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Model specific boards => Golf mk1 => Topic started by: jamadz on 28 March 2008, 19:18
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hi all
ive had this problem and its just getting worse, basically the car is idling all over the place and when you put the gas down it moves but in a juddering kinda way,
The girlfriend is realy embarressed with it and it doesnt do your neck any good lol
ive checked it over and changed the fuel filter thinking things could be getting blocked up.
Ive taken it to a local garage (with only £50 in my back pocket i hope it wont be to expensive)
any ideas what it could be, just incase the garage just fiddle with the metreing unit and tell me they spent loads on it lol
cheers all
adz
PS its crap without a car, taxi tonight :(
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Could be a number of things. I'm thinking rusty filler neck. If so it will be more than £50 but it might be something simple too like a dodgy earth or dizzy cap. This has been asked a few times so maybe try a search.
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nah the filler neck and tank are new and no rust
changed the dizzy cap and arm
changed the fuel filter
garage are checking coils or something
i think its something electrical but if anyone has any plans , shout!
no car for the weekend
so glad gt5 is out :)
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does the car run on a points ignition system as it could be your points and condensor easy fix just a couple of quid.
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what car is it?
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Hi All thanks for the help so far
the car is a 1981 mk1 golf gti 1.6 8valve fuel inj
The car has been in the garage 2 weeks
the garage have fitted
a reconditioned distibuter
a new ignition amplifier
a new coil
i am sure its electronic ignition
the garage can not solve this one and i have a bill so far for £320 thats just in labour as i supplied the parts
I think i need someone who knows this engine system and who is located in bristol
is there anything i can try
would this be anything to do with the warmup regulator
Many thanks
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kangarooing could be caused by a few things so its hard to tell without actually lookin.........
have you checked the inlet manifold gasket as if this is blown it will lean off your mixture and could cause similar symptons.
you say your sure your ignition system is electronic i don't really know your engines so does it have one of these?
(http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/6411/dizzyqj2.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
its a condensor on the outside of the dizzy the bit thats kind of hidden is a little cylinder its attached to a set of contact breaker points inside the dizzy you'll know if you have points if you just look inside the dizzy there will be a little cam in the middle and the points will rest on this and when the engine turns they open and close creating the spark. simple thing to check if its like this if it is you should change your points and codensor only a couple of quid but the gap on the points has to be a certain size. i might be being a dumb ass and it is an electronic ignition but worth a look can't hurt.
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thanks for the response
spoke to the garage today its definatly a electronic ignition
wonder how much i can pick up a warm up regulator?
if anyone does know anyone that knows these ebgines or has old testing equiptment
Please let me know
Thanks :)
chin up adz lol
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try posting a thread on www.vwgolfmk1.org.uk plenty of people on there running the same engine as you so they might have some more info?
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Hi
I have the same problem with mine, I've had a dozen responses from mechanics from petrol tank fuel pumps, ht leads, fuel neck pipe, dizzy cap, exaust, etc etc if you come up with a result please let me know.
All the best
kangaroo2
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Oh no not 2 of us
Personally i think its blocked injectors :(
any way ive purchased a warm up regulator and the garage are fitting it tonight.
i will keep this post up to date, incase anyone else has the same problem.
Does yours do it when cold?
cheers
Kangaroo1
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Ok fitted new warm up regulator
Seems a little better
The garage have played about with the metreing unit, when adjusting the problem gets worse,
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bought another metering unit
awaiting for it to be fitted,
I am really stuck on what to do as the garage hasnt got a clue
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mine kangarooed when the mixture was far too lean, worth a look. Get some brass injectors off ebay, you can get em for just over £50 a set, usually listed under mercedes, but recently the seller has been advertising em for MK1s as well :)
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Hi all
as far as the garage are aware the second hand warm up regulator doesnt work
trying to source a new warm up regulator - does anyone know where i can find one of these?
Cheers
adz
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ok there is no such thing as a new warm up regulator
Im stuck,
any one need any bits off a very tidy mk1 gti (just dont ask for a warm up regulator lol)
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get one off a MK2 16v, good upgrade!
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cool
well ive tried to get one of those new, but looks like its not possible
Im going to try and get a good un off a mk2 and try that.
The garage have tried everything and are basically telling me to scrap it :(
like most of us ill be gutted if that has to happen
adz
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dont give up! a mk2 8v/16v throttle body is a good upgrade along with the wur as well, some say audi units work too but they're the same size as mk2. i guess it depends which has the throttle linkage in the best place for the mk1 really!
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Ok we have tried 4 different warm up regulators stil the same problem
any one know how to check the pressure on the fuel pump
the car starts fine and once its got a bit warm has an irratic idle
my mechanic is lost and has a headache from it lol
well its been strange not having a car but its nice to b driven around and picked up, walking to work isnt so good
well if there is anyone in bristol who can take a look or anyone that can help let me know :)
adz
ps the rear brake is leaking fluid doh
wonder what will be next
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Ok ive had a new rear wheel cyclinder put on so i can now brake!
The car is now at home as leaving it with the garage cost to much money
Is there anything i should start checking to solve this problem
Ive told my garage all of the above
Adam
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does anyone know a way of cleaning the fuel tank?
do you need to take the tank out or use the access uner passenger seats?
also any ideas on checking fuel pressure?
cheers
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to do it properly you gotta taker the tank out, but if its only got rust in it you can drop a magnet on a length of string in there and drive about for a week or so, pull it out and clean all the crud off. repeat till it stops picking up rust!
If there is any rust in the tank chances are your fuel lines are all clogged up, your fuel pump is buggered and possibly the entire fuel system needs changing! If you pull the fuel pump off, some have an inline mesh filter on the inlet side, if so you can try cleaning this out. make sure you got something to block the pipe on the side of the tank after you pull it off the pump tho, or it'll drain very quickly :grin:
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fuel pump or pump relay. (I have the same year/spec-ish)
Yes electronic ignition
The fuel pump relay is sh1t, (the one with a fuse in it) the fuse box can burn out or the wiring from the fuse box to the pump can go, get them to check that, the wiring colour is red/yellow, if memory serves me correctly (but it may be white and red) any way it comes outa the fuse box and goes through a Y spade terminal.
The relay powers the pump when the ignition is first turned on, then after the cranking it runs the pump.
The pump is located under the car, just in front of the o/s/f wheel, check the connections have not become crappy.
There is no lift pump in the tank for this model.
Make sure the car has not been run low on juice, as the metering head gets the right arse.
Flow check the injectors, get a jam jar, drill a 10mm hole in the lid, lever out 1 injector at a time, put in jam jar, turn on inigition (DO NOT START IT), messure the amount in the jar, repeat for all injectors.
Don't smoke, do it when the engines hot or when you've had a strong curry, keep a fire extinguisher handy, if you burn it, it will suck.
(I have loads of spare bits should you want to borrow/buy them, no metering head, but injectors and injector pipes.)
(Phuqing CARS!!!)
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Cheers kraM
i shall be doing the above on saturday and will let you know how i get on
last weekend i thought id have a gander in the tank, emptied it out, the pipe going to the fuel pump was loose on the tank end, had to replace those jubilee clips.
all seems ok very little sign of rust etc, but i guess what the eye cant see is harming the car (Maybe)
ive had a few friends look over it, lots of different answers and im actually starting to learn something
well until i started listening to myself and filled up the tank and added red x to it, i cant see it doing anythink really.
If i find out the injectors etc are bust ill be in contact kraM, thanks for your help
adz
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Hi all,
spent june, july, and august trying to fix the car, felt like i had tried everything with a little help from friends.
everyone gave up as it was giving them headaches
so it went into another garage
its been in their 2 months,
if anyone ever reads this thread and knows what the answer is, please post
Thanks :)