it? How many "normal" road users would get miffed at this? I'm sure most. She was rude and kept her speed down to p!ss you off resulting in you sitting behind her...how slow would you be going to create distance between you and her and what would the minimum braking distance be at 15mph? All this and more is what i'd be saying, along with you overtook her as well you tw4ts!!!
How close were they to you...why didn;t they pull her? Its all down to sterotyping and therefore they didn't follow anti-discriminatory practise. Tell em to get feck and contest it... the form you signed will have his collar number on.
if people don;'t contest then how do we expect the government to sit up and listen if we all lie down like good little dogs...we are fast becoming pets to the governments whims and do as they say without thinking and i blame television!
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Found this, dont know if it will help but worth a look ?
http://www.glass-uk.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=267&Itemid=492