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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: e21jason on 15 April 2008, 00:04
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Hi
I have just picked up a g60 from Germany to sell on behalf of my mate, he moved to Germany last year with work and picked up a G60 as his daily driver.
Last month he got a Job offer in the US so had to leave before he could sell the car, so I agreed to sell it for him I got it home this weekend but need to register it in the UK, which means I need a mph Speedo.
Can you tell me which one to use 140mph or 160mph
And were to get one quick
(I already I have worked out I need to rebuild the cluster as the G60 has the boost connection)
Thanks
Jason
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You absolutely do not need mph clocks for UK registration.
I *think* any GTI 8V/16V clocks will do.
Nice car BTW.
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how much you looking for?
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G60 has a boost connection on the back of the clocks? o er . i put my G60 engine into my 8v the other week and didnt see anything its currently hooked up to 8v Gti clocks... although i dont have the speedo drive cable and the revs dont show...
all in all not much point in having clocks at the moment lol
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You absolutely do not need mph clocks for UK registration.
Taken from .... http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roads/vehicles/vssafety/importsapproval/howtoimportyourvehicleperman4559?page=2
Imperial Speedometer
Great Britain uses imperial units for speed measurement. The law requires that speedometers must include a miles-per-hour display. Please note in particular that any modified display must be visible in daylight and in darkness.
Markings may be added to the existing speedometer provided they are:
* accurate;
* durable;
* can be seen clearly in daylight and when the instrument is lit during darkness.
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*shrugs* I'm wrong then (it's not the first time).
My post should have read:
In my experience you absolutely do not need mph clocks for UK registration.
You'd best take that piece of guidance to the DVLA in Bristol where I've registered a number of European vehicles with speedos in Kms and tell them they're doing it wrong, too.
It certainly won't fail an MOT with a speedo in Kms, in my experience.
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MPH clocks not needed on an import.
:nerd:
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-Golf-Mk2-GTI-16V-Dash-Clocks-Rare-160-Mph-Speedo_W0QQitemZ280217477653QQihZ018QQcategoryZ9889QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Hope this helps. :smiley:
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MPH clocks not needed on an import.
See, that's what I thought, turns out it's not true - see above.
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MPH clocks not needed on an import.
See, that's what I thought, turns out it's not true - see above.
No, you are right, you can use KPH clocks as long as they have MPH on the inside (which they do). See below.
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Hi Thanks for the reply
Acording to the DVLA I need MPH clocks to register the car (a letter from a garge to confirm the work was done along with headlights and a rear fog light)
The clocks do have the boost connection on the back so I was just wanting to swap the speedo face over, and my G60 clocks do not have the mph scale on the inside.
Thanks for the ebay link and if any body wants to buy the car it is edinburgh and I am looking for 3.5k
Jason
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Hmm, Interesting. As with most things, this is becoming more ambiguous the more you look into it.
From
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/BuyingAndSellingAVehicle/ImportingAndExportingAVehicle/DG_4022583
"As part of the registration process, DVLA will need to be sure that an imported used vehicle that is less than 10 years old meets both European Type Approval standards and UK Construction and Use and Road Vehicle Lighting legislation."
Which seems to mean it needs an SVA test
but in this PDF doc:-
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/BuyingAndSellingAVehicle/ImportingAndExportingAVehicle/DG_10028413?IdcService=GET_FILE&dID=100317&Rendition=Web
Linked from page:
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/BuyingAndSellingAVehicle/ImportingAndExportingAVehicle/DG_10028413
It states:
"That a speedometer has been fitted which is capable of indicating speed in both miles per hour and
kilometres per hour, either simultaneously, or by operation of a switch. The speedometer must be
marked up to the maximum speed of the vehicle, with graduations at 1, 2, 5, or 10mph, and with
values at intervals not exceeding 20mph"
Hmm. My car has KPH only. I am wondering if the MPH clocks only apply to cars under 10 years old?
MOT is another thing altogether of course, and mine passes with KPH clocks only.
:smiley:
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As I changed my view to be in my experience - I've not had any problems registering cars with kph only speedos. The DVLA have never even asked to see the vehicle - provided the German registration documents are in order they're not normally interested. That said I seem to recall there is a figure of 10% of imported vehicles that are physically checked at registration - this is when things like this would be pulled up and you'd have to sort them.
Thing is I suspect the people who they check are the young ones every time, which explains why I've not been bothered. It's almost harrassment, I tell you.
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just get a stick-on dial kit.. thats what i have in mine
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just get a stick-on dial kit.. thats what i have in mine
Were do you get stick on kits
Jason
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Mine were already on the car, but since it was imported by AwesomeGTI in manchester I reckon they're a safe bet for the kits.
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But make sure that you get the correct ones. 140mph or 160mph. The increments between the numbers will be closer together on the 160mph, than on the 140mph, therefore your speedo will read incorrectly if the wrong ones are fitted. :wink:
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You need to keep the G60 cluster, as as said its got a special vac unit on the back to cope with boost.
Easiest way round the problem is to buy another set of MK2 clocks, and swap the speedo into the G60 cluster. Much easier than stripping the speedo down to swap another face on it, and it doesn't matter what max speed speedo you get it'll read just fine :)
Early/late speedos will all work, but the mounting on the back for the voltage regulator is different so ideally you want one that matches your cluster.
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My Rallye was imported from Germany in 1998 and it's only got kph on the dials. That's not to say that it shouldn't have mph on the dials. Maybe mine was imported before they put his rule in place. :undecided:
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Hi
Sorted it by swapping in a 160mph speedo from a 2 plug gti dash, did no fancy swapign the face as the speed would be mph and the distance in KPH
Jason