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Title: whats yours sound like at 1800 revs?
Post by: 182_blue on 03 May 2008, 17:18
is it me or are Gti's a little noisy at the 1800 rpm mark ?, anything before or after that and its fine ?, but at that mark i find it a little loud (the exhaust i mean), do the GTis have a flap on the exhaust like i hear the r32's have ?
Title: Re: whats yours sound like at 1800 revs?
Post by: Hurdy on 03 May 2008, 17:41
The ED30 with a Milltek sounds quieter if anything at low revs. Higher up it comes alive. GTI's at 1800rpm are just below the threshold for the Turbo kicking in and so I'd expect a better sound after 2k revs anyway.

Mine from the rear, but you'll get the idea

(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/hurdy_album/th_hlight016.jpg) (http://s156.photobucket.com/albums/t8/hurdy_album/?action=view&current=hlight016.flv)
Title: Re: whats yours sound like at 1800 revs?
Post by: NewGolf on 03 May 2008, 17:44
Hi 182_blue

My GTI sounds quiet at 1800rpm, just took it out to test. Windows down and in a quiet road its acutally very quiet. It gets a bit noisier around 2500 then starts to whistle after the turbo spins up.

One question for you, which Audi forum would you recommend as it looks like the wifes chosen her car at last.  :sad:

Oh well at least I'll get the GTI all to myself!!!
Title: Re: whats yours sound like at 1800 revs?
Post by: 182_blue on 03 May 2008, 17:48
its odd, outside the car i dont know about, but in the car at about 1800 theres a sort of boom from the exhaust, if i drop down to 1500 it goes away, if i go over 1800 it goes, but if you keep it around 1800 imo its a bit boomy, same as when you back off, it reminds me of a aftermarket exhaust i once had (obviously its standard though)
Title: Re: whats yours sound like at 1800 revs?
Post by: 182_blue on 03 May 2008, 17:51
Hi 182_blue

My GTI sounds quiet at 1800rpm, just took it out to test. Windows down and in a quiet road its acutally very quiet. It gets a bit noisier around 2500 then starts to whistle after the turbo spins up.

One question for you, which Audi forum would you recommend as it looks like the wifes chosen her car at last.  :sad:

Oh well at least I'll get the GTI all to myself!!!

your isnt an edition 30 is it ?

ps theres a couple of audi forums i know of  :-

http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/index.php

http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/
Title: Re: whats yours sound like at 1800 revs?
Post by: Hurdy on 03 May 2008, 17:55
It is probably a bit of resonance getting through between 1500 and 1800 revs. Resonance builds up through the natural frequency that your car vibrates at. It maybe that yours resonates in that rev band through some loose connection or particular part that vibrates in that range :undecided:
Title: Re: whats yours sound like at 1800 revs?
Post by: NewGolf on 03 May 2008, 17:59
Hi 182_blue

My GTI sounds quiet at 1800rpm, just took it out to test. Windows down and in a quiet road its acutally very quiet. It gets a bit noisier around 2500 then starts to whistle after the turbo spins up.

One question for you, which Audi forum would you recommend as it looks like the wifes chosen her car at last.  :sad:

Oh well at least I'll get the GTI all to myself!!!

your isnt an edition 30 is it ?

ps theres a couple of audi forums i know of  :-

http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/index.php

http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/

Mines the GTI, sorry I didnt realise you meant the ED30.

Thanks for the Audi forums, a couple I had looked at all seemed to be full of people arguing about nothing  :sad:
Title: Re: whats yours sound like at 1800 revs?
Post by: Phil mcavity on 03 May 2008, 18:07
Hurdy is yours a full turbo back miltech or just the rear silencer a milltech??
Title: Re: whats yours sound like at 1800 revs?
Post by: 182_blue on 03 May 2008, 18:09
Hi 182_blue

My GTI sounds quiet at 1800rpm, just took it out to test. Windows down and in a quiet road its acutally very quiet. It gets a bit noisier around 2500 then starts to whistle after the turbo spins up.

One question for you, which Audi forum would you recommend as it looks like the wifes chosen her car at last.  :sad:

Oh well at least I'll get the GTI all to myself!!!

your isnt an edition 30 is it ?

ps theres a couple of audi forums i know of  :-

http://www.vwaudiforum.co.uk/forum/index.php

http://www.audi-sport.net/vb/

Mines the GTI, sorry I didnt realise you meant the ED30.

Thanks for the Audi forums, a couple I had looked at all seemed to be full of people arguing about nothing  :sad:

just checking, as im not sure if its a ed30 thing
Title: Re: whats yours sound like at 1800 revs?
Post by: NewGolf on 03 May 2008, 18:15
My turbo is really quiet, I just realised that. In my old 225TT it was really loud which I loved. Remap needed here!!!!!

No point having a turbo if you cant hear it!!!
Title: Re: whats yours sound like at 1800 revs?
Post by: maxamus on 03 May 2008, 18:18
I can hear my turbo kicking in at around 2k revs and after 3k revs i get that nice swishing noise when i back off from the pedal :wink:
Title: Re: whats yours sound like at 1800 revs?
Post by: 182_blue on 03 May 2008, 18:22
I can hear my turbo kicking in at around 2k revs and after 3k revs i get that nice swishing noise when i back off from the pedal :wink:

yeh, i hear my turbo too, but nothing to intrusive, just this 1800 rpm boom, perhaps its the GTi makers trying to make it sound sporty ??
Title: Re: whats yours sound like at 1800 revs?
Post by: NewGolf on 03 May 2008, 18:23
I can hear my turbo kicking in at around 2k revs and after 3k revs i get that nice swishing noise when i back off from the pedal :wink:

Hmmn I dont, after 15 mins driving round the block it only seems to even be barely "whistling" at 2500, and I dont get a swishing noise at all!
The TT had a really nice whistle, especially going up hills or under load.
Title: Re: whats yours sound like at 1800 revs?
Post by: Sweeney on 03 May 2008, 18:24
Havent noticed any sort of boom (will check tomorrow at some point!) but as for the turbo noises mine makes a lot of whistles and swooshes and it sounds brilliant :D. nothing too chavvy/neddy but just right!
Title: Re: whats yours sound like at 1800 revs?
Post by: 182_blue on 03 May 2008, 18:25
I can hear my turbo kicking in at around 2k revs and after 3k revs i get that nice swishing noise when i back off from the pedal :wink:

Hmmn I dont, after 15 mins driving round the block it only seems to even be barely "whistling" at 2500, and I dont get a swishing noise at all!
The TT had a really nice whistle, especially going up hills or under load.

i have a remap though
Title: Re: whats yours sound like at 1800 revs?
Post by: maxamus on 03 May 2008, 18:30
I can hear my turbo kicking in at around 2k revs and after 3k revs i get that nice swishing noise when i back off from the pedal :wink:

Hmmn I dont, after 15 mins driving round the block it only seems to even be barely "whistling" at 2500, and I dont get a swishing noise at all!
The TT had a really nice whistle, especially going up hills or under load.

Im sure i read a thread on this forum about the "swishing" noise. Some people said theres didnt make it but some said they's does. Might be worth a search. The swishing kicks in around 3k revs and i get a noise sound when i change the gear and keep the revs up.
It might depend on how well the engine/exhaust system is bedded in????

Oh and mines the standard GTI without any remap.
Mine makes a nice noise at low revs and its gets better up the rev range  :evil: people do turn around to see what car it is  :laugh:
BUT its not a chavvy sound!
Title: Re: whats yours sound like at 1800 revs?
Post by: 182_blue on 03 May 2008, 18:34
I can hear my turbo kicking in at around 2k revs and after 3k revs i get that nice swishing noise when i back off from the pedal :wink:

Hmmn I dont, after 15 mins driving round the block it only seems to even be barely "whistling" at 2500, and I dont get a swishing noise at all!
The TT had a really nice whistle, especially going up hills or under load.

Im sure i read a thread on this forum about the "swishing" noise. Some people said theres didnt make it but some said they's does. Might be worth a search. The swishing kicks in around 3k revs and i get a noise sound when i change the gear and keep the revs up.
It might depend on how well the engine/exhaust system is bedded in????

Oh and mines the standard GTI without any remap.
Mine makes a nice noise at low revs and its gets better up the rev range  :evil: people do turn around to see what car it is  :laugh:
BUT its not a chavvy sound!


think i may be confusing noisey with sporty i guess,  just when your jused the a five pot growl it takes some getting used to the GTi
Title: Re: whats yours sound like at 1800 revs?
Post by: maxamus on 03 May 2008, 18:36
182_Blue,

You use to own an ST, right?
Title: Re: whats yours sound like at 1800 revs?
Post by: NewGolf on 03 May 2008, 18:37
I have only done 700 miles so far, perhaps it gets louder?
Title: Re: whats yours sound like at 1800 revs?
Post by: 182_blue on 03 May 2008, 18:40
182_Blue,

You use to own an ST, right?

i did indeed, just listen to it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHjTn2MQ7_8
Title: Re: whats yours sound like at 1800 revs?
Post by: NewGolf on 03 May 2008, 18:40
182_Blue,

You use to own an ST, right?

he did, but he saw the light and now appreciates German engineering !  :wink: :wink:
Title: Re: whats yours sound like at 1800 revs?
Post by: 182_blue on 03 May 2008, 18:41
I have only done 700 miles so far, perhaps it gets louder?

perhaps mine is blowing LOL
Title: Re: whats yours sound like at 1800 revs?
Post by: NewGolf on 03 May 2008, 18:44
I have only done 700 miles so far, perhaps it gets louder?

perhaps mine is blowing LOL

Do you have Vag Com now to see if you have any fault codes?
Title: Re: whats yours sound like at 1800 revs?
Post by: 182_blue on 03 May 2008, 18:46
I have only done 700 miles so far, perhaps it gets louder?

perhaps mine is blowing LOL

Do you have Vag Com now to see if you have any fault codes?

i dont yet, need to find a VAT free way of getting one  :wink:
Title: Re: whats yours sound like at 1800 revs?
Post by: maxamus on 03 May 2008, 18:48
I have only done 700 miles so far, perhaps it gets louder?

I think you will have to wait till your engine and system if fully bedded in mate............perhaps till the engine has opened up
Title: Re: whats yours sound like at 1800 revs?
Post by: Hurdy on 03 May 2008, 19:13
Hurdy is yours a full turbo back miltech or just the rear silencer a milltech??

Full Milltek Tubo-back exhaust including the downpipe and free flow sports cat....obviously nothing less will do :wink:
Title: Re: whats yours sound like at 1800 revs?
Post by: gazbutmk5gti on 03 May 2008, 19:17
u get resonated Hurdy
Title: Re: whats yours sound like at 1800 revs?
Post by: Hurdy on 03 May 2008, 19:33
u get resonated Hurdy

Yes, mine is resonated.

I'd heard a few comments about the non-resonated Milltek being boomy at motorway speeds and I wasn't really after much more noise anyway (only really wanted the power :wink:) and so plumped for the res one :nerd:
Title: Re: whats yours sound like at 1800 revs?
Post by: NewGolf on 03 May 2008, 19:48
I have only done 700 miles so far, perhaps it gets louder?

I think you will have to wait till your engine and system if fully bedded in mate............perhaps till the engine has opened up
Makes sense i suppose, i wonder if the engines restricted somehow until 1k miles or something?
Title: Re: whats yours sound like at 1800 revs?
Post by: maxamus on 03 May 2008, 19:55
I have only done 700 miles so far, perhaps it gets louder?

I think you will have to wait till your engine and system if fully bedded in mate............perhaps till the engine has opened up
Makes sense i suppose, i wonder if the engines restricted somehow until 1k miles or something?

I dont think there are any restictions as such. I think it just needs time to open up. Its one of the reasons why new cars drink so much oil in the first few thousand miles.
Title: Re: whats yours sound like at 1800 revs?
Post by: Phil mcavity on 03 May 2008, 19:57
how much was a full system hurdy, my system was changed from the turbo to rear silenser, i bet it cost VW an absolute fortune under warranty!. i wonder what the retail price is? let alone what a miltech one costs :undecided:
Title: Re: whats yours sound like at 1800 revs?
Post by: RedRobin on 03 May 2008, 20:27
....As maxamus says, the engine's aren't restricted but are built by German vestal virgins and so are a bit tight to begin with :evil:. It's a well known fact that VW engines loosen up with miles.

I don't know about stock exhausts but Milltek stainless steel xzorsts definitely take a few 1,000 miles to mature.

I've got the Non-Resonated Hi-flow+Downpipe Milltek (quad outlets you may have noticed :evil:). It's only a wee bit louder than Resonated which in turn is only a wee bit louder than standard. Full song at higher revs is a joy to listen to. "Sporty" is the most appropriate description and quiet at lower revs. My turbo comes in at about 1,900 revs and power remains waaaay beyond UK legal speeds (tested on German autobahns with vestal virgins in attendance getting excited).

This is what Milltek quads look like [ANY excuse to post a pic and pose!]

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/MySpace%20SlideShow/RED_rearR32CF.jpg)
Title: Re: whats yours sound like at 1800 revs?
Post by: 182_blue on 03 May 2008, 20:29
how much was a full system hurdy, my system was changed from the turbo to rear silenser, i bet it cost VW an absolute fortune under warranty!. i wonder what the retail price is? let alone what a miltech one costs :undecided:

pm him, that way we may keep on topic  :laugh:
Title: Re: whats yours sound like at 1800 revs?
Post by: RedRobin on 03 May 2008, 20:31
how much was a full system hurdy, my system was changed from the turbo to rear silenser, i bet it cost VW an absolute fortune under warranty!. i wonder what the retail price is? let alone what a miltech one costs :undecided:

pm him, that way we may keep on topic  :laugh:

....My apologies - I posted before I saw this.
Title: Re: whats yours sound like at 1800 revs?
Post by: 182_blue on 03 May 2008, 20:32
how much was a full system hurdy, my system was changed from the turbo to rear silenser, i bet it cost VW an absolute fortune under warranty!. i wonder what the retail price is? let alone what a miltech one costs :undecided:

pm him, that way we may keep on topic  :laugh:

....My apologies - I posted before I saw this.

LOL, no probs, yours is on topic anyway

i was only kidding, and i am interested in a miltek anyway
Title: Re: whats yours sound like at 1800 revs?
Post by: Hurdy on 03 May 2008, 22:21
Here's a copy of Awesomes reply to me.

"The downpipe is £564.50 retail , our price is £508.05 + VAT

The cat back is retail £384.50 + VAT for the non resonated our price would be £364.05 + VAT

Cat back on the resonated would be retail £450.65 + VAT and our price will be £405.59 + VAT

Fitting we have never done one , but as an estimate approx £148.50 + VAT (3 hours)"

Fitting took 2 hrs.

All in £1190 - and I think the prices have gone up a little since :shocked:. but they may have become faster at fitting :undecided:
Title: Re: whats yours sound like at 1800 revs?
Post by: 182_blue on 03 May 2008, 22:24
Here's a copy of Awesomes reply to me.

"The downpipe is £564.50 retail , our price is £508.05 + VAT

The cat back is retail £384.50 + VAT for the non resonated our price would be £364.05 + VAT

Cat back on the resonated would be retail £450.65 + VAT and our price will be £405.59 + VAT

Fitting we have never done one , but as an estimate approx £148.50 + VAT (3 hours)"

Fitting took 2 hrs.

All in £1190 - and I think the prices have gone up a little since :shocked:. but they may have become faster at fitting :undecided:

wow, not cheap, i will have to grab a ride in a miltek equipped car, the miltek factory is 10 mins from me too :-)
Title: Re: whats yours sound like at 1800 revs?
Post by: gazbutmk5gti on 04 May 2008, 11:21
Here's a copy of Awesomes reply to me.

"The downpipe is £564.50 retail , our price is £508.05 + VAT

The cat back is retail £384.50 + VAT for the non resonated our price would be £364.05 + VAT

Cat back on the resonated would be retail £450.65 + VAT and our price will be £405.59 + VAT

Fitting we have never done one , but as an estimate approx £148.50 + VAT (3 hours)"

Fitting took 2 hrs.

All in £1190 - and I think the prices have gone up a little since :shocked:. but they may have become faster at fitting :undecided:

I've just ordered the same system as Hurdy from Awesome and I thinks about £1140 all in including fitting, should be fitted next Friday :grin:

Title: Re: whats yours sound like at 1800 revs?
Post by: RedRobin on 04 May 2008, 11:42
....I thought that most officially approved Milltek suppliers were obliged to fit for free! That's certainly how it used to be.
Title: Re: whats yours sound like at 1800 revs?
Post by: 182_blue on 04 May 2008, 11:50
i dont know of anyone who fits it for free now
Title: Re: whats yours sound like at 1800 revs?
Post by: Hurdy on 04 May 2008, 17:04
Here's a copy of Awesomes reply to me.

"The downpipe is £564.50 retail , our price is £508.05 + VAT

The cat back is retail £384.50 + VAT for the non resonated our price would be £364.05 + VAT

Cat back on the resonated would be retail £450.65 + VAT and our price will be £405.59 + VAT

Fitting we have never done one , but as an estimate approx £148.50 + VAT (3 hours)"

Fitting took 2 hrs.

All in £1190 - and I think the prices have gone up a little since :shocked:. but they may have become faster at fitting :undecided:

I've just ordered the same system as Hurdy from Awesome and I thinks about £1140 all in including fitting, should be fitted next Friday :grin:



They must have reduced the fitting time to 1 hour then now :undecided: