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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: WobGTI on 11 September 2008, 23:49

Title: Someone give me some good reasons not to....
Post by: WobGTI on 11 September 2008, 23:49: Swap my GTI for an R32 tomorrow... Dad's got an 06 R32 DSG in and I need some good reasons not to get it ahhhh!!
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Post by: Cass on 12 September 2008, 00:08: Can't think of a single one - unless it's not BLACK :rolleyes:

Cass
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Post by: 08micsta on 12 September 2008, 08:08: Cos a remapped GTi will hold onto a .:R32.........IF its dry :lipsrsealed:

Cos the GTI (in my opinion) is more unique looking.

And you are gonna get screwed on them taxes.

And the resale of .:R's is at an all time low. If your dad is doing a direct swap I say he is scamming you cos he will get better resale on your GTi than on his .:R :nerd:

Mike
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Post by: L555BAT on 12 September 2008, 08:28: To quote EVO magazine.
VW Golf Mk5 :Character and ability: the original GTI is back *****
VW Golf R32 Mk5 :Tractions great and you'll love the soundtrack- We'd still have a GTI ****

***** <===That's supposed to be stars btw. :smiley:
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Post by: R32UK on 12 September 2008, 08:30: nice try Micsta!! Have you been to the UK this year... You would have been very lucky to find a whole dry day :huh:

Take it for a nice long drive then come back and tell us why you wouldnt want it :wink:

p.s. I have been averaging 29mpg since calming down a little, but by no means hanging around so consumption isnt as bad as you think either :smug:
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Post by: 08micsta on 12 September 2008, 08:33: True.... I forget Im from SA sometimes where it hardly ever rains :evil: (Except for the last month its been pouring)
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Post by: Peskarik on 12 September 2008, 08:37: It is sensationally simple to make a decision:

just get R32 and be done with it
or
just forget about R32 and be done with it

How's that for advice?

"..my body says go, but my mind says no. If you wanna be with me, baby there's a price to pay..."
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Post by: 182_blue on 12 September 2008, 08:40: I reckon the fact my local dealer has had an r32 sat on the fourcourt for months would put me off, it would need to be mega cheap for me to buy it, then I would still actually keep the ed30
Oh and racing/ speeding/ driving quickly in the wet is a little silly imo so that's no excuse to buy the r32 either
Only plus I can think is the noise
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Post by: R32UK on 12 September 2008, 08:45: I was in the dealers monday and heard a guy negotiating on a new R32... £29500 was the figure I was hearing :lipsrsealed:

I think with the price of crude oil coming down nearly 50% over the last few weeks.. we will see that R32 prices will stabilize and those that sold will be feeling a little silly :rolleyes:
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Post by: SteveP on 12 September 2008, 08:48: ^^^ I though they had stopped production on the R32??
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Post by: R32UK on 12 September 2008, 08:53: Quote from: SteveP on 12 September 2008, 08:48
^^^ I though they had stopped production on the R32??

Possibly... They were going through a list so might have been a stock list.
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Post by: topher on 12 September 2008, 08:55: Depends what your circumstances are... for example I would've gone for a GTI if I did a lot of inner city driving. Resale of ALL cars is pathetic at the moment so that shouldn't be a major issue. Fuel-wise they aren't as bad as people think, 29/30mpg on the motorway is easy (although the DSG models don't seem to be quite as economical). Tax differences.. well as I've said before its the equivalent of about 8 quid a month.. boohoo.

Oh and the 3 companies in the states are very close to releasing their turbo kits, for around $7000USD which is slightly more appealing than the £20k+ quotes I had from HPA.

If you don't swap atleast nick his brakes :grin:

And yes R32 production has stopped, there won't be a V6 Golf again.. so there is a certain amount of exclusivity (not counting vw shows i've only seen 4 others on the road)
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Post by: SteveP on 12 September 2008, 08:56: Quote from: R32UK on 12 September 2008, 08:53
Quote from: SteveP on 12 September 2008, 08:48
^^^ I though they had stopped production on the R32??

Possibly... They were going through a list so might have been a stock list.

Then he must have more money than sence to be looking at a prebuilt R32 for £29.5K :shocked: :shocked:
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Post by: R32UK on 12 September 2008, 09:00: Quote from: SteveP on 12 September 2008, 08:56
Quote from: R32UK on 12 September 2008, 08:53
Quote from: SteveP on 12 September 2008, 08:48
^^^ I though they had stopped production on the R32??

Possibly... They were going through a list so might have been a stock list.

