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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: hotrod on 12 March 2008, 12:39
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Hi gang,
Picked up ED30 yesterday and I’m loving it!
Quick question. Do I run it in or just drive normally??
I’ve owned quite a few motorcycles and cars and there seems to be two schools of thought. The first be reasonably gentle with it, vary the load on the engine and don’t hammer it. The other is to drive it normally (not redlining it), and gradually increase the rev range upwards. I’ve always been used to the gentle approach, however both the head service guy and the salesman advised to just drive it normally. There seems to be some evidence that a normally run engine produces more power than one which has been moly-cuddled.
Your thoughts, my learned friends!
Hotrod :smiley:
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I just drove mine normally, I did'nt rag it or anything but I wasn't a fairy. :smiley:
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Thats exactly the view of the dealer manager who sold me my 08 gti.... So I,m just driving normal,not mad but deffo not running it in.
New dog,New tricks
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My dad used to get new cars every 2 years (sales rep!!!) and he used to drive em hard fromthe word go but only red line them after 1,000. Never had any problems even with the deisels. In fact his last bora TDI was treated like this and even when it went back to the lease company with 240,000 miles on the clock it didn't smoke at all.
Nick
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....Yes, there are two opposing opinions - Rag It vs Granny It.
I think that if you plan to keep the car longer term, I would be inclined to follow the very specific guidelines written in the VW handbook. My logic is: Why would VW bother to write it if it wasn't advisable?
Therefore, Granny It but do so progressively!
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Mate all engines these days are bench run before going into a car.
As oppossed to when i was a lad and you could not go over like 3000 revs
My own personnal opinion would say that although the engine has done some miles on a bench it has not had the throttle really opened up.
So you can drive the car quite normally, but i would wait before you lash mary hell out of her.
Secondly to this, sports engines are designed to be driven, so when ready.
Drive the BIATCH, and drive her hard.
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run it in enthusiastically :smiley:
TT has a guide on here somewhere.
For me dont baby it too much , or place excessive load at low rpm. (i.e attempt 6th gear 1500 rpm full throttle)
As the miles increase extend it up the revs under reasonable load.
I have ran cars in too gently in the past , just enjoy it.
The bedding in process is as much for other components going through heat cycles as well as well the engine (brakes etc)
and keep a regular eye on the oil (at least every 200 miles during running in)
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....Many new GTI owners have reported relatively heavy oil consumption during the first few thousand miles. I certainly did but it's all settled down. I change my oil every 10,000 miles, mainly because my car is performance modded.
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Mate all engines these days are bench run before going into a car.
As oppossed to when i was a lad and you could not go over like 3000 revs
My own personnal opinion would say that although the engine has done some miles on a bench it has not had the throttle really opened up.
So you can drive the car quite normally, but i would wait before you lash mary hell out of her.
Secondly to this, sports engines are designed to be driven, so when ready.
Drive the BIATCH, and drive her hard.
Legend :cool:
Loving the style. Just the way we treat our cars.
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Not the same engine I know but a chap here had a brand new passat tdi, and was given the usual 'its run in on the bench mate' by vw. 3 months later he had to have a new engine, the block had cracked somewhere in the oilways and was p!ssing oil into the water. This time he was given proper instructions on running it in carefully by the same vw tech.
You've just blown a wedge of hard-earned, is it worth the risk when you can just be nice to it for a couple of thousand miles?
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I make sure my car is warmed up properly and then open her up.
She's now done 500 miles since Friday and it's been a fair mix of hard and easy runs.
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i pick up mine tomorrow and i'm thinking about the whole running in malarky.
the sales person (who's a girl, therefore who's advice on cars should be taken with a pinch of salt :wink:) said not to take it over 100kph for the first 1000 kms.
and then i've read the 'rag it straight out of the box' advice..... i'm sure theres a sensible middle ground. Its just a lot of wonga, so you dont want to feck it up.
So i'm planning on driving it pretty normal, maybe a tad on the granny side for a 1000kms.
touch wood, etc.
karl
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i pick up mine tomorrow and i'm thinking about the whole running in malarky.
the sales person (who's a girl, therefore who's advice on cars should be taken with a pinch of salt :wink:) said not to take it over 100kph for the first 1000 kms.
