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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: richard s on 04 September 2008, 21:29

Title: power steering rack ?
Post by: richard s on 04 September 2008, 21:29
would a power steering rack from a mk3 gti/vr6 fit into a mk2 gti if you used the mk3 rack with mk2 track rods and track rod ends
cheers
Title: Re: power steering rack ?
Post by: Mr Blue on 04 September 2008, 22:14
by the looks of it i think the mk3 one is a few inches longer. I think the pipes are diffrent too.
Title: Re: power steering rack ?
Post by: richard s on 04 September 2008, 22:22
cheers blue
so it looks like a no go then
Title: Re: power steering rack ?
Post by: rubjonny on 05 September 2008, 10:01
I think it would work actually, afaik all the extra length is made up from the track rods.  it will certainly bolt to the subframe! not sure about the PAS pipes, I think they're the same fittings but not sure.  Other issue is I believe the UJ is different, but you can just fit a MK3 one.
Title: Re: power steering rack ?
Post by: richard s on 05 September 2008, 20:20
cheers john
Title: Re: power steering rack ?
Post by: bigman_10 on 05 September 2008, 21:27
if you want a mk2 power steering set up i have all the bits you need. i was going to to it to mine and bought all the bits but i just liked the manual rack too much. I'm in nottingham aswell so not too far from you.

make me an offer if your interested
Title: Re: power steering rack ?
Post by: richard s on 05 September 2008, 21:39
cheers for the offer but i am getting info for future reference as i am thinking about fitting a vr engine next year
Title: Re: power steering rack ?
Post by: bigman_10 on 05 September 2008, 21:52
oh nice! in that case i'd channge the whole of the mk3 front over. sub frame, wishbones, driveshafts, track rods the lot! That way you'd be able to mount your VR and get a widetrack front at the same time, with relative ease.

You'd have to be carefull about knuckles though, as VRs would be 5 stud so you would need to swap the knuckles for a 4 stud mk3, also your current engine would sit on the mk3 subframe.

Title: Re: power steering rack ?
Post by: rubjonny on 06 September 2008, 11:19
yes you need at least a mk3 subframe (any model will do, some seats have the one you need too) for the rear engine mount, mk3 rack with mk2 narrowtrack track rods bones, shafts etc.  main issue is sourcing the front crossmember as you need a corrado VR6 one, mk3 wont fit.  Might be able to customise a front engine mount to work though.  the MK2 radiator support half of the crossmember can be retained, or you can use a rado vr one.

4stud hubs on 5 stud wishbones dont work well as the wheel ends up off centre in the arch, there was a thread on the vortex showing the balljoint mounting ended up 5mm or so forward or back.  MK3 4 stud or Passat 4 stud widetrack wishbones, track rods n shafts would work, or you could just go 5 stud.

Going 5 stud means you need a different anti-roll bar, no prob if you haver the whole setup but not so good if you already have an uprated eibach set or something, a MK3/Passat 4 stud widetrack setup will work with a MK2 anti roll bar :)
Title: Re: power steering rack ?
Post by: richard s on 07 September 2008, 20:31
dont really want to wide track it as have got g60 calipers with new hubs and wheel bearings
i have been doing a lot of reading up on mk vr6.com and have found a lot of good info but couldnt find anything relating to q i asked about rack
but as usual you guys have the answers needed
cheers
Title: Re: power steering rack ?
Post by: filthy on 09 September 2008, 19:16
I'm 99% sure the racks are the same length and the extra length is made up from the track rods, which is why if you buy a recon'd rack, it comes without track rods...

The hoses have the same fitment, and will fit, buit the transfer pipes (metal ones on the rack itself) are different...the mk2 pipes are longer than the mk3
Title: Re: power steering rack ?
Post by: richard s on 09 September 2008, 20:40
cheers for the help guys but this is something that is going to have to go on the back burner for now as it looks like i could be looking for work in the next couple of weeks