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Title: Timing not adjustable
Post by: SoundillusioN on 23 April 2004, 02:15
 :D Hey people, I'm new here and am very impressed with the site content and how helpful u all r 2 each other.  Wish i'd come here sooner.  Sadly I had to part with my previous GTI, she was very tired but always made me smile, new owner who is a spanner whizz is gonna sort her out so at least i'll still see her.  I'm now the proud owner of another 83 campaign, black,  in mint condition with a GTI Engineering Silverstone engine, thats sadly a little tired also (only the head mind).  

 :'( The problem I have is that for the past month despite being typically tappety (very tappety), she's been going quite well, especially after 3 thousand revs, flies then (old high lifts).  But all of a sudden she devolped an idle speed problem where she'd sit at 2k +.  So for the time being I adjusted this.  This was follwed a few days later by the timing being way out, so it sounded. She was missing and had a severe lack of power.  I retarded ignition which solved the missing but that resulted in even less omph.  Few days later, same again.  The Dizzy seems to want to go round shed loads to keep her ticking over but its now as far back as it will go and still wants to go back more.  If I return to the orginal setting before the first problem she wont even start.  Car has lost all power and continually misses when cruising at any speed.  The leads are not in the wrong order.  I didnt do anything to it before now. the car has been dried stored from new and everything seems a little too dry.  no grease on anything. been on to it.  Is it possible the Cam belts slipped a tooth to cause my problem.  Heard that the tentioner can be dodge if dry.  Any help would be great.  8)
Title: Re:Timing not adjustable
Post by: richandhazel on 23 April 2004, 09:02
It's not unheard of........If it were me, I think the first thing I would do now is whip the timing belt cover off and check your tension and alignment. Let us know if you find anything wrong.........

Welcome aboard 8)
Title: Re:Timing not adjustable
Post by: SoundillusioN on 23 April 2004, 10:33
Thanx for the welcome and prompt reply.  Hving a look after work or at the latest tomorrow, i'll let you know what i find.  ;)
Title: Re:Timing not adjustable
Post by: Joester on 23 April 2004, 14:00
My timing belt cover has a hole in the side you can stick your finger in to check the belt tension.
I don't know if it's meant to, or if someone has put it there, but it is quite handy.
Title: Re:Timing not adjustable
Post by: gibby on 23 April 2004, 17:31
Don't know how to fix your problem but thought I would just say welcome to the site. Questions are usually answered very quickly on here.  :)
Title: Re:Timing not adjustable
Post by: richandhazel on 23 April 2004, 18:37
My timing belt cover has a hole in the side you can stick your finger in to check the belt tension.
I don't know if it's meant to, or if someone has put it there, but it is quite handy.

Are there two holes of similar size? Sounds like its your blanks for access to the alternator bolt
Title: Re:Timing not adjustable
Post by: SoundillusioN on 26 April 2004, 00:42
 8) Thanx for the welcomes and advice.  Stripped her down over the weekend Inc the belt cover.  Had a real **** of a day.  The pulleys were put on wrong making it look like the car was setup 180 out.  All the timing marks were wrong.  Also with the car not having a standard head I was a little puzzled as to what to do.  Had a friend give me a hand and we cracked on.  Took the cam cover off, set the bottom end to TDC and then removed cam belt (which was more slack than me grannies knickers!).  Turned camshaft till cylinder 1 valves were both in closed position and cylinder 4 was rocking.  Refitted cam belt after inspecting it, reset the tensioner and, ta da.  She flies again.  Well happy.  Seems like whoever did the cam belt change was a monkey.  Didn?t take up enough slack on the belt before doing up the tensioner.  Hence she had slipped 3 teeth! Just need to get me strobe to it to make perfect then should be 100%.   Still need to get the clearances done though.  I hate that tappet rattle.  Been told with high lifters it'll never be perfect but its awful now.  Why are the old 8v's so bad for that.  From new, they don?t seem to last long enough.
Title: Re:Timing not adjustable
Post by: SoundillusioN on 26 April 2004, 00:47
By the way, I know i may have ramled a little, just glad i got me girl back.  Posted pics in gallery if anyone interested, page 3 under SoundillusioN.  And yes I know the wheels have to go :-[.  Been on the car since 93.  when people thought 3 spokes were cool.  I didnt fit em.
Title: Re:Timing not adjustable
Post by: richandhazel on 26 April 2004, 09:57
Glad you got it sorted :)

Direct link to your pics:-

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/gallery/index.php?cat=18227 (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/gallery/index.php?cat=18227)
Title: Re:Timing not adjustable
Post by: SoundillusioN on 29 April 2004, 01:03
tyin that signature thing after a good long read.
Title: Re:Timing not adjustable
Post by: SoundillusioN on 29 April 2004, 01:23
file too big, will have to wait for my uploaded, reduced sized signature pic is approved. 8)
Title: Re:Timing not adjustable
Post by: richandhazel on 29 April 2004, 01:29
Hold on, I'll approve that for you now ;)
Title: Re:Timing not adjustable
Post by: richandhazel on 29 April 2004, 01:31
Done :)
Title: Re:Timing not adjustable
Post by: SoundillusioN on 29 April 2004, 18:57
 :D wow, thanx.  Must ave just missed ya.  What on earth are you doing up that early in the morning. Mind u i'm just as bad.  I had a prob because when I open a pic from the gallery with the comments underneath I can get to the tools menu and go to the source code (for the whole page), if I then click on the pic again to have it just in a win on its own, the explorer window has no drop down menu's. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm? ???.  Ah well U sorted it so thanx again.  Whats the smaller sig pics to the left under ur name sourced from?
Title: Re:Timing not adjustable
Post by: SoundillusioN on 29 April 2004, 19:03
Ah, don't worry, just me being blind. 8).
Title: Re:Timing not adjustable
Post by: richandhazel on 29 April 2004, 20:03
I work a combination of days and nights and was on nights last night hence still being on here at silly aclock :)

Glad to have helped ;)