GolfGTIforum.co.uk

Model specific boards => Golf mk4 => Topic started by: iMation on 30 July 2008, 08:20

Title: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: iMation on 30 July 2008, 08:20
Right let me start off by saying that this IS the route i am going, regardless i know people will say get a 1.8t and sell the 2.0, well no, simple reason, i like the 2.0 its solid and has SOME potential!

And the fact that the Mrs wants a TT next year :S

So at castle combe i was describing that a american company called Kinetics do a Turbo kit for the 2.0 snails, (American engines are AEG for the mk4 and ABA for the mk3)

http://www.kineticmotorsport.com/products/KINETIC_MOTORSPORT_MKIV_2_0L_STAGE1_TURBO_KIT-864-257.html (http://www.kineticmotorsport.com/products/KINETIC_MOTORSPORT_MKIV_2_0L_STAGE1_TURBO_KIT-864-257.html)

With a  few other mods i can easy get 200 out of this sucker :D (zorst, cat, 2mm head gastket etc..)

The only downside is if i want high boost i need to change my clutch but i think mine is on its way out anyways so not a problem.

and the fact that Nick at R-Tech is gonna be a busy man giving me a custom remap :D

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3272469&page=1 (http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3272469&page=1)

Here is a list of people that have done the upgrade being it self sourced or self build or even the kit from kinetics. Alot of good info and data on Vortex forums for this project.

I have already got the delivery sorted due to a nice block at RAF fairford who is going to get his family to GIFT it over her :D:D

This is on the cards for XMAS.

Stu
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: richw911 on 30 July 2008, 18:17
Good work stu fair play to you!!! Can you take me for a ride when its done?  :laugh:  :evil:
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: iMation on 30 July 2008, 18:26
Definatly mate, im really looking forward to getting my teeth into this. while the engine is being worked on im gonna tidy up the bay some, so its nice and shiney :D

I have spoken to Kinetics today and they said that i will get a cut price due to not using there software :D ideal as im sure the custom remap is gonna cost me some :D

Im sure if i had the fabrication skills that i could source the bits and do this my self, but i dont so...

Stu
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: richw911 on 30 July 2008, 18:28
Quote from: iMation on 30 July 2008, 18:26
Definatly mate, im really looking forward to getting my teeth into this. while the engine is being worked on im gonna tidy up the bay some, so its nice and shiney :D

I have spoken to Kinetics today and they said that i will get a cut price due to not using there software :D ideal as im sure the custom remap is gonna cost me some :D

Im sure if i had the fabrication skills that i could source the bits and do this my self, but i dont so...

Stu

Good work mate  and we need pics from start to end :afro:
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: Rhyso on 30 July 2008, 20:35
nice work Stu - really interested to see the results you achieve - start a new wave of modding for the 2.0 and answer the eternal question 'how do i make it go faster'  :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: richw911 on 30 July 2008, 20:36
Quote from: Rhyso on 30 July 2008, 20:35
nice work Stu - really interested to see the results you achieve - start a new wave of modding for the 2.0 and answer the eternal question 'how do i make it go faster'  :grin: :grin: :grin:

yep the reply will be " imation"  :wink:
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: iMation on 30 July 2008, 20:52
The thing is, its out there, the good old yanks are adventurouse and try these things.

a bit of research is all thats needed.

Yes people are right by saying 1.8t is the better option for tuning and performance.

if like me you want to keep the strong engine of the 2.snail then i think its worth throwing the money at it.

Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: monzablue16v on 30 July 2008, 20:57
Should have been turbo'd from the start imo. Good luck :)
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: Jamm89 on 30 July 2008, 21:02
This is going to be interesting  :laugh:
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: GTi-Matt on 30 July 2008, 21:03
 :lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: Ashmond on 31 July 2008, 11:37
Thinking about it, this could be quite good and it'l be good to see something different with the 2.0ltr, project thread!!
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: iMation on 31 July 2008, 13:26
cheers ash. lets hope this is a benchmark for the Snails :D
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: giffy1988 on 11 August 2008, 21:31
whoop whoop. finally we may have one up on the 1.8Ts and dirty diesels  :grin:
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: bobbarley on 11 August 2008, 21:36
Excellent mate, that's great news!

Are you going to keep us up to date with a DUB thread?
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: richw911 on 11 August 2008, 21:38
Quote from: bobbarley on 11 August 2008, 21:36
Excellent mate, that's great news!

Are you going to keep us up to date with a DUB thread?

Where have you been bob? post date July 30  :shocked: :huh:
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: bobbarley on 11 August 2008, 21:40
I kept meaning to reply, but constantly forgot :)
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: richw911 on 11 August 2008, 21:41
Quote from: bobbarley on 11 August 2008, 21:40
I kept meaning to reply, but constantly forgot :)

I see  :wink:
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: GTi-Matt on 11 August 2008, 21:51
he hit the "mark read" button and it went away into the past didnt u bob!!!! :grin:
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: bobbarley on 11 August 2008, 21:52
Maybe I saw 2.0 in the title, and instantly blocked it out ;)
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: Ivor Mk4 Turbo on 12 August 2008, 13:17
You thought about/researched any SC kits??

Now, that REALLY would be different!!
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: iMation on 12 August 2008, 18:14
Quote from: Ivor Mk4 Turbo on 12 August 2008, 13:17
You thought about/researched any SC kits??

Now, that REALLY would be different!!

Yes mate, i was originally going to go this route, i spoke to CCR-Racing a while back and they would do me a stage one Rotrex SC kit with 1.8t stock intercooler for just shy of 3k (with postage and tax and stuff) but then i would also have to pay for a custom remap and manufacture a bracket for the SC. but it would still only push 185 BHP for that money. obviously if i did other things to lower the compression then  would get more.
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: Ivor Mk4 Turbo on 12 August 2008, 19:17
Mmmmmmmmmmm, that does seem a lot of dollar/effort to get to 185.

Are you looking to spend about 3k then?  What kind of power you hoping for with the turbo?

How about buying a rear ended S3 & nick the whole front off it??  You'd have everthing then - Lump, downpipe, plumbing, uprated brakes etc, etc.

Could have a Golf S3 but without the downside of the weight of the 4WD system?? :smug:
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: GTi-Matt on 12 August 2008, 19:24
he aint interested mate he loves his car and wants to do this to it. i did think about it with mine but selling mine for a 180 in the next month at the latest!!! :drool:
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: dai-cymru on 12 August 2008, 19:42
same as me everyone says change the engine to a 1.8T but it's hard to part with a perfectly good working engine doing a conversion with an unknown engine
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: Rhyso on 12 August 2008, 19:44
Quote from: dai-cymru on 12 August 2008, 19:42
same as me everyone says change the engine to a 1.8T but it's hard to part with a perfectly good working engine doing a conversion with an unknown engine

why fix it if it ain't broke :afro:

Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: dai-cymru on 12 August 2008, 19:48
exactly matey
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: Rhyso on 12 August 2008, 20:11
Quote from: Rhyso on 12 August 2008, 19:44
Quote from: dai-cymru on 12 August 2008, 19:42
same as me everyone says change the engine to a 1.8T but it's hard to part with a perfectly good working engine doing a conversion with an unknown engine

why fix it if it ain't broke :afro:



had a lapse there - fit a derv engine in it  :tongue:
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: dai-cymru on 12 August 2008, 21:03
derv derv derv derv derv thats all we here did you have posters od LDV vans on your wall as a kid :grin: :laugh:
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: Ivor Mk4 Turbo on 12 August 2008, 21:14
Quote from: GTi-Matt on 12 August 2008, 19:24
he aint interested mate he loves his car and wants to do this to it. i did think about it with mine but selling mine for a 180 in the next month at the latest!!! :drool:

Fair enough - Was just floating a few ideas around. :afro:

Here's another!!  :grin:

Has anyone done a Mk5 2.0T conversion, yet?  :grin:
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: GTi-Matt on 12 August 2008, 21:17
Quote from: Ivor Mk4 Turbo on 12 August 2008, 21:14
Quote from: GTi-Matt on 12 August 2008, 19:24
he aint interested mate he loves his car and wants to do this to it. i did think about it with mine but selling mine for a 180 in the next month at the latest!!! :drool:

Fair enough - Was just floating a few ideas around. :afro:

Here's another!!  :grin:

Has anyone done a Mk5 2.0T conversion, yet?  :grin:

be the 1st ivor, we talked about this before and im sure jamm89 said he would fit it for me?? bet that got lost when the forum went down!!!! damn it!!!!
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: Ivor Mk4 Turbo on 12 August 2008, 21:38
Quote from: GTi-Matt on 12 August 2008, 21:17
Quote from: Ivor Mk4 Turbo on 12 August 2008, 21:14
Quote from: GTi-Matt on 12 August 2008, 19:24
he aint interested mate he loves his car and wants to do this to it. i did think about it with mine but selling mine for a 180 in the next month at the latest!!! :drool:

Fair enough - Was just floating a few ideas around. :afro:

Here's another!!  :grin:

Has anyone done a Mk5 2.0T conversion, yet?  :grin:

be the 1st ivor, we talked about this before and im sure jamm89 said he would fit it for me?? bet that got lost when the forum went down!!!! damn it!!!!

Ok, then!!!  :grin:

ps  I'm looking for sponsors to help with the conversion, Matt.......................  Can I put your name down??......................  :laugh:

Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: GTi-Matt on 12 August 2008, 21:40
yeah why not least i can say i was on the team that were the 1st to convert a mk5 engine into a mk4!!!!  :grin: :grin: :grin: :smug: :smug: good aint we :afro:
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: iMation on 12 August 2008, 21:52
in total im looking to spend about 2.5kish

from the turbo im looking at about 180 at the wheel with a custom remap, maybe more depending but i think the best ive seen is 250 thats with new cams and rods.

that would be awsome to do a mk5->4 conversion
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: Ivor Mk4 Turbo on 12 August 2008, 22:09
Quote from: GTi-Matt on 12 August 2008, 21:40
yeah why not least i can say i was on the team that were the 1st to convert a mk5 engine into a mk4!!!!  :grin: :grin: :grin: :smug: :smug: good aint we :afro:

You certainly are. :afro:  (Hope you read the small print about the £1000 minimum donation!! :tongue:
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: richw911 on 12 August 2008, 22:16
Quote from: Ivor Mk4 Turbo on 12 August 2008, 22:09
Quote from: GTi-Matt on 12 August 2008, 21:40
yeah why not least i can say i was on the team that were the 1st to convert a mk5 engine into a mk4!!!!  :grin: :grin: :grin: :smug: :smug: good aint we :afro:

You certainly are. :afro:  (Hope you read the small print about the £1000 minimum donation!! :tongue:

PMSL  :grin:
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: GTi-Matt on 13 August 2008, 07:28
Quote from: Ivor Mk4 Turbo on 12 August 2008, 22:09
Quote from: GTi-Matt on 12 August 2008, 21:40
yeah why not least i can say i was on the team that were the 1st to convert a mk5 engine into a mk4!!!!  :grin: :grin: :grin: :smug: :smug: good aint we :afro:

You certainly are. :afro:  (Hope you read the small print about the £1000 minimum donation!! :tongue:

Quote
Ok, then!!! 

ps  I'm looking for sponsors to help with the conversion, Matt.......................  Can I put your name down??...................... 

no small print here apart from the bit where it says ivor accepts all funds to do with this project, im just the helping hand!!!!! :grin: :grin: :grin: :evil: :evil: :evil: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

here u go ivor :afro: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-Golf-MK5-GTI-2-0T-Engine-Box-AXX-Code_W0QQitemZ320285746102QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item320285746102&_trkparms=72%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14.l1318
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: Ivor Mk4 Turbo on 13 August 2008, 13:09
Quote from: GTi-Matt on 13 August 2008, 07:28
Quote from: Ivor Mk4 Turbo on 12 August 2008, 22:09
Quote from: GTi-Matt on 12 August 2008, 21:40
yeah why not least i can say i was on the team that were the 1st to convert a mk5 engine into a mk4!!!!  :grin: :grin: :grin: :smug: :smug: good aint we :afro:

You certainly are. :afro:  (Hope you read the small print about the £1000 minimum donation!! :tongue:

Quote
Ok, then!!! 

ps  I'm looking for sponsors to help with the conversion, Matt.......................  Can I put your name down??...................... 

no small print here apart from the bit where it says ivor accepts all funds to do with this project, im just the helping hand!!!!! :grin: :grin: :grin: :evil: :evil: :evil: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

here u go ivor :afro: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-Golf-MK5-GTI-2-0T-Engine-Box-AXX-Code_W0QQitemZ320285746102QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item320285746102&_trkparms=72%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14.l1318

C'mon guys, get your wallets out........................  Only £1495 to go, thanks to Matt!!!  :tongue:  :grin:
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: GTi-Matt on 13 August 2008, 18:52
dont make me say it again, i would so love to have someone who could put this in 4 me then once its fitted post some pics up FAO ivor!!!!! :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: 1800Zeta on 18 August 2008, 14:16
Just been searching on the bay looking to either drop a 1.8T or similar into my sluggish 2.0 and found this handy little company

http://www.gt3turbo.com

more specifically

http://www.gt3turbo.com/Merchant/product.php?productid=724&cat=408&page=1

now things are getting interesting especially as I have a refurbished T3 sat at my dads from my Zetec Turbo engine :-)
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: iMation on 20 August 2008, 23:34
a bit of an update, i have spoken to kinetics in the US (using works phone)

They are really helpfull with the build and are gonna throw some extra stuff in like a bfi oil pan and better gaskets and stuff.

oh and a major update

www.bugworks.co.uk

Check it out, im now in partership with my mate who owns this. :D:D
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: richw911 on 20 August 2008, 23:43
Quote from: iMation on 20 August 2008, 23:34
a bit of an update, i have spoken to kinetics in the US (using works phone)

They are really helpfull with the build and are gonna throw some extra stuff in like a bfi oil pan and better gaskets and stuff.

oh and a major update

www.bugworks.co.uk

Check it out, im now in partership with my mate who owns this. :D:D

Cool good work mate, How long do you think till its complete?
 Take it the site is new and under construction?
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: iMation on 21 August 2008, 00:01
yeah im just setting up the site for it.

i rekon it will be done for about January time, i still need to speak to nick at R-tech about a few things tho.


Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: davy80 on 21 August 2008, 00:49
hey chum im also in the snail gang but they are so much more reliabe than the 1.8t but im thinkin of a different route and goin for a super charger see link.
http://www.neuspeed.com/products/product_details.asp?app=32|G4&type=11&ltype=ns_euro&p_id=619

big up to the 2.0  :smiley: :grin:
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: AlanD on 21 August 2008, 09:48
Without trying to piss on your fire suprcharging a 2.0 8v . . . . whats the point? Its going to cost a bomb to get done and 1.8T remapped is going to still be easily much faster. Its a no brainer if you ask me.
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: richw911 on 21 August 2008, 10:00
Quote from: davy80 on 21 August 2008, 00:49
they are so much more reliabe than the 1.8t


:grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

Wait and see what GTI-MAT tells you about that  :evil:
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: iMation on 21 August 2008, 10:52
I would look on vw vortex about the newspeed, it didn't seem that great. But its another option. I'm gonna have more info on the turbo this weekend. Cant wait to get it sorted.
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: Ivor Mk4 Turbo on 21 August 2008, 13:21
Quote from: richw911 on 21 August 2008, 10:00
Quote from: davy80 on 21 August 2008, 00:49
they are so much more reliabe than the 1.8t


:grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

Wait and see what GTI-MAT tells you about that  :evil:

:grin:  :laugh:

Also see "Kells"!!!  :tongue:
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: iMation on 21 August 2008, 15:49
Quote from: Ivor Mk4 Turbo on 21 August 2008, 13:21
Quote from: richw911 on 21 August 2008, 10:00
Quote from: davy80 on 21 August 2008, 00:49
they are so much more reliabe than the 1.8t


:grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

Wait and see what GTI-MAT tells you about that  :evil:

:grin:  :laugh:

Also see "Kells"!!!  :tongue:

If my 2.0 breaks, it breaks. but it shouldnt unless your putting it under alot of boost and your gears pop into first from fith
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: richw911 on 21 August 2008, 17:03
Quote from: iMation on 21 August 2008, 15:49
Quote from: Ivor Mk4 Turbo on 21 August 2008, 13:21
Quote from: richw911 on 21 August 2008, 10:00
Quote from: davy80 on 21 August 2008, 00:49
they are so much more reliabe than the 1.8t


:grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

Wait and see what GTI-MAT tells you about that  :evil:

:grin:  :laugh:

Also see "Kells"!!!  :tongue:

If my 2.0 breaks, it breaks. but it shouldnt unless your putting it under alot of boost and your gears pop into first from fith

I was referring to the quote from davy80 "they are so much more reliabe than the 1.8t" in standard form.
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: BobbyT on 21 August 2008, 17:24
Quote from: AlanD on 21 August 2008, 09:48
Without trying to piss on your fire suprcharging a 2.0 8v . . . . whats the point? Its going to cost a bomb to get done and 1.8T remapped is going to still be easily much faster. Its a no brainer if you ask me.

tbh this is what i think, but hey, its not my cash!  :wink:
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: iMation on 21 August 2008, 17:59
Quote from: richw911 on 21 August 2008, 17:03
I was referring to the quote from davy80 "they are so much more reliabe than the 1.8t" in standard form.

ah okie dokies :D

For me there is also an alternative motive for the turbo. as in my first post on this subject, its what i want to do
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: dai-cymru on 21 August 2008, 18:02
may be a no brainer to you but hard to find engine with all ancilleries wire loom and clocks, trust me i have looked. nice to be different from the normal 1.8 t that everyone has :smiley:
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: dai-cymru on 21 August 2008, 18:08
imation where are you planning to pick up your oil feed to the turbo?
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: kniterider on 21 August 2008, 21:48
tis easy... you get piggy back units that fit between the oil filter and the block.... or they could be using a more hardcore way of getting oil...., tis normally done from a piggy back then through a seperate cooler then to the turbo then back to the sump... engines are easy and if youve got you head screwed ont here not that hard to work out how to do what... yeah theres money involved but some people love there cars and engines.... (ive had mk4 gti's and audi 20vt's etc) but im back to a mk3 vr6, cause i love the noise and power delivery why the funk didnt vw uk put these in as fwd as they did in the american golf gti mk4?? lol... id be a happy as f00k person then!!


anyways, i looked into ways of tuning my n/a 20'v gti , and other than fitting carbs and a diffo ignition system the turbo option was the only way, so by turboing or chargin the 2.0 snail as you call it is something youll get noticed for , which as ive always said 'take a break from the norm' .... the vw 'scene' is great but it gets boring after youve been in it for so long... (well i have ) so to see some thing fresh some one to throw some cash at is all good!! regardless of what performance figures it kicks out at the end... there scope for more!!

 :smiley:
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: Ashmond on 21 August 2008, 22:47
be different, trust me its better then having a normal lump, look at mine, how many 1.8 ko4' T's do you see that look like mine, if I can say one thing, make it look pretty it attracts more attention!! lol, cant wait to see this!
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: richw911 on 21 August 2008, 23:06
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX6gtdFJgSQ
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: kniterider on 21 August 2008, 23:30
sweet... them rims would look good on my vr... lol... shame no rollin shots or owt.... but it give you the idea though dont it... one thing that i noticed.... why is the intake pipe from the cooler to the throttle body the same if not smaller than the front strut brace!! lol... thought it all would have been a bit big!! never mind. hats off for gettin it done!!, so get it done in the uk too!!
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: dai-cymru on 29 August 2008, 02:42
http://www.ecodetuning.com/shop/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=1580


have you seeen this kit bit cheaper
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: iMation on 29 August 2008, 14:46
TBH i dont think im gonna buy any kits but that is another great link

Ive managed to source so far

Oil catch tank
Green injectors
Fast Flow Sports Cat
TIAL 38mm wastegate

I think the only things i will be spending good money on is the Turbo.

I think im gonna have a shot at fabricating myself a manifold making equal length pipes

thats about it for now :D

Stu
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: richw911 on 29 August 2008, 18:11
Quote from: iMation on 29 August 2008, 14:46
TBH i dont think im gonna buy any kits but that is another great link

Ive managed to source so far

Oil catch tank
Green injectors
Fast Flow Sports Cat
TIAL 38mm wastegate

I think the only things i will be spending good money on is the Turbo.

I think im gonna have a shot at fabricating myself a manifold making equal length pipes

thats about it for now :D

Stu

Ah good work  :cool:
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: GTi-Matt on 29 August 2008, 19:20
Quote from: iMation on 29 August 2008, 14:46
TBH i dont think im gonna buy any kits but that is another great link

Ive managed to source so far

Oil catch tank
Green injectors
Fast Flow Sports Cat
TIAL 38mm wastegate

I think the only things i will be spending good money on is the Turbo.

I think im gonna have a shot at fabricating myself a manifold making equal length pipes

thats about it for now :D

Stu

very good stu, u have much more patients than i have 4 the 2.0 engine!!! :evil:
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: dai-cymru on 30 August 2008, 01:45
Quote from: iMation on 29 August 2008, 14:46
TBH i dont think im gonna buy any kits but that is another great link

Ive managed to source so far

Oil catch tank
Green injectors
Fast Flow Sports Cat
TIAL 38mm wastegate

I think the only things i will be spending good money on is the Turbo.

I think im gonna have a shot at fabricating myself a manifold making equal length pipes

thats about it for now :D

Stu


i have been looking at doing it myself, it isnt that complicated plus could save thousands as you can pick up pipework cheap enough we shall see though :smiley:
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: Rhyso on 30 August 2008, 09:21
Quote from: dai-cymru on 30 August 2008, 01:45
Quote from: iMation on 29 August 2008, 14:46
TBH i dont think im gonna buy any kits but that is another great link

Ive managed to source so far

Oil catch tank
Green injectors
Fast Flow Sports Cat
TIAL 38mm wastegate

I think the only things i will be spending good money on is the Turbo.

I think im gonna have a shot at fabricating myself a manifold making equal length pipes

thats about it for now :D

Stu


i have been looking at doing it myself, it isnt that complicated plus could save thousands as you can pick up pipework cheap enough we shall see though :smiley:

Dai - can't you 'borrow' an old turbo from work and get that to fit!!?  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: dai-cymru on 30 August 2008, 09:41
Quote from: Rhyso on 30 August 2008, 09:21
Quote from: dai-cymru on 30 August 2008, 01:45
Quote from: iMation on 29 August 2008, 14:46
TBH i dont think im gonna buy any kits but that is another great link

Ive managed to source so far

Oil catch tank
Green injectors
Fast Flow Sports Cat
TIAL 38mm wastegate

I think the only things i will be spending good money on is the Turbo.

I think im gonna have a shot at fabricating myself a manifold making equal length pipes

thats about it for now :D

Stu


i have been looking at doing it myself, it isnt that complicated plus could save thousands as you can pick up pipework cheap enough we shall see though :smiley:

Dai - can't you 'borrow' an old turbo from work and get that to fit!!?  :grin: :grin:


well it crossed my mind cos they still have turbos on the shelf from the old lynx buses which are garret and actually are the same as a volvo T5 :evil: :evil:
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: Rhyso on 30 August 2008, 09:44
Quote from: dai-cymru on 30 August 2008, 09:41
well it crossed my mind cos they still have turbos on the shelf from the old lynx buses which are garret and actually are the same as a volvo T5 :evil: :evil:

 :cool: :evil:
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: dai-cymru on 30 August 2008, 09:47
Quote from: Rhyso on 30 August 2008, 09:44
Quote from: dai-cymru on 30 August 2008, 09:41
well it crossed my mind cos they still have turbos on the shelf from the old lynx buses which are garret and actually are the same as a volvo T5 :evil: :evil:

 :cool: :evil:



might be a bit big for the engine bay though :angry: what time is rich coming
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: Rhyso on 30 August 2008, 09:51
Quote from: dai-cymru on 30 August 2008, 09:47
Quote from: Rhyso on 30 August 2008, 09:44
Quote from: dai-cymru on 30 August 2008, 09:41
well it crossed my mind cos they still have turbos on the shelf from the old lynx buses which are garret and actually are the same as a volvo T5 :evil: :evil:

 :cool: :evil:



might be a bit big for the engine bay though :angry: what time is rich coming

make it fit lol - you got more space to play with than i have!

Rich was leaving about 9ish so was going to be here for around 11am
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: dai-cymru on 30 August 2008, 10:28
Quote from: Rhyso on 30 August 2008, 09:51
Quote from: dai-cymru on 30 August 2008, 09:47
Quote from: Rhyso on 30 August 2008, 09:44
Quote from: dai-cymru on 30 August 2008, 09:41
well it crossed my mind cos they still have turbos on the shelf from the old lynx buses which are garret and actually are the same as a volvo T5 :evil: :evil:

 :cool: :evil:


might be a bit big for the engine bay though :angry: what time is rich coming

make it fit lol - you got more space to play with than i have!

Rich was leaving about 9ish so was going to be here for around 11am


need a far bit of room for extra length on manifold, turbo, wastegate and pipes  :undecided: decisions decisions
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: iMation on 30 August 2008, 10:30
pipe work is not a problem, i have already managed to get some 2.5" on the cheap :D

ive herd of people using old saab and volvo turbo's
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: dai-cymru on 30 August 2008, 10:37
i was thinking more of the space around the manifold to physically fit the stuff in,
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: iMation on 30 August 2008, 14:24
there is plenty of room, i will try and dig out the pic of the make shift manifold, altho if it goes tits up, then i will just buy a manifold
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: iMation on 30 August 2008, 19:23
http://www.larkspeed.com/index.pl?p=391GS22H&a=i#


gotta be a must too :D
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: dai-cymru on 30 August 2008, 19:27
not sure about fast road may not idle properly?? would make a nice power increase
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: iMation on 30 August 2008, 23:47
dai, http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3272469&page=1
 (http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3272469&page=1)
read that till you know nothing else

Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: dai-cymru on 31 August 2008, 11:42
well been busy reading very suprised at how many americans have done the mod, only thing i did notice is some of the 2.0 had the exhaust manifold at rear of engine (bulk head end) while others were at the front, where is your exhaust manifold? mine is at rear, although would be a lot easier to do if in front, when you planning on starting the conversion imation
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: AlanD on 31 August 2008, 14:09
Not sure if its been mentioned but what sort of power are you expecting from tubbying the 2.0 ?
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: Rhyso on 31 August 2008, 14:11
Quote from: AlanD on 31 August 2008, 14:09
Not sure if its been mentioned but what sort of power are you expecting from tubbying the 2.0 ?

some kits give power of 160bhp and upwards!
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: AlanD on 31 August 2008, 14:29
Quote from: Rhyso on 31 August 2008, 14:11
some kits give power of 160bhp and upwards!

 :undecided: is that it ? Hummmm
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: Rhyso on 31 August 2008, 14:34
Quote from: AlanD on 31 August 2008, 14:29
Quote from: Rhyso on 31 August 2008, 14:11
some kits give power of 160bhp and upwards!

 :undecided: is that it ? Hummmm

others have well over 250bhp  :wink:
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: AlanD on 31 August 2008, 14:52
Thats more like it lol :)
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: dai-cymru on 31 August 2008, 15:41
would imagine it all depends on size of turbo but must admit i think i would be dissapointed with 160
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: Rhyso on 31 August 2008, 15:43
Quote from: dai-cymru on 31 August 2008, 15:41
would imagine it all depends on size of turbo but must admit i think i would be dissapointed with 160

would be a lot of work for only 45bhp  :sad:

big huuuge turbo it is then  :wink:
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: dai-cymru on 31 August 2008, 15:45
Quote from: Rhyso on 31 August 2008, 15:43
Quote from: dai-cymru on 31 August 2008, 15:41
would imagine it all depends on size of turbo but must admit i think i would be dissapointed with 160

would be a lot of work for only 45bhp  :sad:

big huuuge turbo it is then  :wink:


yes and a lot of dosh need to find a bam engine instead me thinks  :cool:
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: Rhyso on 31 August 2008, 15:45
Quote from: dai-cymru on 31 August 2008, 15:45
Quote from: Rhyso on 31 August 2008, 15:43
Quote from: dai-cymru on 31 August 2008, 15:41
would imagine it all depends on size of turbo but must admit i think i would be dissapointed with 160

would be a lot of work for only 45bhp  :sad:

big huuuge turbo it is then  :wink:


yes and a lot of dosh need to find a bam engine instead me thinks  :cool:

going down the engine conversion route instead then mate?  :huh:
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: dai-cymru on 31 August 2008, 15:48
cant decide think it may be a risk to turbo my engine as it already has 106k on it, not a lot but could be when adding pressure from turbo, plus i fancy big power like 225BHP
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: Rhyso on 31 August 2008, 15:50
Quote from: dai-cymru on 31 August 2008, 15:48
cant decide think it may be a risk to turbo my engine as it already has 106k on it, not a lot but could be when adding pressure from turbo, plus i fancy big power like 225BHP

here's one lol

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AUDI-TT-S3-1-8-225bhp-ENGINE-and-TURBO-enginecode-BAM_W0QQitemZ130250515115QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item130250515115&_trkparms=72%3A1090%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

seems expensive  :undecided:
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: dai-cymru on 31 August 2008, 15:53
that is expensive plus doesnt come with the turbo, i would want a whole car really for the loom
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: Rhyso on 31 August 2008, 15:56
Quote from: dai-cymru on 31 August 2008, 15:53
that is expensive plus doesnt come with the turbo, i would want a whole car really for the loom

said turbo in the ad title  :undecided:

steal the engine from Ned's S3  :tongue:
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: dai-cymru on 31 August 2008, 16:00
ah my mistake i read the "whats included part" yeah just buy the whole car off him
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: Rhyso on 31 August 2008, 16:01
Quote from: dai-cymru on 31 August 2008, 16:00
ah my mistake i read the "whats included part" yeah just buy the whole car off him

who said anything about buying  :lipsrsealed: :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: dai-cymru on 31 August 2008, 16:02
Quote from: Rhyso on 31 August 2008, 16:01
Quote from: dai-cymru on 31 August 2008, 16:00
ah my mistake i read the "whats included part" yeah just buy the whole car off him

who said anything about buying  :lipsrsealed: :grin: :grin: :grin:

touchee  :laugh:
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: iMation on 31 August 2008, 23:19
im looking to get at least 250 from the turbo, as for the manifold, mine is on the arse end :D. the AEG engine is the closest to ours the aba was the mk3 version i believe.

just ordered a header spacer.

was at Ed38 today in the pissing rain and spotted piper cams and asked them about cam for the 2.0. Also said about making a equal length manifold, good news if i manage it lol

im hoping to pick up a t3/t4 turbo next week some time :D:D:D:D
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: dai-cymru on 01 September 2008, 18:43
Quote from: iMation on 31 August 2008, 23:19
im looking to get at least 250 from the turbo, as for the manifold, mine is on the arse end :D. the AEG engine is the closest to ours the aba was the mk3 version i believe.

just ordered a header spacer.

was at Ed38 today in the pissing rain and spotted piper cams and asked them about cam for the 2.0. Also said about making a equal length manifold, good news if i manage it lol

im hoping to pick up a t3/t4 turbo next week some time :D:D:D:D




really getting into the turbo route then, cant wait to see the results, with thw cam as well will make hell of a difference
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: ben1.8T on 02 September 2008, 11:16
Keep us up to date with how the builds going mate. Cant wait to see it running.   :cool:
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: AlanD on 05 November 2008, 17:12
Been a while since the update. Whats happening with it mate?
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: iMation on 05 November 2008, 21:41
Quote from: AlanD on 05 November 2008, 17:12
Been a while since the update. Whats happening with it mate?

just got some more parts, just wiating on ECU to come back to me tbh and some bits from USA then im good
Title: Re: 2.turb00000000000000000000
Post by: DrewiD on 08 June 2009, 00:48
 :wink: gr8,, nice1 m8.I was begining to think that no mods where out there for us 2.0 dubbers :)