Then he must have more money than sence to be looking at a prebuilt R32 for £29.5K :shocked: :shocked:

TBH I certainly would not be paying that much.. but if your going for a fully spec'd one and go to a dealers then you almost deserve to be ripped off :rolleyes:
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Post by: 182_blue on 12 September 2008, 09:07: You mean wouldnt don't you

Quote from: R32UK on 12 September 2008, 09:00
Quote from: SteveP on 12 September 2008, 08:56
Quote from: R32UK on 12 September 2008, 08:53
Quote from: SteveP on 12 September 2008, 08:48
^^^ I though they had stopped production on the R32??

Possibly... They were going through a list so might have been a stock list.

Then he must have more money than sence to be looking at a prebuilt R32 for £29.5K :shocked: :shocked:

TBH I certainly would be paying that much.. but if your going for a fully spec'd one and go to a dealers then you almost deserve to be ripped off :rolleyes:
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Post by: R32UK on 12 September 2008, 09:14: Yeah sorry! WOULDNT BE is what I was meant to say.. too early.

will edit
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Post by: WobGTI on 12 September 2008, 09:28: Thoughts?

Make: Volkswagen
Model: Golf Hatchback Petrol
Derivative: 3.2 V6 R32 DSG 3dr Automatic
Registration: 0606
Owners: 1
Mileage: 19,300
Body Colour: Deep Blue Pearl
History: Full franchise service history
Price: £15500
Origin: UK
Car Status: Car Physical V5 available
Additional Specification: Vat Qualifying Car, Metallic paint, Leather, Alloy wheels, Climate Control, Electric windows, CD player, Xenon Headlights
Additional Comment: Would consider a swap for VW stock. 1 OWNER, 2 KEYS, SERVICED AT 8K, MULTIFUNCTION S/WHEEL, FULL LEATHER, H/SEATS, 1 Small pin dent in bonnet, All Continental Tyres very good,
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Post by: Saint Steve on 12 September 2008, 09:35: For 15k , get an edition 30!!!, they are around for that figure!. Cheaper to run, has GTi thrills and some more to the mix. Looks better imo, i know Toph has said its only £8 a month tax increase, but remember you dont pay it every month, £440 a year is a much bigger hit then £260. Your visit the fuel station a day quicker then with a GTi, and its still does have some sort of exclusivity.

The only thing that has a huge plus over any GTi is the V6 soundtrack. Its underpowered and tooo heavy.

But the R badge has always had the Racing pedigree with it, so if your want it , go get it!
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Post by: Cass on 12 September 2008, 09:36: Extra £500 off for the bonnet dink :laugh:

Cass
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Post by: No Golf Clubs at all on 12 September 2008, 09:42: Sounds a good deal, i would be tempted but the sale values of my gti would mean I would have dropped about £6k since march :cry:
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Post by: WobGTI on 12 September 2008, 09:45: its already like £1k under trade...

hmm i will drive it this evening and give my full review :) it'll be my first time in an R, drove an old v6 4motion which was fun and plenty of different cooper S's and the odd supercar

the thing where i live is, even driving the gti like miss daisy its so hard to get over like 23mpg because of the stop start driving, will the r32 be much worse?

one of the things that is putting me off is the fact there is a certain ethnically challenged person in this area with an 08 plate one and a seat so low it looks like a 2yr old is driving..

ps who's in bournemouth!

watch this space :evil:
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Post by: WobGTI on 12 September 2008, 09:47: I might just nick the xenons and have a thoroughly better car! haha

can you swap xenons between mk5's?
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Post by: Cass on 12 September 2008, 09:51: Not without a LOT of work and expense. They need the self levelling system otherwise they won't be road legal. Not a job for the faint hearted :shocked:

Cass
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Post by: WobGTI on 12 September 2008, 09:51: is that the level sensor on the rear axel?
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Post by: Cass on 12 September 2008, 09:54: Quote from: WobGTI on 12 September 2008, 09:51
is that the level sensor on the rear axel?

Install link here:

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3552517&postid=43542973#43542973

Cass
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Post by: R32UK on 12 September 2008, 10:07: Quote from: Phil Mcavity on 12 September 2008, 09:35

The only thing that has a huge plus over any GTi is the V6 soundtrack. Its underpowered and tooo heavy.

But the R badge has always had the Racing pedigree with it, so if your want it , go get it!

But still quicker than both the Gti and ED30 :wink:

And probably even a remapped Ed30 300 days of the year in the UK.. but of course speed is only half the argument ED30 owners shout about. think about the V6 sound, blue tinted glass, xenon's, AWD stability in any weather, exclusivity, and or course the veyron stlye interior trim :grin:
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Post by: Greenouse on 12 September 2008, 10:10: I think it's in the best colour for an R32 (sorry R32UK/Manu :embarassed:)

How many miles a year do you do anyway? If less than 10k and you want it go for it!
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Post by: joesgti on 12 September 2008, 10:21: dads just baught a candy white R32 in singapore :smiley: :smiley:
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Post by: Pirelli_P on 12 September 2008, 10:38: Simple answer IMO is no don't get an R32.

Don't rate any of the wheels at all, don't rate the chrome GT grill either. Plus tax will rape you as well as consumption.
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Post by: WobGTI on 12 September 2008, 10:41: ohhh my god, putting xenons on my car would give an asprin a headache...

im reserving my decision on gti vs r32 until later I do have a soft spot for throaty engines and i doubt it'll disappoint!
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Post by: 182_blue on 12 September 2008, 10:59: It won't be loads worse, my mate does simillar stop start driving in his r32 and he does between 17 & 19 mpg, that's working out from brim to empty not using the computer
Quote from: WobGTI on 12 September 2008, 09:45
its already like £1k under trade...

hmm i will drive it this evening and give my full review :) it'll be my first time in an R, drove an old v6 4motion which was fun and plenty of different cooper S's and the odd supercar

the thing where i live is, even driving the gti like miss daisy its so hard to get over like 23mpg because of the stop start driving, will the r32 be much worse?

one of the things that is putting me off is the fact there is a certain ethnically challenged person in this area with an 08 plate one and a seat so low it looks like a 2yr old is driving..

ps who's in bournemouth!

watch this space :evil:
k
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Post by: No Golf Clubs at all on 12 September 2008, 12:27: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=110288612193&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=001 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=110288612193&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=001)

Not suggesting this guy is dodgy, but it is relisted now after apparently actually selling on the 18th August for £16,601! It is a 2008, DSG...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=110278068555&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=001 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=110278068555&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=001)
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Post by: Hurdy on 12 September 2008, 13:10: I'd be tempted at that price, but only if I was going down the road of giving it Turbo power :evil:

450bhp mmmmmmmmmmmm :drool:
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Post by: WobGTI on 12 September 2008, 13:26: lol hurdy its always the powerrrrrrrrrr isnt it!
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Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 12 September 2008, 13:54: Quote from: WobGTI on 12 September 2008, 09:51
is that the level sensor on the rear axel?

Yup.

But you also need the front level sensor. The control ECU. All the wiring. All the headlamp washer gubbins. A new switch. And it will all need recoding with vag-com.
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Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 12 September 2008, 14:01: Quote from: WobGTI on 12 September 2008, 10:41
ohhh my god, putting xenons on my car would give an asprin a headache...

LOL

Quote from: WobGTI on 12 September 2008, 10:41
im reserving my decision on gti vs r32 until later I do have a soft spot for throaty engines and i doubt it'll disappoint!

Get an RS4 then! Throaty engine sound which will make the VR6 sound like a lamb! :tongue: :evil: Xenon-Plus headlamps with AFL (they bend aroud corners) :wink: :smiley: :laugh:
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Post by: WobGTI on 12 September 2008, 14:04: omg dont eveenn get me started on the rs4, it's utter sex - i was lucky enough to be going though the tunnel just before embankment in london with an R8 about a week ago and i almost had to stop for some 5 knuckle shuffling!
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Post by: Komenda on 12 September 2008, 14:07: Cue TT to break out the Porn :tongue:
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Post by: Hurdy on 12 September 2008, 14:09: Quote from: WobGTI on 12 September 2008, 13:26
lol hurdy its always the powerrrrrrrrrr isnt it!

LOL, hell yeah :evil:

A little control comes in handy too though :wink:
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Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 12 September 2008, 14:25: Quote from: WobGTI on 12 September 2008, 14:04
omg dont eveenn get me started on the rs4, it's utter sex - i was lucky enough to be going though the tunnel just before embankment in london with an R8 about a week ago and i almost had to stop for some 5 knuckle shuffling!

Ha ha.

See my sig. I have to have a very restrained right hand on a daily basis! :tongue: :evil:
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Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 12 September 2008, 14:29: Quote from: Komenda on 12 September 2008, 14:07

Cue TT to break out the Porn :tongue:

Moi . . . . surely not . . . . :rolleyes:

Aww, fcuk it, here we go:
(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t108/Teutonic_Tamer/my%20B7%20RS4%20saloon/a5a7cfb5.jpg)
(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t108/Teutonic_Tamer/my%20B7%20RS4%20saloon/4f868d89.jpg)
(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t108/Teutonic_Tamer/my%20B7%20RS4%20saloon/060a8906.jpg)

:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
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Post by: WobGTI on 12 September 2008, 14:52: err.......squirt!
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Post by: Pirelli_P on 12 September 2008, 14:54: Not bad at all if you don't mind me saying!
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Post by: wellzee on 12 September 2008, 15:11: good god that engine is pure sex!
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Post by: WobGTI on 12 September 2008, 15:14: Say 10 years time.. or maybe 5 would one of those fit into a Mk5 GTI?
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Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 12 September 2008, 15:24: Quote from: wellzee on 12 September 2008, 15:11
good god that engine is pure sex!

The carbon fibre covers are genuine OEM too.

When you first fire it up in the morning by poking below, it literally shakes the whole car from side to side
(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t108/Teutonic_Tamer/my%20B7%20RS4%20saloon/615a131a.jpg)
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Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 12 September 2008, 15:29: So if you see this menacing shape appearing in your mirrors, you know what to do! :wink: :grin:
(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t108/Teutonic_Tamer/my%20B7%20RS4%20saloon/AudiB7RS4saloon-39-edit.jpg)
(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t108/Teutonic_Tamer/my%20B7%20RS4%20saloon/AudiB7RS4saloon-38-edit.jpg)
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Post by: Pirelli_P on 12 September 2008, 15:50: If i could impart some wisdom upon yourself; it would be better in black! :evil:
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Post by: Pabs32 on 12 September 2008, 16:16: because the front end of an R32 lookslike a Passat.

I'd have a GTI front and a R32 rear if I could choose
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Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on 12 September 2008, 16:17: Quote from: Pirelli_P on 12 September 2008, 15:50
If i could impart some wisdom upon yourself; it would be better in black! :evil:

Would you come round every week and clean the ba$tard then? :wink: :smiley:
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Post by: Pirelli_P on 12 September 2008, 16:25: Quote from: Teutonic_Tamer on 12 September 2008, 16:17
Quote from: Pirelli_P on 12 September 2008, 15:50
If i could impart some wisdom upon yourself; it would be better in black! :evil:

Would you come round every week and clean the ba$tard then? :wink: :smiley:

haha yesss if you let me take it to the petrol station to fill up with fuel (your paying of course). Im sure I would be in full time employment between washing and cleaning and fuelling! i'd even consider letting you drive it at the weekends! haha :wink:
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Post by: WobGTI on 14 September 2008, 19:08: K, that car is utterly awesome without a doubt, the noise it makes is actually complete filth!

it was the in-gear instant acceleration and the torque that i noticed the most...

But, just couldnt do it - it was an extra £300 to insure a year, £140 more to tax a year and im coming upto the end of my 40p per mile so its gonna be difficult enough to run the gti let alone something even more expensive!

dsg is as good as i remember from my old touran - launch control was good fun!

it had the 10speaker stereo with the 6cd in dash and the TIM button thing?
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Post by: dan_apps on 14 September 2008, 19:14: Wob what are ya doin???? ive only just read this thread!!

get it get it get it get it get it get it get it

all im gona say is V6 power!!!!!!!
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Post by: 182_blue on 14 September 2008, 19:15: only r32 I would have is one with some turbos bolted on LOL
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Post by: WobGTI on 14 September 2008, 19:18: random one also, drivers door sill has like a 5cm long black hole with a plastc guard round it and stuff? what was that for!
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Post by: 182_blue on 14 September 2008, 19:24: you need this on a MK5 , then i would have one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjgaxdl-z-g
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Post by: WobGTI on 14 September 2008, 19:33: jesus that is insanely quick, wonder what z4 it was
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Post by: Rhyso on 14 September 2008, 19:35: Quote from: WobGTI on 14 September 2008, 19:33
jesus that is insanely quick, wonder what z4 it was

think its the 3.0 but even the Z4M wouldn't keep up with that R32 :cool:
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Post by: WobGTI on 14 September 2008, 19:43: I had a play against this....

(http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn57/rsymes2k/Cannonball/P2080456.jpg)

dunno if anybody knows it!?

and I was driving a Z4M, pissed all over it...

(http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn57/rsymes2k/Cannonball/P2080465.jpg)

There was a blue r32 that we did aswell that day
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Post by: WobGTI on 14 September 2008, 19:44: p.s, check this!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TeMllQwACow&NR=1
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Post by: 182_blue on 14 September 2008, 19:47: Quote from: WobGTI on 14 September 2008, 19:44
p.s, check this!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TeMllQwACow&NR=1

and this one http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-w-71yu26ss
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Post by: WobGTI on 14 September 2008, 20:03: whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat!! did that thing pass a ferrari/gt3? like it was standing still?
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Post by: gazbutmk5gti on 14 September 2008, 22:23: Quote from: 182_blue on 14 September 2008, 19:47
Quote from: WobGTI on 14 September 2008, 19:44
p.s, check this!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TeMllQwACow&NR=1

and this one http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-w-71yu26ss

I giggled all the way through that :laugh:
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Post by: Altered Carbon on 14 September 2008, 22:50: Quote from: gazbutmk5gti on 14 September 2008, 22:23
Quote from: 182_blue on 14 September 2008, 19:47
Quote from: WobGTI on 14 September 2008, 19:44
p.s, check this!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TeMllQwACow&NR=1

and this one http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-w-71yu26ss

I giggled all the way through that :laugh:

Superb!