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Registration of number plate suppliers to be extended to Scotland and Northern Ireland
Release Date: 01/08/2008
New powers gained under the Road Safety Act 2006 will see The Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (DVLA) and Driver and Vehicle Agency (DVA) in Northern Ireland step up the enforcement effort against number plate suppliers who break the law in Scotland and Northern Ireland.
DVLA and DVA are calling on all number plate suppliers in Scotland and Northern Ireland to register with the Agencies before 1st November 2008. Those who continue to supply a number plate after that date without being registered risk a fine of up to £5,000 and/or suspension from the register. This follows the extension to Scotland and Northern Ireland of regulations governing the supply of number plates, which previously only applied in England and Wales.
From 1st November 2008, number plate suppliers in Scotland and Northern Ireland must request and record specific documentation (such as vehicle registration certificates (V5C/V5CNI) and a driving licence) from customers before supplying number plates. Failure to do so will constitute an offence. Suppliers must keep these records for three years following a sale. In the event of a conviction, a court may impose a fine of up to £1,000 and/or suspend a supplier for up to five years from the register if they fail to comply with the requirements of the scheme.
The Register of Number Plate Suppliers (RNPS) regulations were originally introduced in England and Wales in January 2003. This is to tackle vehicle-related crimes and reduce the sale and use of ‘cloned’ or ‘ringed’ vehicles as well as the use of number plates that do not conform to the necessary legal requirements.
While it is already an offence across the UK for motorists to display non-compliant number plates on their vehicles, as of 1st November 2008 it will become an offence to supply number plates that do not comply with the Road Vehicles (Display of Registration Marks) Regulations 2001. Some number plate suppliers already advise their customers that non-compliant number plates cannot be used on the road and are for display purposes only, however, it will now be an offence to supply non-compliant number plates irrespective of any advice given.
Noel Shanahan, Chief Executive of DVLA said: " Extending the RNPS scheme to the rest of the UK, coupled with new regulations prohibiting the supply of non-compliant number plates are important and positive steps. These measures will further secure the integrity of the number plate supply system and provide greater assurance in helping to identify vehicles and their users where needed."
Brendan Magee, Chief Executive of DVA said: "The extension of the RNPS scheme to Northern Ireland is further evidence of the Government’s commitment to making it more difficult for criminals to obtain number plates. This register will be an important source of information for the investigation of vehicle crime. These measures introduce some control over the supply of number plates and, along with recent progress towards the wider availability of theft-resistant number plates represent an essential component of the Government’s vehicle crime reduction strategy."
Jonathan Hartley of the British Number plate Manufacturers Association (BNMA) said: "The BNMA very much welcomes the roll-out of the RNPS regulations to Scotland and Northern Ireland. Enforcement and awareness is the key to successful implementation and we welcome any new initiative by DVLA and DVA to push this strongly. We are positive that a well-enforced roll-out of the scheme will aid tractability of number plates, reduce number plate related crime and generally improve the quality of number plates fitted to vehicles in the UK."
DVLA and DVA have a team of enforcement officers who visit suppliers’ premises. They are able to offer advice to help suppliers comply with the legislation. If they believe stronger action is warranted, they are also authorised to instigate legal proceedings.
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Notes to Editors
A number plate supplier is someone whose business consists wholly or partly of supplying registration plates – for example, finished number plates that incorporate the registration mark of a vehicle registered with DVLA or DVA. Manufacturers, distributors, assemblers, motor factors, motor dealers and retail outlets including on-line retailers could fall within the scope of the scheme provided that they supply the finished product. Motor dealers who refit used vehicles for sale with replacement number plates would also be classed as number plate suppliers.
The Vehicles (Crime) Act 2001 authorises a police officer or a Trading Standards representative to enter the premises of a registered business at any reasonable time to inspect records and take copies or extracts. The Road Safety Act 2006 extended this power to representatives of the Secretary of State for Transport who will be available to visit suppliers’ premises to answer questions and offer them advice to comply with the legislation. If they believe stronger action is warranted, they are also authorised to instigate legal proceedings. In the event of a conviction, a Magistrates’ Court may either fine and/or suspend a supplier from the register, if they fail to comply with the requirements of the scheme. The court has the power to suspend a supplier from the register for up to five years.
A 'Ringer' is a stolen vehicle that has had its identification numbers (including the number plate, Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) and engine number) replaced by a set from a salvaged/written-off vehicle, which effectively changes the vehicle's identity.
Cloning is a practise where criminals find an exact match of the vehicle they have stolen and then copy the identity of a legitimate vehicle onto it, therefore making it look legitimate.
All press enquiries should be directed to:
DVLA Press Office 01792 782318
press.dvla@gtnet.gov.uk
www.dvla.gov.uk
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so get ya plates bought now :grin:
number plate manufacturers going underground
they will be RARE then :laugh:
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interesting stuff.
get em while you can then eh?
i'm sure suppliers will somehow find a loophole to enable the production of german style plates to be used - perhaps a disclaimer form that has to be filled in or something?
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In 2008, Number plate makers were sent to prison by a labour court for a crime they did commit. These men promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the birmingham underground. Today, still wanted by the government, they survive as modders of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire... The platemen.
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Surely it would be simpler to update the ANPR systems to recognise all plates, including all the polish immigrants, it's not like we don't have the technology. But then they wouldn't make any money from the fines then, would they?
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Better get your German style ones now then guys.
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We can send a man to the moon but we can't get our ANPR systems that can already ready letters and numbers to read slightly different looking letters and numbers :undecided:
Ah well, better to just stay legal I guess :smiley:
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surely they will still be able to make them and sell them as long as they don't state that they are numberplates?
you can't be arrested for selling decorative bits of pressed steel.
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time to get the 'D' plates now then!!! :smiley:
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We can send a man to the moon but we can't get our ANPR systems that can already ready letters and numbers to read slightly different looking letters and numbers :undecided:
Ah well, better to just stay legal I guess :smiley:
ah but the moon landing...
thats if it ever actually happened - think of the maths and technology involved in something like that, and then think of 1969. something not right about it?
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Tom , lets not go down this route shall we lol
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Cheers Nick you've just made my day. :grin:
About f**king time.
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.... erm, 'non UK based' ebay shops? :wink:
Glad I got mine last weekend! :afro:
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The latest ANPR systems have no problems with foreign plates/daft fonts. there used to be problems with how they picked up black and silver plates but that's been resolved.
2001 on plates which display the dealer's name and postcode are used to track down stolen vehicles/help in crimes. all other plates that comply to the bsu standard mean there is some quality control over them, so the plates are more likely to last the length of the vehicle, rather than becoming distorted and letting water in covering the letters as some 'custom' plates do.
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Tom , lets not go down this route shall we lol
the truth is out there... ( :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: )
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So arent pressed plates legal at all? Even if they are reflective and are in a UK font?
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Surely it would be simpler to update the ANPR systems to recognise all plates, including all the polish immigrants, it's not like we don't have the technology. But then they wouldn't make any money from the fines then, would they?
So so cynical toph. This thread lacks statistics. I need some.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08/08/speed_camera_figures/
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Tom , lets not go down this route shall we lol
the truth is out there... ( :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: )
:grin: :grin:
I reckon they did it!
I watched the tail end of James May's 20th century technology or something and it was about that
Seemed quite possible in my opinion!
:smiley:
I suppose we'll find out soonish though cos I'm sure I heard another great power (China?) were launching a lunar programme
Maybe I made that up :undecided:
But anyway...back to numberplates
:laugh:
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Surely it would be simpler to update the ANPR systems to recognise all plates, including all the polish immigrants, it's not like we don't have the technology. But then they wouldn't make any money from the fines then, would they?
So so cynical toph. This thread lacks statistics. I need some.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08/08/speed_camera_figures/
Does government fix statistics? One might as well inquire after the defecatory habits of the arboreal ursine. But it comes to something when they so blatantly spin against what their own experts tell them
brilliant!! :grin:
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''A much better estimate of the effect of speed cameras could be obtained if extra data were available or more research carried out. This has not been done and, an informed source tells us, is unlikely to be - it might be too embarrassing''
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so now everyone wth showplates must be extra vigilant to remeber to take them off.. less chance of 'getting away with it' theoretically...
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hide away license plates......
I run the streets, lol
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So arent pressed plates legal at all? Even if they are reflective and are in a UK font?
http://www.dubmeister.co.uk/ look under "legal plates" pressed plates uk font - legal :smiley:
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Oops only just checked back to this thread as i was about to order some plates! Thanks for the link to legal plates mate :smiley:
Noticed on the site they do short plates for 6 digit plates so gonna get me a set of them i think :cool:
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no-one noticed how PLATEMAN is now based in germany :grin: :laugh:
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no-one noticed how PLATEMAN is now based in germany :grin: :laugh:
I was thinkin along them lines.....if its illegal for a uk supplier to sell them, go look for a foreign based co! (even if they are making them in blighty.. :wink:) dont you just like the e.u and free trade?
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so has anyone actually done a bit of research into how many migrant workers and cars are copped by our camera;s and never have to pay up despite the fact that they are living in our country? how many deaths are caused due to migrant workers? and when talking about plates, i got copped for having a VW symbol instead of the GB one at the side...and before anyone says owt that was before the german pressed plates.
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this has made me :angry:
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so has anyone actually done a bit of research into how many migrant workers and cars are copped by our camera;s and never have to pay up despite the fact that they are living in our country? how many deaths are caused due to migrant workers? and when talking about plates, i got copped for having a VW symbol instead of the GB one at the side...and before anyone says owt that was before the german pressed plates.
QUICK! FETCH THE DAILY MAIL!
If you are a permanent resident in any country you have to abide by the laws of that country.
You are perfectly at liberty to leave the UK and work in another country, should you wish. Then you too can take advantage of the many things that another country will offer you, like flouting the local laws.
I've seen people in the UK (probably UK residents) driving around on German export plates that expired 18months ago. I met a guy recently who drives on French plates in the UK and GB plates in France. There are many imaginative ways of dodging the law. If you're lacking the imagination or guile to execute on any of these then that's your problem and your problem alone. Stop whining.
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so has anyone actually done a bit of research into how many migrant workers and cars are copped by our camera;s and never have to pay up despite the fact that they are living in our country? how many deaths are caused due to migrant workers? and when talking about plates, i got copped for having a VW symbol instead of the GB one at the side...and before anyone says owt that was before the german pressed plates.
QUICK! FETCH THE DAILY MAIL!
If you are a permanent resident in any country you have to abide by the laws of that country.
You are perfectly at liberty to leave the UK and work in another country, should you wish. Then you too can take advantage of the many things that another country will offer you, like flouting the local laws.
I've seen people in the UK (probably UK residents) driving around on German export plates that expired 18months ago. I met a guy recently who drives on French plates in the UK and GB plates in France. There are many imaginative ways of dodging the law. If you're lacking the imagination or guile to execute on any of these then that's your problem and your problem alone. Stop whining.
wtf :huh: your a freindly bloke aint ya.
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Better friendly and educated than surly and thick.
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thats why i am friendly and educated.
LL ;)
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A friend makes plates. They will soon stop making plates and start making signs..
I've got non-official lettering on my megane. Still got a fixed penalty fine through the door. And if I want a tinted visor on my bike helmet (banned in the UK), some friendly people on the Isle of Man advertise them on the UK e-bay.
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so get ya plates bought now :grin:
was thinking the same haha