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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: rennsport on 13 March 2008, 12:44
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chaps,
i'm taking delivery of a new edition 30 GTI soon (hopefully next week) and was thinking of potential upgrades.
i understand from an article i read recently that the engine is in a fairly low state of tune and capable of much more. now that potential would be wrong to ignore....
i was considering the 'bluefin' from superchips - is there anyone who posts here who could share their experiences with this option ?
also i presume it's best to let the car bed-in before upgrading ?
many thanks in advance.
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....Firstly A Warm Welcome to the forum :smiley:.
Others with Ed30's will answer you better, but I would strongly advise waiting a few thousand miles for not only the engine to loosen up but so that IF there are any warranty issues you are not snookered by a remap. Most established VAG tuners will privately advise the same.
A switchable remap is a good idea because you can then switch to stock for VW ECU updates etc.
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theres so much info on this forum about remaps. theres a new topic everyday :tongue:
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Hi and welcome to the forum :cool:
I agree with RR, it is best to wait a few thousand miles before going for a remap. I have an APR switchable remap. I find this easier than messing about with a handheld unit which takes more than five minutes to switch each time and has to be plugged into the OBDII diagnostic port. The APR is switchable through the cruise control stalk and simply takes a few seconds to swap over each time you do it. Also with the Superchips Bluefin (switchable) system you have to mess about downloading it off the internet in the first place. The standard and power maps for Bluefin are "paired" so that you cannot simply go out and remap every GTI you want to. This has a downside - when you take your car in for a service and they do an upload of an updated map to your car (which they do regularly) it "unpairs" the maps for the Bluefin and then you have to mess about all over again on the internet and explain to them how the maps have become "unpaired". The APR maps aren't paired and are stored separately - this has the benefit that you can swap the car back to the standard map before a service and let VW do the update and then after switch back to the performance map, which remains unaffected. :nerd:
You can also have more than one extra map fitted with the APR system too, so you can have a valet mode (turns down the power so that you can lend it to a learner), a high octane map (performance map)
and even an immobilisation mode :cool:
Hope this helps :smiley:
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thats very helpful info - i will hold fire until the car is run-in and then look into the APR switchable remap that sounds perfect.
and thanks for the welcome too.
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Hi mate, I have it on my Edition 30, very pleased with it, check this extensive link where we discussed in detail
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=59703.0
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welcome to the forum, i have a bluefin and am really pleased with it, it makes more difference than you would think. i know there are people that dont rate superchips, but i have nothing but good things to say about them, really helpful. you can also revert back to standard with bluefin and also check for fault codes and use it for immobilising your car if you are going to leave it for a while. i'm sure that the apr maps are also very good, but i've only had bluefin so cant comment on them, although i would think that performance is similar, we'll hopefully find out if the bruntingthorpe days comes off, might see you there.
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welcome to the forum, i have a bluefin and am really pleased with it, it makes more difference than you would think. i know there are people that dont rate superchips, but i have nothing but good things to say about them, really helpful. you can also revert back to standard with bluefin and also check for fault codes and use it for immobilising your car if you are going to leave it for a while. i'm sure that the apr maps are also very good, but i've only had bluefin so cant comment on them, although i would think that performance is similar, we'll hopefully find out if the bruntingthorpe days comes off, might see you there.
sunnylun, did you get any discount on your bluefin by mentioning this forum?
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i did get 10% discount by just asking. i'm sure a mention of this forum would help tho. the other bonus is if you buy another vw group car when you have had your fill of your ed 30, superchips will reset your bluefin for £350, so you get a cheap remap next time :smug:
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If I'm not mistaken, the superchips system actually downloads the true orignial map to the handset, so when you go back to standard it is the original factory map being put back. Superchips also resets the flash counter, so that there is no record of the changes it makes to the map.
The APR on the other hand loads up a generic map that is similar to the standard VAG map, but can be spotted if the ECU is sent back for inspection.
A friend of mine had his ECU sent back to Germany for inspection because they though he had a remap which caused a problem with the car. Luckily, it wasnt remapped, and he got sorted in the end, but it made me cautious.
So for me, superchips is a safer option while the car is under warranty. And the time taken to change programs isn't likely to be an issue for me, as I am sure once the remap is on it will stay on, unless the car is going to a stealer for service.
Feel free to correct me if I am wrong here.
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I have Giac, hand held flasher plugs into obd port, press 'pump' button - 1 flash done, press 'stock' button - 1 flash done, can even tell whats currently active.doesnt show up on flash counter either, can store upto 5 settings, pump,race,valet,kill,stock, and 2 secret buttons :smug: got it done round about 2k mark.
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excellent info - once the car is physical and run in i shall be weighing up the options and shall let u know what i go for. not being an IT bod likely it will be the one thats easiest to upload...
as an aside, what a good forum this is. certainly a lot more active than any of the porsche forums that i use/contribute to.
many thanks for everyones input.
oliver