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Title: Wierd feeling coming from the front
Post by: Hulmie on 28 August 2008, 18:36
Well it seems my luck hasnt lasted long. My golf seems to be making a clunking noise when going round a bend and then when you get straight it seems to make a weiring noise that then goes away.

Mate said to check bottom arms which i have done and cant find any movement/play in them. Also when i spin the wheel back and forth with not much travel there seems to be abit of play.

Any idea's on what this could be?
Title: Re: Wierd feeling coming from the front
Post by: Hulmie on 28 August 2008, 20:20
after having a good route around it seems that i need to replace the passenger side Driveshaft as there is play coming from it when rotating the disc. So only had the car 2 weeks and already something has gone wrong, brings back memories of the calibra.
Title: Re: Wierd feeling coming from the front
Post by: richw911 on 28 August 2008, 21:24
Wheel bearing? if it is it will be loud when you turn?

*cough* someone say vauxhall!! *cough*  :grin:
Title: Re: Wierd feeling coming from the front
Post by: bobbarley on 28 August 2008, 21:25
Might have a Polish person hiding in there!!
Title: Re: Wierd feeling coming from the front
Post by: Hulmie on 29 August 2008, 16:00
it seems like the wheel is vibrating when going round a bend and in a straight line.
Title: Re: Wierd feeling coming from the front
Post by: Rhyso on 29 August 2008, 16:08
it seems like the wheel is vibrating when going round a bend and in a straight line.

wheels fully balanced?  :undecided:
Title: Re: Wierd feeling coming from the front
Post by: Hulmie on 29 August 2008, 16:32
yeh wheels are fine mate as it drove back from north wales ok which is a 2 hour 30 min drive. Only started the other day when i moved forward it a queue and heard a clunk and felt it in the car, then got worse and now you can feel it when driving.
Title: Re: Wierd feeling coming from the front
Post by: Rhyso on 29 August 2008, 16:36
springs ok?

i had one snap the other month - drove ok in a straight line but clunked when turning
Title: Re: Wierd feeling coming from the front
Post by: (shakey) on 29 August 2008, 16:52
i hav a clonkin noise on full lock right hand down only   :cry: its has come bk had it lst year when it went in 4 mot my drive shaft was loss so just check that.

where about in north wales where u i live there.
Title: Re: Wierd feeling coming from the front
Post by: Hulmie on 29 August 2008, 17:19
I live in Lincolnshire mate, bought the car from North Wales near Greenfield. Which side did your driveshaft come lose at? was it gearbox end or hub end?

Also can someone tell me the size of the NUT that holds the shaft in the HUB, is it a 30mm?
Title: Re: Wierd feeling coming from the front
Post by: (shakey) on 29 August 2008, 17:31
I live in Lincolnshire mate, bought the car from North Wales near Greenfield. Which side did your driveshaft come lose at? was it gearbox end or hub end?

Also can someone tell me the size of the NUT that holds the shaft in the HUB, is it a 30mm?

no way thats where i live greenfield never seen that car around here o well.

gearbox side m8
Title: Re: Wierd feeling coming from the front
Post by: andy_vdub on 29 August 2008, 17:34
not speaking from a vw point of view as i know bugger all about vw's but i had a similar thing happen on one of my hondas.
I think your right with the driveshaft, mine turned out to be the bearings, failing that it could be a cv joint
Title: Re: Wierd feeling coming from the front
Post by: Hulmie on 29 August 2008, 17:59
was it the allen key bolts that came lose at the gearbox side?

The car used to have audi wheels and bonnet Bra. Only bought it 2 weeks ago mate
Title: Re: Wierd feeling coming from the front
Post by: (shakey) on 29 August 2008, 18:06
was it the allen key bolts that came lose at the gearbox side?

The car used to have audi wheels and bonnet Bra. Only bought it 2 weeks ago mate

the allen key 1s m8.

i know i seen it on pistonheads a while bk nice car :cool:
Title: Re: Wierd feeling coming from the front
Post by: Hulmie on 29 August 2008, 18:07
yeh thats the car mate. Got it for a bargin, but maybe now im finding out why it was cheap.
Title: Re: Wierd feeling coming from the front
Post by: (shakey) on 29 August 2008, 18:11
yeh thats the car mate. Got it for a bargin, but maybe now im finding out why it was cheap.

what did u pay 4 it if u dnt mined me askin its not a big problem with the car so i wudnt worry m8 i know u only got 2 wks ago but it cud of happened on the first then u wud of been gutted.
Title: Re: Wierd feeling coming from the front
Post by: Hulmie on 30 August 2008, 13:06
car stands me at £2350 mate, which is a real bargin.

The fault on my car seems to be the N/S CV joint, has alot of play in it. Is this a common fault with Golf's?
Title: Re: Wierd feeling coming from the front
Post by: (shakey) on 30 August 2008, 15:07
car stands me at £2350 mate, which is a real bargin.

The fault on my car seems to be the N/S CV joint, has alot of play in it. Is this a common fault with Golf's?

what a bargin m8 not to sure
Title: Re: Wierd feeling coming from the front
Post by: Hulmie on 30 August 2008, 19:02
been struggling to get the bottom arm seperated from the suspension leg, do you have to remove the bottom ball joint completley or can you just prise the bottom arm down to get the ball joint out?
Title: Re: Wierd feeling coming from the front
Post by: Hulmie on 01 September 2008, 17:05
Can someone help me with the above question, need to get me car back on the road as i miss driving it
Title: Re: Wierd feeling coming from the front
Post by: Rhyso on 01 September 2008, 17:07
Can someone help me with the above question, need to get me car back on the road as i miss driving it

think the bottom ball joint is held on with 3 bolts mate

Title: Re: Wierd feeling coming from the front
Post by: Hulmie on 01 September 2008, 19:36
yeh thats right, but do i need to undo these to get the bottom arm off the suspension leg to remove the drive shaft or can the arm be levered down?
Title: Re: Wierd feeling coming from the front
Post by: Hulmie on 03 September 2008, 17:45
found out yesterday that the problem was not CV joint or driveshaft. The fault seems to be down to the Coilover losing its gas and therefore not returning to its proper position after going over a bump. This then is causing the wheels to vibrate. So rather than a cheap fix of £40 its costing me £200+ for a full coilover kit.
Title: Re: Wierd feeling coming from the front
Post by: Hulmie on 04 October 2008, 10:34
It seems i dont have any luck, after fitting the new coilovers on the front the noise and wheel vibration went away, but after about 3 weeks it has come back and is doing the same thing again. Going to me mates garage this morning to have a look at it, damper still seems to be doing its job, but can see the wheel vibrating/juddering when moving back and forth slowly. Im hoping we can find the fault and finally put a end to the problem. If not may look at selling the car, which i dont really want to do.
Title: Re: Wierd feeling coming from the front
Post by: Ivor Mk4 Turbo on 04 October 2008, 14:33
I don't see the point in doing that.......  Your next car could be worse!!  I'm sure your mate will get to the bottom of it, & it will be all smiles again. I know it's depressing, ATM (I'm getting frustrated with mine, too!), but when she's running sweet again, you'll be glad you kept her! :afro:
Title: Re: Wierd feeling coming from the front
Post by: richw911 on 04 October 2008, 19:45
I don't see the point in doing that.......  Your next car could be worse!!  I'm sure your mate will get to the bottom of it, & it will be all smiles again. I know it's depressing, ATM (I'm getting frustrated with mine, too!), but when she's running sweet again, you'll be glad you kept her! :afro:
Too true  :wink:
Title: Re: Wierd feeling coming from the front
Post by: Hulmie on 06 October 2008, 17:22
well went to the garage on saturday and couldnt pin point the fault or any idea of what is causing it. Going to another mates this week to get a second opinion. He seems to think that the new suspension will be ok as it is still rebounding fine and there is no sign's off leakage. He thinks maybe the bottom arm or ball joint could be the cause. Still very strange why it would cause the wheel to vibrate/judder.

Oh well back to the drawing board, will be putting my plans to sort the bodywork, detail the engine and get a different remap on hold until i get the problem sorted. Oh and Tax the end of the month, best make sure i get that.
Title: Re: Wierd feeling coming from the front
Post by: richw911 on 06 October 2008, 18:47
well went to the garage on saturday and couldnt pin point the fault or any idea of what is causing it. Going to another mates this week to get a second opinion. He seems to think that the new suspension will be ok as it is still rebounding fine and there is no sign's off leakage. He thinks maybe the bottom arm or ball joint could be the cause. Still very strange why it would cause the wheel to vibrate/judder.

Oh well back to the drawing board, will be putting my plans to sort the bodywork, detail the engine and get a different remap on hold until i get the problem sorted. Oh and Tax the end of the month, best make sure i get that.

Unevan tyer wear?
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=92328.0
Title: Re: Wierd feeling coming from the front
Post by: Hulmie on 08 October 2008, 16:54
thanks, but the tyres are fine make and it wouldnt cause the wheel to vibrate when moving slowly. Ideally im gonna try get me mate to take a video of it on his phone so i can show whats happening.
Title: Re: Wierd feeling coming from the front
Post by: Hulmie on 08 October 2008, 21:32
just read a post about Poly dog mount bushes. With my car having poly dog mount bush could this be causing vibration down the driveshaft to the wheel?
Title: Re: Wierd feeling coming from the front
Post by: richw911 on 08 October 2008, 21:37
just read a post about Poly dog mount bushes. With my car having poly dog mount bush could this be causing vibration down the driveshaft to the wheel?
Yeah could well do.....
Title: Re: Wierd feeling coming from the front
Post by: ben1.8T on 09 October 2008, 08:45
Might have a Polish person hiding in there!!

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Wierd feeling coming from the front
Post by: Hulmie on 13 October 2008, 17:56
finally seemed to have found the problem. With the car being lowered and the bottom arm not being at its standard angle, then this has caused stress on the bottom arm bushes and caused 1 to split slightly.

So think im going to get a set of powerflex bottom arm bushes to strenghen the front end up. Has anyone else fitted these?