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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: k4ith on 23 April 2008, 19:43

Title: Mk5 R32 Brake upgrade.
Post by: k4ith on 23 April 2008, 19:43
I have for some months now been searching for a MK5 R32 brake set up on here, other forums and ebay narrowly missing out on one set to a UKMKivs member for £350 :sad:.I managed to source the relevant part no's and called my local VW & Seat Parts Dept(same set us R32) The prices are different for what is essentially the same parts.Interesting prices to see end of my post, today though i am going to start with my build with what i think is a bargain! :smiley: While speaking to someone at Awesome reg discs etc they mantioned i should try Euro Car Parts as they stock OEM parts too which i did and nearly fell of me seat, now VW charge £161 for 1 R32 calliper, euro car parts  advised £156 for 2 this is made up of £51.67, part plus 17.5% vat and £15 fee for non return of old calliper.I was sceptical that they would be pattern parts but when they arrived after less than 24hrs wait(VW or Seat couldn't even give a date in the month lol!) they are the gen article made by ATE with the VW & Audi stamp pic provided, only bad bit they dont do the carrier :cry: :cry:I have to go to VW and wait.
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e170/b44fy/Calliper.jpg)
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e170/b44fy/DSC00076.jpg)
VW
LH Calliper: 1K0 615 123J - £161.63
RH Calliper: 1K0 615 124J - £161.63
Carriers: 1K0 615 125F - £119.10 each
Seat
LH Calliper: 1K0 615 123K - £109.32
RH Calliper: 1K0 615 124K - £109.32
Carriers: 1K0 615 125G - £146.05 each


Title: Re: Mk5 R32 Brake upgrade.
Post by: 182_blue on 23 April 2008, 19:50
are the R32 brakes any good ?, i had ATE brakes like the R32 ones on the ST and they used to fade quite easily !!!, so i swopped them for a set of AP's
Title: Re: Mk5 R32 Brake upgrade.
Post by: R32UK on 23 April 2008, 20:01
No fade. but i do find the abs a bit crap at dealing with braking hard on bumpy surfaces.
Title: Re: Mk5 R32 Brake upgrade.
Post by: 182_blue on 23 April 2008, 20:05
No fade. but i do find the abs a bit crap at dealing with braking hard on bumpy surfaces.

do you get them hot enough  :laugh:
Title: Re: Mk5 R32 Brake upgrade.
Post by: R32UK on 23 April 2008, 20:08
No fade. but i do find the abs a bit crap at dealing with braking hard on bumpy surfaces.

do you get them hot enough  :laugh:

Oh yeah! they are still smoking in the morning sometimes :smug:
Title: Re: Mk5 R32 Brake upgrade.
Post by: k4ith on 23 April 2008, 20:27
In this months VW Driver an Ed30 driver has them fitted and he's happy, uses them for tackdays too.
312mm standard gti/ed30, 344mm r32 set up, I tried them on the MK2 Cupra and was happy about them.
Title: Re: Mk5 R32 Brake upgrade.
Post by: neg on 23 April 2008, 23:06
I noticed that article too, he did have bigger 12pots which caused too much dust or something - says the R32's are fine.

I also used Euro Car parts for my brake pads when VW didnt have any UK stock and I needed some, genunie stamped parts cheaper
Title: Re: Mk5 R32 Brake upgrade.
Post by: Bolle on 24 April 2008, 10:05
Sounds interesting. Isn't more convinient to order the Seat Cupra versions as these are painted red already AFAIK.

I just missed out on a set of R32 brakes going for 350 EUR on the German Ebay.
Title: Re: Mk5 R32 Brake upgrade.
Post by: topher on 24 April 2008, 10:40
Could just be the way the pics are taken but they look a bit small, and the stamping is different to mine. Did you check part #'s to make sure they didn't send you rear calipers?

Title: Re: Mk5 R32 Brake upgrade.
Post by: k4ith on 24 April 2008, 13:05
Sounds interesting. Isn't more convinient to order the Seat Cupra versions as these are painted red already AFAIK.

I just missed out on a set of R32 brakes going for 350 EUR on the German Ebay.

That was my first port of call as i had imagined that the R32 would come as blue and would req painting, but Seat & VW wanted the money up front and could not give me a delivery date, but i will have to do that anyway now unless i can get in touch with the manufacturer instead.

I am 100% sure they are the fronts, they weight a fair bit too.
Title: Re: Mk5 R32 Brake upgrade.
Post by: Komenda on 24 April 2008, 13:08
They look a bit square to be fronts, have you compared them to the ones on your car?
Title: Re: Mk5 R32 Brake upgrade.
Post by: Bolle on 24 April 2008, 13:14
After looking at the pic, it looks that these are rear brakes to be honest.

Looking at some pics from an eBay auction on R32 front brakes http://cgi.ebay.de/Golf-5-R32-Bremsanlage-komplett-Vorderachse_W0QQitemZ170212427541QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.de/Golf-5-R32-Bremsanlage-komplett-Vorderachse_W0QQitemZ170212427541QQcmdZViewItem), these look different.

