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Title: heres the dealio
Post by: russell17 on 07 April 2008, 09:31
im 18 and drive n insure a 1993 vr6, all by myself :grin: unfortuantly im working two part-time jobs (as well as a full-time college course) to pay for it all. im now seriously, seriously doubting the amount of monies im dribbling away on just owning the car, its really limiting everything else i do cos i just cant afford it. fuel bills are hideous.

so wot i want is either a martin-luther king style inspirational speech, to keep me workin on the vr6......

orrrrrrrr, reccomend something i could buy for around 1500, and insure for less. just give me some ideas of cars you reckon wud be cool as a cucumber. (a 1.8 passat i like at the murment!)
Title: Re: heres the dealio
Post by: boneybradley on 07 April 2008, 09:41
If you like the mk3 why not choose an 8v gti or if you want to go even slower a 1.8driver or se.... for £1500 you should get something really good. If you want something bigger the passat sounds good (they look good with big rims and a bit of smoothing) and for your money a 96-97 1.8 non turbo should be a good buy?
Title: Re: heres the dealio
Post by: Diamond Hell on 07 April 2008, 09:43
Sell it and get a TDI Golf3, or a Golf2 GTI 8V, or even a 16V.

Won't be quite as plush as your big, fat VR6, but will provide pretty much as much driving enjoyment.

Big cars like Vr6s are designed for proper grown up people with real full-time jobs who can afford the (stupidly high) running costs.

At 33 I'm not either stupid enough, or rich enough to run a VR6.
Title: Re: heres the dealio
Post by: russell17 on 07 April 2008, 09:47
At 33 I'm not either stupid enough, or rich enough to run a VR6.

bit nasty  :cry:
Title: Re: heres the dealio
Post by: eightyeightmph on 07 April 2008, 09:49
I'm 22 & as much as I'd love a VR I know, even in full time employment, I couldn't afford to run one. It's no means cheap, but my 16v is affordable & just as much fun as a VR!  :smiley:
Title: Re: heres the dealio
Post by: Diamond Hell on 07 April 2008, 10:29
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bit nasty

No, that's honesty.

I had a Subaru Forester Turbo for 2 months and sold it sharpish as I couldn't stomach 18-22mpg (more on principle, rather than because it reamed me dry).  I don't do a lot of miles, but there are big thrills to be had without blowing your earnings on petrol!

Despite making a nice noise the VR6 is a pretty lame engine.  A good performance motor should output 100bhp per litre.  On that basis you're missing about 100bhp.

Like the man says - go 16V (the insurance is still going to make your eyes water) - less consumption, almost as good noise.
Title: Re: heres the dealio
Post by: lewis1641 on 07 April 2008, 12:55
buy a golf diesel (not comon rail) and modify run on vegetable oil. i am on a mission!
Title: Re: heres the dealio
Post by: gibby on 07 April 2008, 13:50
Well done for keeping a VR6 on the road at that age. Tell us your buying budget etc and then we can point you in the right direction but my gut feeling is saying nice mk2 16v. :cool:
Title: Re: heres the dealio
Post by: Neaty on 07 April 2008, 16:06
at 18 on a VR6 the insurance must be astronomical!  :shocked:

You could, like people have said, go for an 8v or 16v GTI for the money but the insurance probably won't be that much cheaper for the 16v. If you opt for the 8v because of that, then be prepared to drive something a hell of a lot slower than the VR6.
Title: Re: heres the dealio
Post by: Chris-White on 07 April 2008, 16:13
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Despite making a nice noise the VR6 is a pretty lame engine.  A good performance motor should output 100bhp per litre.  On that basis you're missing about 100bhp.

Name any european N/A production engine under 3.0 litres, ''performance'' or otherwise that produces 100bhp per litre.   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: heres the dealio
Post by: mark3valver on 07 April 2008, 16:14
how much do you pay out of interest for your insurance?

I bought my MK3 16v at 18, my first years insurance was £2300 with TESCO's... can't imagine yours would be any cheaper if it is your own policy...

I would get a MK2 16v, insurance will cheaper due to age/insurance group car etc - they are much more fun than a VR6 and you can learn to work on it yourself which is always a good idea and you can get lovely one's for £1500.......
Title: Re: heres the dealio
Post by: DubFan on 07 April 2008, 16:34
I would vote for a Mk2 16v too, they're so much fun. I had a Mk3 16v and then got a Mk2 16v and the Mk2 felt much faster and responsive, a better drive IMHO.
But even if the insurance is cheaper on an older Golf, you'll still spend the money you save on mods and servicing. But at least your MPG should be better. I used to get about 40mpg in both the Mk2 and Mk3 16v on motorways.
Title: Re: heres the dealio
Post by: raferackstraw on 07 April 2008, 23:31
deffo get rid mate it sounds like you got an expensive millstone around ya neck

mk2 16v seems a good recommendation from the others  :wink:
Title: Re: heres the dealio
Post by: russell17 on 11 April 2008, 14:01
im payin bout 2400 quids to insure it on tpf&t. i wana spend around a grand on a new car (cos thts all i will get from the vr6 sale) and dont mind spendin up to 1500 on insurance. altho i must say, and none of you will like this, i am tempted to buy a sack of poo and get meself a bike! all the speed for much less pennies. sounds ideal
Title: Re: heres the dealio
Post by: Peel on 11 April 2008, 14:16
You should be pottering around in a 1.0 Corsa at your age  :wink:
Title: Re: heres the dealio
Post by: Neaty on 11 April 2008, 17:47
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Despite making a nice noise the VR6 is a pretty lame engine.  A good performance motor should output 100bhp per litre.  On that basis you're missing about 100bhp.

Name any european N/A production engine under 3.0 litres, ''performance'' or otherwise that produces 100bhp per litre.   :rolleyes:

yea of course, the 320BHP R32 of course.......no wait thats not right is it  :grin:
Title: Re: heres the dealio
Post by: hobbiniho on 11 April 2008, 18:15
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Despite making a nice noise the VR6 is a pretty lame engine.  A good performance motor should output 100bhp per litre.  On that basis you're missing about 100bhp.

Name any european N/A production engine under 3.0 litres, ''performance'' or otherwise that produces 100bhp per litre.   :rolleyes:

yea of course, the 320BHP R32 of course.......no wait thats not right is it  :grin:

the simple fact of the matter is there is none the closest thing is the 2 litre honda VTEC which i believe is around about 200 bhp  :nerd:
Title: Re: heres the dealio
Post by: Neaty on 11 April 2008, 18:17
which lack torque low down and its only when you rev the nuts of it, you see the rewards. Fun cars but not something I would want to drive everyday.
Title: Re: heres the dealio
Post by: krave on 11 April 2008, 18:21
Can i ask What your insurance is like, im currently 19 and have one, wondered whether there is cheaper insurance to be had.
Title: Re: heres the dealio
Post by: mark3valver on 12 April 2008, 08:40
im payin bout 2400 quids to insure it on tpf&t. i wana spend around a grand on a new car (cos thts all i will get from the vr6 sale) and dont mind spendin up to 1500 on insurance. altho i must say, and none of you will like this, i am tempted to buy a sack of poo and get meself a bike! all the speed for much less pennies. sounds ideal

good glad its not just me that spent a fortune to drive a performance car at an early age!!!!! I never regretted spending the money on insurance but I was earning enough to still be able to enjoy myself.... a mk2 16v is more fun than any mk3 and you will be paying less for the privilege - look in the for sale section of clubgti there is always nice, standard mk2's going on there for sensible money
Title: Re: heres the dealio
Post by: JC on 12 April 2008, 11:13
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thank fook I am old.  I love cheap insurance.  :laugh: