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Model specific boards => Golf mk3 => Topic started by: dragongreen16v on 13 April 2004, 19:54
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It's probably been mentioned before in the past but is it true that traction control is standard on the 16v? My car is on an R (98). What does it do, make the car handle better?
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yes.
its the same as on the vr6. its there to eliminate torque steer, it stops doing its thing over 25 mph.
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I've heard you can disable the traction control and make the car a little quicker! Is that right?
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i haven't heard that, it makes sense though.
mr '6 said something in another thread about rumours of a connector under the back seats. wonder if it'd affect the abs or not though since the two systems are linked.
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The black box under the back seat is the control unit for ABS/EDL. So i guess if you disconnect then you won't have any ABS either.
Anyone want to give it a go? I'll let you lot try it first :D
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^ thats what i'm doing :D
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Nice one, let me know what happens.
The only reason i haven't tried it is incase the Abs needs resetting. I'm not sure about this, should be ok though.
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no... i meant i'm letting everyone else try first :D
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I'm assuming that the 8v doesn't have it at all, even the 98 cabriolet.... since I can spin out / get pretty bad torque steer if I floor it at all - last weekend was fun - nearly 150lb/ft torque and no TC on wet roads!
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I still don't think my valver has TC!!! It just spins up if I give it some beans below 25mph whether it's moving or from a standing start. I checked to make sure my ABS works in case the previous owner had disconnected that plug and the ABS still works. I have to stop playing around to see if the TC works as my front tyres are getting quite bald now!!!
I think it may have been introduced to later models, Post 95 possibly.
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Yeah you have got it. I did the natural thing and lifted off the pedal as soon as the wheels spun, just keep your foot down and the ABS should kick in and correct it.
.......doesnt work too well in the wet tho.
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^ lol yes, not so good :)
i found it works well on slightly grimey roads, but on really wet roads it can't cope.
i have a 1993 brochure which covers the 8v and 16v and it says the 16v has it...
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Lol, if I keep my foot planted I just end up sitting in a cloud of tyre smoke!!! I'll keep experimenting! Need new tyres anyway, might as well make the most of it!
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From everything I've heard in the past, the 8v doesn't have it at all (I don't think even as an option) and on the 16V & VR6 TC is standard, regardless of which year.
WRT to disabling it to "go quicker", it only does it's stuff at <25mph, so it's not like the some of these "stability control" systems on BMW's and such where your high speed cornering is restricted because the brakes are applied gently on individual wheels to stop the back from sliding out too much. It might theoretically restrict your take off speed, but from the sounds of things it's not an especially pro-active system, so it's almost certainly doing you more favours than anything else...
What I'd be interested in though: if the car already has ABS, would it be possible to enable traction control by swappin gout the 8V ABS control with a 16V / VR6 control??
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The traction control deffo works at higher speeds than 25mph.
It does on mine, i got it to cut in about 35-40mph :D
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^ funny.. i thought i had one time as well (going uphill around a sharp bend in the wet..)
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Yeah the engine speed increase but nothing happens at the wheels, like clutch slip :D
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Sorry - my bad, just repeating misinformation....
If the car already has ABS, but NOT TC, would it be possible to enable traction control by swapping out the 2.0 8V ABS control with a 16V / VR6 control and effectively give yourself traction control?
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Not sure mate
I'll look into that one ;)
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Don't go to too much trouble on my account, but it would seem a sensible add-on for an 8V as soon at it's been tweaked, 'cos there's so much torque low-down, it's hard NOT to spin the wheels sometimes!