....Oie !!!! :angry: - There are plenty girlies who are into cars and know just as much and sometimes more than blokes. :rolleyes:
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i know... hence the :wink:
to be honest, she'd answered all my questions and certainly knew her stuff... and far better than some of the sales guys from the other manufacturers.
anyways, back to hotrods running in... sorry for the hijack.
k
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....Are there still plenty of pretty Oriental beauties working in Dubai? :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: - Five Star Drool 'n Dribbles :evil:
[No apologies for this thread hijack!]
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into the asian orient are you robin :grin: :grin: :grin:
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into the asian orient are you robin :grin: :grin: :grin:
....What!? Me!??
My first serious girlfriend was a Malay from Singapore. And then there was a half-Indian half Japanese, then a Thai, then a Venezuelan, but I married an English girl and later divorced. I should have stuck to the Orientals!
(http://www.mm52.com/chineseidols/xiaoyaxuan/xiaoyaxuan_009.jpg)
I could get into trouble for this! :evil:
What are we running in? Ah yes, an Ed30! Take it easy for the first 1,000 miles and you'll be rewarded later (applies to the Oriental girlies too!)
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My mat ealso has "Yellow fever" after he worked in HK for 2 years.
Anyhoo back to running in.
THRASH It!
Nick
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I didn't go above 4k revs until I got to 1,000 miles. Not on anybodys advice, just my own personal preference really.
I will add though that once it had done 1,000 miles it seemed to feel loads quicker! :cool:
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Well all I would say is that you should not thrash it until you have her properly warmed up... think of it as 4play..
But after that just give her some! I did a nice easy 140 on the second day I had her... I just think it makes her faster!! She gags for all the time now :grin: :grin:
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Personally i think the most important things are:
Wait until it's fully up to temperature before giving it any sort of load or revs and by that i dont just mean when the water temp is in the middle, wait a bit longer to give the oil a chance to warm through.
Dont labour the car in a high gear up hill etc, better to use a lower gear and use the revs dont worry about setting an artificial rev limit this wont do anything to aid running in, if anything it may hinder it.
Try to use engine braking as this helps to draw a vacumn in the cylinders which encourages oil to be drawn off the bores along with any metal particals.
It wont do the engine any harm to give it the occasional blast through the gears, even if this results in brief use of full throttle, you need this to get the rings to bed in properly which is the most important part of a new engine. The bearings, journals and everything else for that matter are made to such accurate tolerances now you dont need to worry about bedding them in, 20 years ago maybe when you could have high spots etc due to pi$$ poor machining and quality control. I just drove mine normally from the day i picked it up, i didnt rag the ar$e off it but i didnt give a second thought to letting it rev to 5 or 6k
Basically just drive the thing, use what ever amount of throttle feels right for what your doing, use what ever revs you like, ok dont bounch it off the rev limiter but dont drive it like there's a block of wood under the throttle either.
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The biggest worry for me was not realising the tyres and brakes needed running in... there was gonna be one seriously messy R32/ford escort in my first week of ownership!
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The biggest worry for me was not realising the tyres and brakes needed running in... there was gonna be one seriously messy R32/ford escort in my first week of ownership!
Doesnt sound good!..Might need to make sure i remember that :grin:...Although i would think every one who is into their motors would know that brakes need bedding in...and i did read in the tyre test of EVO that its always best to get the Fresh tyres...the ones that havent been sitting in the shop for too long....they are easier to run in :smiley:
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Try to use engine braking as this helps to draw a vacumn in the cylinders which encourages oil to be drawn off the bores along with any metal particles.
....I've now done 45,000 miles and my natural style of driving is to always use the gears for engine braking (over 40 years driving). I guess the info you've posted also applies beyond the running in period?
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Hi guys,
All sound advice. My gut instinct is to drive normally (once fully-warmed up), with varied revs and loads on the engine. Not laboured, not thrashed.
Good points about the tyres and brakes though!
I’m really loving my car, it really wants to get up and go... certainly not a car to be lazy in... starting to enjoy driving again!
Cheers buddies... Hotrod.