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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: Mr Lees on 03 September 2008, 07:57
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Just about to order the intake from awesome + K&N filter, then noticed that the kit comes with a foam filter, do you guys with the intake use this foam filter or have you used K&N, pipercross filter into the carb intake?, any point?
Thanks
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I have the "carbonio" style C/F intake (from US fleabay) and use the ITG Pro filter on mine.
Can't really say I have noticed much difference other than a slightly deeper exhaust note.
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I have the American Fleabay version too and use the K&N.
Robin swears by the ITG filter but this is a little more expensive. :smiley:
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the foam filter that comes with the carbonio is a piperX, i use it and my car seems fine with it on but if you want the best then IGT is the way i believe :smiley: :smiley:
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....Physically comparing the Pipercross (which is miles better than the stock paper filter!) with the ITG Pro, you can see the quality of the ITG immediately and it really fills the GTI stock box/engine-cover. It was strongly recommended to me by a mate who tracks his GTI and who is a highly qualified engineer.
I'll see if I can find my thread about it of some time ago.
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In a hurry.....Check this info..........
....I posted the following in another thread:
I'd have to conduct quite scientific tests to tell you what any improvements are, and you know what the placebo effects are!
My Carbonio intake came with a PiperCross panel filter and someone I know with a Mk5 GTI, who is a highly qualified engineer and whose opinion I respect, told me ITG were the best. The ITG filter is certainly of very robust multilayered construction and fits the 'box' very tightly, so sealing is good - Better quality than the PiperCross which in turn is much better than the standard 'paper' panel. Extremely low maintenance was also a factor in my decision - No additional oiling is ever needed and just an occasional dust off. Also a lifetime warranty.
Don't forget that the VW standard filter gets thrown away and replaced every ?,000 miles when servicing - What does that tell you?
The ITG Pro-filter utilizes the same three layer reticulated polyester foam used on the MAXOGEN air filters. Unlike some of the competition, ITG filters have a massive dust load-up tolerance, which is the ability to absorb a large amount of dust without reducing air flow capacity. With the standard K03 turbo I wouldn't like to say that any performance gains are appreciable without proper scientific testing. However, the manufacturers claim about +2 bhp is possible.
It's also MAF-friendly! And probably more benefit to a remapped car.
If you plan on keeping your car, as I do, then it'll quickly pay for itself by not needing to replace it - 60 squid well spent imo.
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m67/eurosporthz/ITG2-1.jpg)
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Where's the best place to by the ITG RR, think I'll put 1 in the S3
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Where's the best place to by the ITG RR, think I'll put 1 in the S3
Try Merlin Motorsport - http://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/p270/ITG-Air-Filter-for-AUDI-A3-(incl-S3)-(%3E2003)/product_info.html
That's where I got mine, very good service. :smiley:
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What's the difference between the Carbino and ebay 'carbino' intakes? Is the ebay knock-off differently shaped or made with different materials?
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....I got mine from MerlinSport too - Also excellent service.
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What's the difference between the Carbino and ebay 'carbino' intakes? Is the ebay knock-off differently shaped or made with different materials?
From what I understand the shape is very similar but the quality of the C/F isn't quite as good, but for the difference in price (even after you add on the import tax) I would still go for the ebay version IMO.
Also the ebay version is easier to fit from what I remember reading. :smiley:
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What's the difference between the Carbino and ebay 'carbino' intakes? Is the ebay knock-off differently shaped or made with different materials?
....I think the only difference is a sticker which reads "Carbonio"! I haven't seen a rep one in the flesh but can't imagine that the carbonfibre itself is inferior in any way and the shape looks absolutely identical.
oettinger, who are very highly respected German TUV tuners were using Carbonio's without the labels on all their S3 etc conversions but I believe that they were all manufactured by Carbonio. Afterall Carbonio own the patents!
EDIT: Well, yes, as SteveP says, the carbonfibre might well be not quite as good - CF standards do vary. But for an air intake I wouldn't think it matters too much.
(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/EngineBay_Techieboy.jpg)
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Where's the best place to by the ITG RR, think I'll put 1 in the S3
Try Merlin Motorsport - http://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/p270/ITG-Air-Filter-for-AUDI-A3-(incl-S3)-(%3E2003)/product_info.html
That's where I got mine, very good service. :smiley:
cheers
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....I forgot to say: As the VW servicing schedule will normally dump your air filter after so many thousand miles, you need to stop them dumping your expensive and efficient ITG filter! I've got an ITG sticker on my airbox cover as a reminder. [No pic as yet]
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....I got mine from MerlinSport too - Also excellent service.
cheers
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In a hurry.....Check this info..........
....I posted the following in another thread:
I'd have to conduct quite scientific tests to tell you what any improvements are, and you know what the placebo effects are!
My Carbonio intake came with a PiperCross panel filter and someone I know with a Mk5 GTI, who is a highly qualified engineer and whose opinion I respect, told me ITG were the best. The ITG filter is certainly of very robust multilayered construction and fits the 'box' very tightly, so sealing is good - Better quality than the PiperCross which in turn is much better than the standard 'paper' panel. Extremely low maintenance was also a factor in my decision - No additional oiling is ever needed and just an occasional dust off. Also a lifetime warranty.
Don't forget that the VW standard filter gets thrown away and replaced every ?,000 miles when servicing - What does that tell you?
The ITG Pro-filter utilizes the same three layer reticulated polyester foam used on the MAXOGEN air filters. Unlike some of the competition, ITG filters have a massive dust load-up tolerance, which is the ability to absorb a large amount of dust without reducing air flow capacity. With the standard K03 turbo I wouldn't like to say that any performance gains are appreciable without proper scientific testing. However, the manufacturers claim about +2 bhp is possible.
It's also MAF-friendly! And probably more benefit to a remapped car.
If you plan on keeping your car, as I do, then it'll quickly pay for itself by not needing to replace it - 60 squid well spent imo.
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m67/eurosporthz/ITG2-1.jpg)
Is that a picture of your actual filter RR, only ITG don't list 1 for the S3 yet but I'm lead to believe its the sam as the mk5 GTi 1.
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Is that a picture of your actual filter RR, only ITG don't list 1 for the S3 yet but I'm lead to believe its the sam as the mk5 GTi 1.
....It's not a pic of the actual one I've installed, but mine is totally identical. The fit in the GTI filter box is tight but that's how we like it :evil:. I would phone MerlinSport and ask - I recall them being very helpful.
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What's the difference between the Carbino and ebay 'carbino' intakes? Is the ebay knock-off differently shaped or made with different materials?
Hurdy and a few others saw my Carbon Intake at Inters, what did you guys think? Personally im very pleased with it! :smiley:
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What's the difference between the Carbino and ebay 'carbino' intakes? Is the ebay knock-off differently shaped or made with different materials?
Hurdy and a few others saw my Carbon Intake at Inters, what did you guys think? Personally im very pleased with it! :smiley:
Virtually the same. Both look :drool:
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Is that a picture of your actual filter RR, only ITG don't list 1 for the S3 yet but I'm lead to believe its the sam as the mk5 GTi 1.
According to this web page both the Audi A3 2.0T and the GTi use the same 15WB-586 filter.
http://www.eurosportacc.com/itg_performance_foam_air_filters.htm
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....ITG Pro filters - No additional oiling EVER required and Lifetime Warranty - Music to my ears!
:afro: :cool: :afro:
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Cheers guys, just did some research and it looks like they are the same. I saw the A3 2.0T listed but still wasn't sure if it was the same as the S3 as they are different cars. All sorted and ordered now thanx. All I need now is the Revo guys computer to be fixed so he can do my remap :smiley: