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Title: to those with a mk2 16v who want more power...
Post by: tom26 on 03 September 2008, 10:00
I have recently had my engine converted to an ABF engine found in the mk3 16v golf.
If you are interested, have a read of this guide and check out the performance figures given at the end :smiley:

                                      http://www.clubgti.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=133418 (http://www.clubgti.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=133418)
Title: Re: to those with a mk2 16v who want more power...
Post by: jv on 03 September 2008, 13:18
impressive 1/4 mile time he lists!

happy with the car then sir?
Title: Re: to those with a mk2 16v who want more power...
Post by: tom26 on 03 September 2008, 21:01
yeah not entirely sure about that?
but it's certainly a damn sight quicker than before!the miltek downpipe and system sound really nice, and the g60 brakes are far better than the 256mm jobbies.
now for the interior...
Title: Re: to those with a mk2 16v who want more power...
Post by: Conker on 03 September 2008, 22:46
Due to the amount of info on this I've read already, I've gotten a bit confused in the fog. I don't want to thread hijack, but thought Tom might know the answer seen as though he's just had the ABF done.  I'm after a quick answer to this question...

With a stock Mk2 KR 16v, you can either bolt a 2.0L block (9a, ABF etc.) to the KR head, or as Tom has done, actually fit the entire ABF system. So... Is the main benefit of going to the trouble of fitting the whole ABF system that you can then improve the ignition/fueling more easily (and if you wanted to add megasquirt for example) because the system is fully electronic, as opposed to K-Jet etc???

Title: Re: to those with a mk2 16v who want more power...
Post by: tom26 on 04 September 2008, 10:20
^ mine is using the ABF block and head, but retains the KR inlet manifold and Kjet fueling - this is because i plan on going down the throttle bodies route as soon as i can afford the kit.
To change over to the fully electronic system is (ABF loom etc) is a serious mission!
Title: Re: to those with a mk2 16v who want more power...
Post by: Diamond Hell on 04 September 2008, 11:40
To change over to the fully electronic system is (ABF loom etc) is a serious mission!

Don't be such a girl.

It's not so hard.  You just need to be methodical with it and have the right diagrams.

Bodies and MS are clearly the way to go though.
Title: Re: to those with a mk2 16v who want more power...
Post by: tom26 on 04 September 2008, 14:50
^ ha ha. too much of a job for me though...
yeah i'm a fan of the mega squirt and thottle body route!
Title: Re: to those with a mk2 16v who want more power...
Post by: Diamond Hell on 04 September 2008, 15:41
Should have ABF on standard management dyno plot and then ABF on bodies and MS before the end of the year..... to go with my crossflow 8V on standard inlet and Digi2 management vs MS and bodies.  :cool:
Title: Re: to those with a mk2 16v who want more power...
Post by: Conker on 04 September 2008, 18:38
You've not answered my question.

 :cry:
Title: Re: to those with a mk2 16v who want more power...
Post by: Diamond Hell on 04 September 2008, 19:40
Is the main benefit of going to the trouble of fitting the whole ABF system that you can then improve the ignition/fueling more easily (and if you wanted to add megasquirt for example) because the system is fully electronic, as opposed to K-Jet etc???

The electronic will ensure the car is tractable and also good on fuel (when you're not leathering it).

It will also manage the mixture better, for optimum performance.

You should then be able to chip-tune it cheaply and it should keep the right mixture all the way through the rev-range, unlike K-Jet, which could wander about a lot.
Title: Re: to those with a mk2 16v who want more power...
Post by: Conker on 04 September 2008, 23:36
Ta muchly.

Title: Re: to those with a mk2 16v who want more power...
Post by: kittie on 06 September 2008, 12:21
Mmmm I want to have my tired 8v ABF'd  :cool:
Title: Re: to those with a mk2 16v who want more power...
Post by: Organisys on 06 September 2008, 21:44
nice Tom. how's it drive?

If the lump in my daily ever pops (god knows i've tried, still fine) then I'll go ABF on standard management and loom, but with wild cams.
Title: Re: to those with a mk2 16v who want more power...
Post by: MarkS on 07 September 2008, 15:42
Can the standard management of an ABF engine be re-mapped in any way, shape or form?
Title: Re: to those with a mk2 16v who want more power...
Post by: Organisys on 07 September 2008, 20:12
yeah, chip replaced iirc.