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Title: roll cage group buy?
Post by: lowmk1 on 10 April 2008, 08:16
anyone fancy organising this? i really want one! yabe not a 6 point but maybe a half cage for the back

 :cool:
Title: Re: roll cage group buy?
Post by: Diamond Hell on 10 April 2008, 11:21
Well I need a 6 pointer for my G2 Syncro, but I'm only in if we're going for FIA-spec cages - no point unless they're 'proper'.

What are people thinking?  OMP or something?
Title: Re: roll cage group buy?
Post by: lewis1641 on 10 April 2008, 13:48
i am interested but financial matters may mean backing out so call me a maybe at the mo. i agree it needs to be propper though. stu mentioned custom cages if you have a look in the other thread
Title: Re: roll cage group buy?
Post by: Stu.750 on 10 April 2008, 14:08
Im Willing to Put some phone calls in an see what kind of discounts are available for a group buy

 But im only looking to get a proper FIA 6 point - The custom cages on that ive seen look superb value and from what ive read the build quality is second to none

http://www.customcages.co.uk/corekits.htm

Like Lewis though Finance is the sticking point - might have to be im a month 2 months time before im ready to take the hit

Also , what are we looking at Group buying , MK2 cages or a selection of different ones ?
Title: Re: roll cage group buy?
Post by: Paul86S2 on 10 April 2008, 16:01
Count me in, I would want a 6 point for a Mk 3.

OMP, Sparco, or the custon cages core kit would be fine with me.

Cheers

Paul
Title: Re: roll cage group buy?
Post by: lowmk1 on 10 April 2008, 17:00
So you can only get one if you order a 6 point? im all about weight saving now :wink: 6 points are heavy man!!! i may aswel put my interior back in!!!
Title: Re: roll cage group buy?
Post by: Paul86S2 on 10 April 2008, 19:39
So you can only get one if you order a 6 point? im all about weight saving now :wink: 6 points are heavy man!!! i may aswel put my interior back in!!!
The weight will pay for itself in stiffer chassis, better handling and faster lap times. Thats even without thinking of the safety aspect.

Paul
Title: Re: roll cage group buy?
Post by: Diamond Hell on 10 April 2008, 22:33
Quote
The weight will pay for itself in stiffer chassis, better handling and faster lap times. Thats even without thinking of the safety aspect.

Innit.

Some things have benefits that aren't immediately obvious.  Money spent on safety isn't really wasted.  Provided the cage is to a proper spec then it'll make a world of difference to the car and you can also use it as a base to add to (further fastenings to the shell etc).
Title: Re: roll cage group buy?
Post by: lowmk1 on 10 April 2008, 22:54
ok so my arm has been well and truely twisted to the point of breaking!! put me down for a 6 point!!!

 :grin:

does the roll cage really add stiffness to the shell, i thought it was purely saftey.
Title: Re: roll cage group buy?
Post by: Paul86S2 on 10 April 2008, 23:17
ok so my arm has been well and truely twisted to the point of breaking!! put me down for a 6 point!!!

 :grin:

does the roll cage really add stiffness to the shell, i thought it was purely saftey.
Yes, much better than a rear strut brace, it will stop most chassis flex, front to rear and sideways, obviously the more fixing points the stiffer, and welding them in will be stiffer than bolting.
The stiffer chassis performance will far outweigh the extra 20 to 30kgs.

Paul
Title: Re: roll cage group buy?
Post by: Stu.750 on 11 April 2008, 01:38
So ,  so Far we have got

Stu : mk2
lowmk1: mk2 (reading the project threads)
paul: mk3
Lewis:mk2

 Any people have any preferances , personally i like the look of the custom cages , they are a uk firm , little bit smaller than the others and have a contact number on there website so might be easier do deal with regarding somethig like this
Title: Re: roll cage group buy?
Post by: Diamond Hell on 11 April 2008, 08:53
How loud do I have to shout to get myself added to the list?!

Golf2 Syncro (shell's different)
Title: Re: roll cage group buy?
Post by: TRANTER on 11 April 2008, 12:16
me 2 ..............
Title: Re: roll cage group buy?
Post by: Paul86S2 on 11 April 2008, 14:07
YB Racing have said they can offer a discount for 5 plus cages. They supply the OMP bolt in type.

I have asked them for a delivered price.

Cheers

Paul
Title: Re: roll cage group buy?
Post by: Bootneck on 11 April 2008, 15:41
It might be worth speaking to Ken at Automanics,see what he'll do you on a group buy. His cages and all the stuff he fabricates are to an extremely high quality. www.automanics.com
Title: Re: roll cage group buy?
Post by: cняis on 11 April 2008, 16:15
im interested perhaps only as a maybe at the moment (finances, unsure of reliability of project car)

any idea on price?
Title: Re: roll cage group buy?
Post by: Diamond Hell on 11 April 2008, 20:47
I was already looking at YB Racing (they have Rallye cages on Fleabay).  Seem like a sound enough outfit at this distance, although I'd be interested to know delivery times on Syncro cages (as listed on the OMP website).
Title: Re: roll cage group buy?
Post by: Paul86S2 on 11 April 2008, 22:24
Should have some prices on Monday.

The OMP site lists the synchro and rallye cages as the same as the mk2 ones.

I don't know the difference in the body style if there is any.

Paul
Title: Re: roll cage group buy?
Post by: Stu.750 on 12 April 2008, 01:42
Stu : mk2
lowmk1: mk2 (reading the project threads)
paul: mk3
Lewis:mk2
Diamondhell: mk2 syncro
Chris: MK2
Tranter:MK2

i have heard of ill fitting issues with the OMP cages but this was on Clubgti
Title: Re: roll cage group buy?
Post by: cняis on 12 April 2008, 01:56
Stu : mk2
lowmk1: mk2 (reading the project threads)
paul: mk3
Lewis:mk2
Diamondhell: mk2 syncro
Chris: MK2
Tranter:MK2

i have heard of ill fitting issues with the OMP cages but this was on Clubgti

im very much a maybe as im not sure the project will be on the road this year yet...  :huh:
Title: Re: roll cage group buy?
Post by: Paul86S2 on 12 April 2008, 10:18
Stu : mk2
lowmk1: mk2 (reading the project threads)
paul: mk3
Lewis:mk2
Diamondhell: mk2 syncro
Chris: MK2
Tranter:MK2

i have heard of ill fitting issues with the OMP cages but this was on Clubgti

I would have thought that any "off the shelf" cage will have some fitting issues, most cars will be slightly different and the body shell stressed and twisted in different areas. The plus side of an off the shelf cage is less welding to get the cage into the car, floor plates and door bars, rather than a kit of parts that all require welding together like the custom cages core kits. All depends on what you want and whether you have to pay someone for the welding. I'm not decided which way to go yet.

im very much a maybe as im not sure the project will be on the road this year yet...  :huh:

Yes, no obligation, only trying to sort out prices so a decision can be made to go ahead or wait till a later date.

Is anyone contacting custom cages?

Cheers

Paul
Title: Re: roll cage group buy?
Post by: Diamond Hell on 12 April 2008, 18:54
I have no problems with welding out any issues with a supplied cage.....so long as the bars aren't too short!

I'll email Custom Cages on Monday to see what they have to say.
Title: Re: roll cage group buy?
Post by: Stu.750 on 12 April 2008, 19:54
Stu : mk2
lowmk1: mk2 (reading the project threads)
paul: mk3
Lewis:mk2
Diamondhell: mk2 syncro
Chris: MK2
Tranter:MK2

i have heard of ill fitting issues with the OMP cages but this was on Clubgti

I would have thought that any "off the shelf" cage will have some fitting issues, most cars will be slightly different and the body shell stressed and twisted in different areas. The plus side of an off the shelf cage is less welding to get the cage into the car, floor plates and door bars, rather than a kit of parts that all require welding together like the custom cages core kits. All depends on what you want and whether you have to pay someone for the welding. I'm not decided which way to go yet.

im very much a maybe as im not sure the project will be on the road this year yet...  :huh:

Yes, no obligation, only trying to sort out prices so a decision can be made to go ahead or wait till a later date.

Is anyone contacting custom cages?

Cheers

Paul

 Very true - no harm in seeing who can come up with the best deal , ideally FIA MSA approved as im off nuttering
Title: Re: roll cage group buy?
Post by: Paul86S2 on 15 April 2008, 17:53
Ok got some prices from YB racing today:

6 point bolt in cages with door bars that need welding in after installation, and single cross member in the rear.

Model AA/104P/154 To fit Mk2's (they say including the Synchro) 5+ Cages £321.45each plus 18.95 delivery
(Their ebay price is £394.95 plus 19.99 delivery)

Model AB/105P/156 To Fit Mk3's £300each plus 18.95 delivery
(Ebay price is £349.95 plus 19.99 delivery)

Delivery will be in the region of upto 6 weeks.

Cheers

Paul
Title: Re: roll cage group buy?
Post by: cняis on 17 April 2008, 16:52
Ok got some prices from YB racing today:

6 point bolt in cages with door bars that need welding in after installation, and single cross member in the rear.

Model AA/104P/154 To fit Mk2's (they say including the Synchro) 5+ Cages £321.45each plus 18.95 delivery
(Their ebay price is £394.95 plus 19.99 delivery)

Model AB/105P/156 To Fit Mk3's £300each plus 18.95 delivery
(Ebay price is £349.95 plus 19.99 delivery)

Delivery will be in the region of upto 6 weeks.

Cheers

Paul

is that inc vat?

where do you bolt the cages? do you need to drill the floorpan/chassis?
Title: Re: roll cage group buy?
Post by: Paul86S2 on 17 April 2008, 17:13
Yes including the dreaded VAT

As far as I know you need to weld stiffening plates to the floor etc then drill through plates and floor etc to bolt the cage in.

Cheers

Paul
Title: Re: roll cage group buy?
Post by: Stu.750 on 17 April 2008, 19:42
Ill try to get hold of custom cages , even without the discount they are cheaper than the OMP one

 ill email them see what they can do  :wink:
Title: Re: roll cage group buy?
Post by: mark3valver on 18 April 2008, 14:58
i would be interested too..... mk3 cheers
Title: Re: roll cage group buy?
Post by: lowmk1 on 19 April 2008, 15:58
£340 inc delivery is good isnt it? i've never looked into the price of them but that seams quite good, can we get a better price tho? :grin: :grin: :smiley:
Title: Re: roll cage group buy?
Post by: Stu.750 on 19 April 2008, 16:33
ill see what custom cages come back with , they are cheaper out the box plus it sounds daft but id much rather support a UK company
Title: Re: roll cage group buy?
Post by: VW_valver on 20 April 2008, 15:20
COUNT ME IN!  :grin:  I'll have a six pointer for my mk2!

Looking at the Custom Cages price list they are VERY cheap anyway so a further discount on the 258 quid they want for their 'Core Kit 6' would be spot on!  :smiley:

But yeah, add me to the list please! Funds are waiting!  :laugh:

Cheers,
Andy

*Quick edit* just noticed the list prices are excluding VAT so maybe put me down for a 'Core Kit 5' as I think the door bars would become annoying with everyday use.
Title: Re: roll cage group buy?
Post by: Stu.750 on 20 April 2008, 15:46
still with VAT they work out cheaper than the OMP cage
Title: Re: roll cage group buy?
Post by: Mew on 10 May 2008, 23:27
Fight!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/mk-2-golf-roll-cage-OMP-with-door-bars_W0QQitemZ220233697034QQihZ012QQcategoryZ9889QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/mk-2-golf-roll-cage-OMP-with-door-bars_W0QQitemZ220233697034QQihZ012QQcategoryZ9889QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
Title: Re: roll cage group buy?
Post by: major lucky on 01 January 2009, 23:00
RNJ Motorsport near northants are pretty good, you can get a full cage 6 point cage supplyed and fitted for around £600,

http://www.rnjmotorsport.co.uk/

price may come down if there was a few bookings,

here's a gander at his work on my car

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v723/ovalthemoon/dub001.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v723/ovalthemoon/DSC02527.jpg)
Title: Re: roll cage group buy?
Post by: VeeDubGTI16v on 02 January 2009, 14:16
COUNT ME IN!  :grin:  I'll have a six pointer for my mk2!

Looking at the Custom Cages price list they are VERY cheap anyway so a further discount on the 258 quid they want for their 'Core Kit 6' would be spot on!  :smiley:

But yeah, add me to the list please! Funds are waiting!  :laugh:

Cheers,
Andy

*Quick edit* just noticed the list prices are excluding VAT so maybe put me down for a 'Core Kit 5' as I think the door bars would become annoying with everyday use.

you got a link to the core kits? all i can find is their multipoint and club kits, which go up to a C4 @ £370
Title: Re: roll cage group buy?
Post by: zarnd on 02 January 2009, 15:31
is this still going ahead as i do need a cage  :smiley:

cheers
Title: Re: roll cage group buy?
Post by: gazpowells on 02 January 2009, 21:43
yeah if this is still going ahead i would be intrested, need a cage for a mk3  :smiley: 
Title: Re: roll cage group buy?
Post by: euro dave on 22 January 2009, 21:18
Rollcentre cages are also pretty good and could be cheaper.

I'd be interested to see prices on a half cage, do they customise at all?
Title: Re: roll cage group buy?
Post by: Sc0rian on 14 February 2009, 12:47
add me into this list.

I'm after a mk2 one  :smiley:
Title: Re: roll cage group buy?
Post by: Live in Hope on 01 March 2009, 23:38
is this still going ahead as i do need a cage  :smiley:

cheers

HI Alex,
Was just gonna send you a link to this thread on BMWland.

Dave (florida)