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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: Hurdy on 02 May 2008, 11:39

Title: Intercooler alternatives
Post by: Hurdy on 02 May 2008, 11:39
Well, I've been looking for an intercooler for the old girl and found out that the APR one I was hoping to get doesn't fit the DSG ED30 (see note on Awesome site) :cry: This now leaves me in a bit of a quandry as to what option to go for as the S3 and Oettinger ones are virtually the same yet both are designed for the manual box. The only one I see that will fit is the Forge Twintercooler andthis looks like the option I'll end up going for unless anyone has any other alternatives or knows for definite that the S3 one fits.

Help!!!
Title: Re: Intercooler alternatives
Post by: AlanD on 02 May 2008, 12:51
Wouldnt VW and Audi between them be able to tell you if it fits?
Title: Re: Intercooler alternatives
Post by: Hurdy on 02 May 2008, 14:09
Not necessarily as they aren't standard fit :undecided:

It is a bit academic now as I've gone ahead and bought a Forge one :evil:
Title: Re: Intercooler alternatives
Post by: joesgti on 02 May 2008, 14:17
what exactly does an intercooler do? i know im sounding thick, but whats the difference between an intercooler and a twintercooler?  :huh:
Title: Re: Intercooler alternatives
Post by: Hurdy on 02 May 2008, 14:26
what exactly does an intercooler do? i know im sounding thick, but whats the difference between an intercooler and a twintercooler?  :huh:

Follow the link. It explains it better than I can :cool:

http://www.forgemotorsport.co.uk/content.asp?inc=product&cat=0013&product=FMINTMK5
Title: Re: Intercooler alternatives
Post by: gazbutmk5gti on 02 May 2008, 18:06
Have you spoke to Awesome Hurdy, they have APR intercooler fitted to their car and thats DSG :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Intercooler alternatives
Post by: k4ith on 02 May 2008, 18:27
I am in the process of ordering the S3 Intercooler, it comes with all nec pipe work incl and fits straight onto the ED30, my tuner has fitted two(1 Seat) already and reckons 2-3 hours work and will cost £499 fitted hoping to have it done for the trip to Awesome.
Title: Re: Intercooler alternatives
Post by: gazbutmk5gti on 02 May 2008, 18:32
I am in the process of ordering the S3 Intercooler, it comes with all nec pipe work incl and fits straight onto the ED30, my tuner has fitted two(1 Seat) already and reckons 2-3 hours work and will cost £499 fitted hoping to have it done for the trip to Awesome.

Tell me more, who?, do you have a list of parts needed?
Title: Re: Intercooler alternatives
Post by: k4ith on 02 May 2008, 20:50
Gaz Its Star Performance, the intercooler roughly £330-60 incl vat alone, with fitting £499.Its slightly bigger and thicker and made of alloy unlike the plastic OEM one, the cooler comes with the necessary pipe work too.A guy ran some before and after vag-com checks and reckons  a reduction in temperature of 20%.
Title: Re: Intercooler alternatives
Post by: gazbutmk5gti on 02 May 2008, 21:43
So its a straight bolt-on replacement then pal, do you have any part numbers :smiley:
Title: Re: Intercooler alternatives
Post by: k4ith on 03 May 2008, 10:22
heres some pics too.
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e170/b44fy/8618033384.jpg)
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e170/b44fy/8618033390.jpg)
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e170/b44fy/8618033431.jpg)
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e170/b44fy/8618033442.jpg)
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e170/b44fy/8618033445.jpg)
Part no's. I would confirm the pipes come with the cooler 1st as i was told they did.
S3 Intercooler > 1K0 145 803 P
S3 Left Pressure hose > 1K0 145 834 AA
S3 Right Connection hose > 1K0 145 832 L
Title: Re: Intercooler alternatives
Post by: Hurdy on 03 May 2008, 13:19
Some of these posts are very interesting. I was put off the S3 one as I was informed that it didn't have the cooling capacity of the APR one and that the APR one didn't fit a DSG (looks like it may do now :undecided:). The Oettinger one is basically the same as the S3 one and so I thought that it wouldn't have the added intercooling capacity of the APR one either. The Forge write up looks good with proven improvements in bhp and lbft, but my issue in the past was that it didn't look "stock". I'm over the stock look now and so don't mind if it shows at all. :evil:
Title: Re: Intercooler alternatives
Post by: gazbutmk5gti on 03 May 2008, 15:10
Just my personal opinion Hurdy, I looked into the forge twintercooler pal and I couldn't help thinkin it looked like a botch job, I'm not doubting it works but it just looks half finished and sort of stuck-on if you know what I mean.
Think I'm gonna go the S3 route or maybe take a trip to the money tree in the back garden and get the APR one.
Title: Re: Intercooler alternatives
Post by: Hurdy on 03 May 2008, 15:33
Just my personal opinion Hurdy, I looked into the forge twintercooler pal and I couldn't help thinkin it looked like a botch job, I'm not doubting it works but it just looks half finished and sort of stuck-on if you know what I mean.
Think I'm gonna go the S3 route or maybe take a trip to the money tree in the back garden and get the APR one.

After we've done these mods Gaz we'll only be a short hop away from the big-ass turbo conversion :grin: :rolleyes: :wink: JBS have quite a few options to go for :evil:
Title: Re: Intercooler alternatives
Post by: Phil mcavity on 03 May 2008, 20:43
You guys have too much spare cash!
 :shocked:

im just jelous me!, glad to just have an ed30, i wish my wife would let splash the cash but i cant grumble.She could of divorced me ages ago for blowing several thousand!.

 sorry get back on topic, ill just sit in the corner and be quiet  :wink:
Title: Re: Intercooler alternatives
Post by: gazbutmk5gti on 04 May 2008, 10:45
Dual income no kids pal, them little beggers just suck up all your car modding money :grin:
Title: Re: Intercooler alternatives
Post by: Hurdy on 04 May 2008, 11:00
Dual income no kids pal, them little beggers just suck up all your car modding money :grin:

Absolutely right Gaz - no kids here :grin:
Title: Re: Intercooler alternatives
Post by: k4ith on 17 May 2008, 11:36
resurrecting this,
Ordered my Audi S3 Intercooler - £275 :shocked: a guy i know on seatcupra.net got a good deal for ordering 3 of them.
just need to get someone to fit it now.
Title: Re: Intercooler alternatives
Post by: neg on 17 May 2008, 11:47
I would be very interested at that kinda price, any idea what price your looking at for fitting and it anything else is needed ? Just need the IC and pipe work...
Title: Re: Intercooler alternatives
Post by: k4ith on 17 May 2008, 12:50
we bought 3 together so we got them at that price. not sure how much for fitting though yet looking at 3hours work?
Title: Re: Intercooler alternatives
Post by: gazbutmk5gti on 17 May 2008, 17:59
I would be very interested at that kinda price, any idea what price your looking at for fitting and it anything else is needed ? Just need the IC and pipe work...

Group buy?
Title: Re: Intercooler alternatives
Post by: 182_blue on 17 May 2008, 19:11
i wouldnt have thought Audi would do group buys, all yo need is someone who gets discount
Title: Re: Intercooler alternatives
Post by: Hurdy on 17 May 2008, 20:50
I've been reading up a bit more and the Forge Twintercooler can be used in conjunction with the S3 intercooler, so get both :wink:
Title: Re: Intercooler alternatives
Post by: vRStu on 17 May 2008, 21:34
I toiled over coolers for ages and after fitting one for somone else I can't help thinking that the Twinter Cooler adds a restriction where the pipes split off.

I went for the OEM S3 one which incidentally is the same as the Oetinger one.

Some comparison pics -

(http://www.octavia-vrs.com/linked/Cooler1.jpg)

(http://www.octavia-vrs.com/linked/Cooler2.jpg)

(http://www.octavia-vrs.com/linked/Cooler3.jpg)

(http://www.octavia-vrs.com/linked/Cooler4.jpg)
Title: Re: Intercooler alternatives
Post by: 182_blue on 17 May 2008, 21:38
*edit*

looks better that