(http://i1.ebayimg.com/01/i/000/ea/8e/4e61_1.JPG)
(http://i10.ebayimg.com/05/i/000/ea/8e/4f1a_1.JPG)
(http://i10.ebayimg.com/07/i/000/ea/8e/5274_1.JPG)
(http://i10.ebayimg.com/05/i/000/ea/8e/5579_1.JPG)

Or the identical S3 frontbrake kit http://cgi.ebay.de/Audi-S3-8P-Bremsanlage-A3-8P-8PA-auch-Golf-5-V-Bremsen_W0QQitemZ150237542263QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.de/Audi-S3-8P-Bremsanlage-A3-8P-8PA-auch-Golf-5-V-Bremsen_W0QQitemZ150237542263QQcmdZViewItem)
(http://i9.ebayimg.com/05/i/000/c2/8c/5293_1.JPG)

The R32 kit I missed out on http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330226928658&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:DE:1123 (http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330226928658&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:DE:1123)
(http://i14.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/e8/55/beee_1.JPG)
Title: Re: Mk5 R32 Brake upgrade.
Post by: 182_blue on 24 April 2008, 14:46
After looking at the pic, it looks that these are rear brakes to be honest.

Looking at some pics from an eBay auction on R32 front brakes http://cgi.ebay.de/Golf-5-R32-Bremsanlage-komplett-Vorderachse_W0QQitemZ170212427541QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.de/Golf-5-R32-Bremsanlage-komplett-Vorderachse_W0QQitemZ170212427541QQcmdZViewItem), these look different.



Or the identical S3 frontbrake kit http://cgi.ebay.de/Audi-S3-8P-Bremsanlage-A3-8P-8PA-auch-Golf-5-V-Bremsen_W0QQitemZ150237542263QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.de/Audi-S3-8P-Bremsanlage-A3-8P-8PA-auch-Golf-5-V-Bremsen_W0QQitemZ150237542263QQcmdZViewItem)
(http://i9.ebayimg.com/05/i/000/c2/8c/5293_1.JPG)



The s3 kit looks better imo , the R32 are one single large pot like my old ST ones, if there that good maybe i should have kept them instead of selling them so cheap LOL

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y8/182_blue/DSCF0196.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y8/182_blue/DSCF0197.jpg)

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y8/182_blue/DSCF0195.jpg)
Title: Re: Mk5 R32 Brake upgrade.
Post by: Bolle on 24 April 2008, 16:15
AFAIK the S3/R32/Cupra brakes are identical apart from color.
They're single pot and not the best brakes out there, but a relatively affordable OEM upgrade from the not-so-great GTI setup
Title: Re: Mk5 R32 Brake upgrade.
Post by: Hurdy on 24 April 2008, 16:42
I noticed that article too, he did have bigger 12pots which caused too much dust or something - says the R32's are fine.

I also used Euro Car parts for my brake pads when VW didnt have any UK stock and I needed some, genunie stamped parts cheaper

I'm hoping the 10 pots I've ordered are better dust-wise. The 12 pots have much larger pads (almost double that of the R32 ones) and so shed quite a bit of dust, whereas the 10 pots have around 50% more. I'll live with the dust if the brakes are as good as I've been told :wink:
Title: Re: Mk5 R32 Brake upgrade.
Post by: 182_blue on 24 April 2008, 16:43
i had 6 pots on my old car and dust was better than the standard brakes TBH
Title: Re: Mk5 R32 Brake upgrade.
Post by: Komenda on 24 April 2008, 17:47
I'm hoping the 10 pots I've ordered are better dust-wise. The 12 pots have much larger pads (almost double that of the R32 ones) and so shed quite a bit of dust, whereas the 10 pots have around 50% more. I'll live with the dust if the brakes are as good as I've been told :wink:

10 Pots, are you planning on re'arranging your internal organs  :grin: I assume they're a small piston design?
Title: Re: Mk5 R32 Brake upgrade.
Post by: Hurdy on 24 April 2008, 17:56
I'm hoping the 10 pots I've ordered are better dust-wise. The 12 pots have much larger pads (almost double that of the R32 ones) and so shed quite a bit of dust, whereas the 10 pots have around 50% more. I'll live with the dust if the brakes are as good as I've been told :wink:

10 Pots, are you planning on re'arranging your internal organs  :grin: I assume they're a small piston design?

Yeah, they are small pistons in TAROX calipers.
 :drool:
Title: Re: Mk5 R32 Brake upgrade.
Post by: 182_blue on 24 April 2008, 18:20
hmm, you do need to ba careful with to many pots, you would probably get better results with 6 pots, but just wouldnt look as good i guess
Title: Re: Mk5 R32 Brake upgrade.
Post by: Komenda on 24 April 2008, 20:03

Nice. What colour have you gone for. The Gun metal ones would look nice on your car.
Title: Re: Mk5 R32 Brake upgrade.
Post by: neg on 24 April 2008, 20:26
I reckon the Porker 6 pots would be enough on a Golf
Title: Re: Mk5 R32 Brake upgrade.
Post by: k4ith on 24 April 2008, 22:14
worried now
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e170/b44fy/ca55_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Mk5 R32 Brake upgrade.
Post by: 182_blue on 24 April 2008, 22:37
ooh, did you not know that you had rears ?, have you bought the fronts also ?
Title: Re: Mk5 R32 Brake upgrade.
Post by: Hurdy on 25 April 2008, 13:00

Nice. What colour have you gone for. The Gun metal ones would look nice on your car.

Yup, I'm having the gunmetal coloured ones :drool: