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Title: Starter motor problems (update) SOTRED !!!!!
Post by: Uruk Hai on 21 April 2008, 09:10
I have a problem with the starter motor on my 91 8V, when I try and start the car it just clicks once and then does nothing every time I turn the key, the battery is fine and well charged. I have a spare starter motor that I took off the car because it started just turning the engine for a split second and then diss-engaging as if it had started the car. Is it possible to sort one of the two motors out or to make one good one from the two motors or am I better off just getting a new one and binning both the one on the car and the spare one  :undecided: :sad:
Title: Re: Starter motor problems
Post by: mattneck(Beavis) on 21 April 2008, 11:03
ive got te same at the moment, sometimes.

Honest answer, hit it, with a hammer, a couple of times, and it works  :laugh:
Title: Re: Starter motor problems
Post by: cняis on 21 April 2008, 12:09
try cleaning the connection between the starter and solenoid, its a thin wire which slips onto the starter motor via a spade connector, could be corroded causing the solenoid to engage but no starter motor  :wink:
Title: Re: Starter motor problems
Post by: Ben Lessani on 21 April 2008, 12:53
Odds are solenoid, as above, clean up the terminals or re-crimp.
Title: Re: Starter motor problems
Post by: Uruk Hai on 21 April 2008, 14:02
Thanks for all of the suggestions and advice, this morning I've taken my spare motor apart and given it all a good clean and re-grease so I'm hoping if I put that one in it will be O.K then I can take the one thats on the car and sticking apart and have a go at sorting that one out.

Matt, thats exactly what I was going to do and when I went to the garage this morning the f@cker started up as sweet as a nut  ? F@cking cars  :rolleyes: :grin:
Title: Re: Starter motor problems
Post by: cняis on 21 April 2008, 14:05
if its intermittant it could be what me and ben suggested!  :wink:
Title: Re: Starter motor problems
Post by: Uruk Hai on 21 April 2008, 14:08
Well the suns just come out so its time to do the starting motor swop  :grin:
Title: Re: Starter motor problems
Post by: 8vRicey on 21 April 2008, 14:44
Good luck with the bottom bolt !!!  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Starter motor problems
Post by: Uruk Hai on 21 April 2008, 17:36
Well what complete waste of time and effort that was    :sick::angry::evil:  I put the rebuilt starter motor on and it just spun, it wouldnt engage at all. To make matters worse I cant even swap the solenoids round because I cant get the one that does engage off the starter, the three screws might as well be welded in ! What a complete c#nt, it looks as though I've got two starter motors that are both w@nker'ed and I cant even make one good one out of the pair ! 8vRicey, the bottom bolt was a bit of b@stard but I just put the jack under the gearbox and made it f@ck up then the bolt just slipped in, just a shame I'll have to do it all again.  :rolleyes:  Thats it for today, I've had enough and I dont have a shred of patience left, I'm at the point where I'm thinking f@ck it I'll just blow the pile of sh!t up ! I'll probably end doing what I should have done from the start, get a new motor ! Oh well I've got a car that wont start and tomorow as well as working out what to do about a starter I'm gonna change the sump gasket, gearbox and engine oil, I must be sh!t nuts !

Rant over, happy days  :grin:
Title: Re: Starter motor problems
Post by: mattneck(Beavis) on 21 April 2008, 18:50
G,

can sort a genuine Bosch motor on an exchange for your old unit via my work for a decent price if you want. PM me and lmk..

That name again, bosch  :wink:
Title: Re: Starter motor problems
Post by: Uruk Hai on 22 April 2008, 07:44
Back to it, wish me luck  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Starter motor problems and more (update ?)
Post by: Uruk Hai on 22 April 2008, 18:30
Well another fine day I havent had  :angry: , went out this morning and changed the gearbox oil no problem at all then I decided to change the PAS and alernator belts and thats where it all went wrong  :evil:. I had to use a lump hammer and piece of wood just to move the PAS pump and then the belt that was supplied to me by AVS car parts was 15 mm too short  :angry: :evil:, (anyone else had this problem ?) even when the water pump pulley and the PAS pump pulley were touching the new belt wouldnt go on  :rolleyes:. I bought another new belt that was the correct length and then while I was doing up the adjuster the f@cking bolt snapped off  :cry: but I've managed to get it all sorted, thank f@ck  :rolleyes: Anyone else get days like this or is it just me  :undecided:
Title: Re: Starter motor problems and more (update ?)
Post by: cняis on 22 April 2008, 18:34
Anyone else get days like this or is it just me  :undecided:

just you mate, the rest of us are living the life of riley  :cool: :tongue:
Title: Re: Starter motor problems (and that was just the start !)
Post by: Uruk Hai on 22 April 2008, 18:37
Thanks a f@cking million ! Thats cheered me up no end  :wink: :grin:
Title: Re: Starter motor problems (and that was just the start !)
Post by: mattneck(Beavis) on 22 April 2008, 20:24
you have a pm which might also help  :grin:
Title: Re: Starter motor problems (update) help needed, please
Post by: Uruk Hai on 24 April 2008, 13:50
Right, I've got a new solenoid and I want to be sure that I'm fitting all the conections correctly so if anyones got a close up picture of a starter motor and solenoind coreectly wired I would realy appreciate it. I dont want to cause any elelctrical problems by connecting it up worng  :undecided:

(http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/1522/image103pt3.jpg)

I know that the braided wire from the starter goes onto the shorter (green) stud and the two power cables go on the longer (red) stud but I'm unsure about where the spade end connecter goes, left or right ?

Please, please help, if I dont sort this today I'm stuffed  :undecided: :embarassed:
Title: Re: Starter motor problems (update) help needed, please
Post by: Uruk Hai on 24 April 2008, 14:17
Realy, realy need your help here peeps  :undecided:
Title: Re: Starter motor problems (update) help needed, please
Post by: cняis on 24 April 2008, 15:17
Realy, realy need your help here peeps  :undecided:

just uploading some phone cam pics to photobucket, just got oil on my keyboard now  :huh:
Title: Re: Starter motor problems (update) help needed, please
Post by: cняis on 24 April 2008, 15:22
(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/crevice1984/IMAGE_008.jpg)

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/crevice1984/IMAGE_009.jpg)

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w167/crevice1984/IMAGE_010.jpg)

hope that helps.

wiring seems to go to the longer of the two bolts, which is above the shorter bolt when mounted on the starter.
Title: Re: Starter motor problems (update) help needed, please
Post by: Uruk Hai on 24 April 2008, 16:59
Job done (thank f@ck), as it turned out it was the solenoind so I've got the old girl up and running for 20 sheets which is a bonus as I thought I was looking at a new starter motor ! A big thanks to those who helped, offered to help and a huge thanks to you chris for going out of your way take and upload those photos, very much appreciated.  :smiley: :smiley:
Title: Re: Starter motor problems (update) SOTRED !!!!!
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 24 April 2008, 17:35
re the pas pulley are you sure you undid all the bolts? there are a few tricky ones to get to, one is hidden in the bracket that you get to from underneath!
Title: Re: Starter motor problems (update) SOTRED !!!!!
Post by: Uruk Hai on 24 April 2008, 22:37
I undid them all mate and after about half a pint of WD40 and a friendly chat with larry the lump hammer the pump was moving a treat  :wink:
Title: Re: Starter motor problems (update) help needed, please
Post by: cняis on 25 April 2008, 09:52
Job done (thank f@ck), as it turned out it was the solenoind so I've got the old girl up and running for 20 sheets which is a bonus as I thought I was looking at a new starter motor ! A big thanks to those who helped, offered to help and a huge thanks to you chris for going out of your way take and upload those photos, very much appreciated.  :smiley: :smiley:


you're welcome, about time i gave something back instead of asking questions all the time  :laugh: