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Title: audi daylamps
Post by: joesgti on 03 March 2008, 16:41
just looked at that kit that steve posted and had me thinking again about some daylamps like in the R8. anyways just had a quick scan on fleebay and found these. what are peoples opinion on these, i think they would look very very cool but would have to be on a modded car not std. maybe suite a car like RR's. i might look into getting these once i have full OSIR kit :evil:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-AUDI-S6-V10-LED-DAY-DRIVING-LIGHTS-A3-A4-A6-A8-Q7_W0QQitemZ170194623487QQihZ007QQcategoryZ28645QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: Manu_R32 on 03 March 2008, 16:50
I like them and i really like how they look on the R32. Only problem is my car is going to be new and VW have already told me they wont do it for me and it will void warranty so....i dont think i would do it right now  :sad:
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: RedRobin on 03 March 2008, 16:56
....I've been seriously wanting some Daylight Running Lights (DRL's) as they are correctly called, since my last trip down the German autobahns. They are a very effective safety feature as you can better judge the distance of that fast approaching car in your rear view mirror without getting blinded even in bright sunlight.

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/2_AudiA5_mirror.jpg)

Not the best pic but at over 120 mph (GPS) it ain't that easy!

I like this American GTI's DRL's but I haven't managed to find out how they were fitted.

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/DRL_GTI.jpg)
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: Manu_R32 on 03 March 2008, 17:04
There is a MASSIVE very detailed how to on www.r32-club.de

http://www.r32-club.de/showthread.php?t=9134

I am sooo tempted cause i think it looks so nice but just the whole thing of the warranty.....:(

(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l304/clio_gib/R32LED.jpg)
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: SteveS on 03 March 2008, 17:06

I like this American GTI's DRL's but I haven't managed to find out how they were fitted.

(http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b308/RedRobin_05/DRL_GTI.jpg)


now i think i do like that!
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: joesgti on 03 March 2008, 17:09
^^^ seen that pic before and that car is FAT :laugh:

i like the porsche cup alloys on it aswell. dont like the eyebrows thow :sick:
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: Manu_R32 on 03 March 2008, 17:11
Joe...why dont u get it done?? think about how cool it will be  :grin:
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: joesgti on 03 March 2008, 17:23
grrrrrrrrrrr manu stop it!!!! ive already orderd german plates and osir boost gauge this week :angry: im turning into a young red robin with all these mods i have planned :grin: :grin: :grin: il be on xbox in 10 mins if you fancy a game on pgr4 i cant be @rsed with the gym :rolleyes:
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: SteveS on 03 March 2008, 17:29
i could b interested in those lights if anyone knew how you install on the mk5 gti :D
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: No Golf Clubs at all on 03 March 2008, 17:42
would this be road legal in the UK?...I ask due to the fact that previously i was stopped by an over zealous police officer stating that unless it was foggy,...then it was illegal to use the front fog lamps...i used them cos i think it looked cool... :cool:

So, would the local plod know any different? Or more likely would he get his monthly quota of tickets and telling offs by mistaking these cool lights for front fogs?  :undecided:
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: RedRobin on 03 March 2008, 18:03
So, would the local plod know any different? Or more likely would he get his monthly quota of tickets and telling offs by mistaking these cool lights for front fogs?  :undecided:

....LED DRL's are NOT foglights. European law is currently going through so that ALL new cars after a certain date will have DRL's as mandatory.

Daylight Running Lights are not the same as Fog Lights (use of which is illegal unless poor visibility). :cool:
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: TeddyKGB on 03 March 2008, 19:11
....LED DRL's are NOT foglights. European law is currently going through so that ALL new cars after a certain date will have DRL's as mandatory.

About 18 months ago I responded to a consultation document issued by the EU on the permanent use of dipped headlights.

95% of the UK responses were against the idea even including the Government's response.

Reasons given were increased fuel consumption and carbon dioxide emissions.

Motor cyclists were very opposed as headlights are one of their main unique means of indicating their presence.

Lo and behold earlier in February the Road Safety Minister , a Jim Fitzpatrick, announced that from 2011 all new vehicles will have to be fitted with dedicated daylight running lights as required by the EU directive now issued.

Consultation clearly was a waste of time and our Parliament is yet again shown to be impotent in the face of the European Super State.
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: RedRobin on 03 March 2008, 19:24
....LED DRL's are NOT foglights. European law is currently going through so that ALL new cars after a certain date will have DRL's as mandatory.

About 18 months ago I responded to a consultation document issued by the EU on the permanent use of dipped headlights.

95% of the UK responses were against the idea even including the Government's response.

Reasons given were increased fuel consumption and carbon dioxide emissions.

Motor cyclists were very opposed as headlights are one of their main unique means of indicating their presence.

Lo and behold earlier in February the Road Safety Minister , a Jim Fitzpatrick, announced that from 2011 all new vehicles will have to be fitted with dedicated daylight running lights as required by the EU directive now issued.

Consultation clearly was a waste of time and our Parliament is yet again shown to be impotent in the face of the European Super State.

....I think you'll find that LED DRL's will be mandatory and NOT the use of dipped headlights. Motorbike headlights will still be much stronger and so more visible than DRL's.
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: Hurdy on 03 March 2008, 19:39
LED DRL's would only use a fraction of the dipped headlight power anyway :smiley:
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: Manu_R32 on 03 March 2008, 19:40
My query is! How do the DRL's work? What switch do u need to turn to put htem on and stuff....? I got told when u put ur main headlights on, they will turn off and when ur headlights are turned off, the DRL's will turn on??  :huh:
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: TeddyKGB on 03 March 2008, 20:21
My query is! How do the DRL's work? What switch do u need to turn to put htem on and stuff....? I got told when u put ur main headlights on, they will turn off and when ur headlights are turned off, the DRL's will turn on??  :huh:

my guess it would be a bit like them volvo's ie there is no switch they are just on all teh time! :shocked:
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: k4ith on 03 March 2008, 21:44
NO people the grey gti and those R32's have been massacared, they are  :sick:.
very camp styling.If anything the law should be changed to ban them as they are gross.
each to their own, but if i saw that grey gti I'd piss myself laughin.
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: Manu_R32 on 03 March 2008, 22:22
NO people the grey gti and those R32's have been massacared, they are  :sick:.
very camp styling.If anything the law should be changed to ban them as they are gross.
each to their own, but if i saw that grey gti I'd piss myself laughin.

If Phil and a few others who own a grey GTI were to see that i dont think they would be too happy....sometimes i feel some views and opinions are just best kept towards myself.

Oh and the DRL's are awesome!
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: maxamus on 04 March 2008, 00:01
It doesnt look good on the GTI, Suits the R32 more because of its bottom grills.
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: joesgti on 04 March 2008, 09:47
i think it looks stunning and dont care what others think. im sure if they were that gross then top designers from audi would be out of a job now. etto :smiley:
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: AlanD on 04 March 2008, 09:56
i used them cos i think it looked cool... :cool:

No offence, Im a nice guy really, but people that use fog lights because its "cool" when its not foggy need executing onsite !!!!!
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: joesgti on 04 March 2008, 10:04
i used them cos i think it looked cool... :cool:

No offence, Im a nice guy really, but people that use fog lights because its "cool" when its not foggy need executing onsite !!!!!

 :grin: :grin: alan since when have you been a nice guy :huh: :laugh:
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: AlanD on 04 March 2008, 10:09
Oh no, there on to me !  :cool:
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: LaserBlue on 04 March 2008, 10:31
if you guys look on the golfmkv fourum many members have already done this mod

there is a diy on there aswell

they connected it to the side markings which we dont have on our euro gtis, i guess we could connect it to the fog lamps?

you need the GT lower grilles and about half inch cut out for the best fit.

http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29913&highlight=audi+led

Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: Manu_R32 on 04 March 2008, 10:37
Looks really nice on the GTI but it seems to me as a bit of the clash as the two different grills have different designs....but i guess there are ways to work around this!  :smiley:
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: joesgti on 04 March 2008, 10:49
looks better with the honeycomb grills, dont like the gt slats at the honeycomb clash, there must be a better way of doing it than this!!
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: RedRobin on 04 March 2008, 10:52
if you guys look on the golfmkv fourum many members have already done this mod

there is a diy on there aswell

they connected it to the side markings which we dont have on our euro gtis, i guess we could connect it to the fog lamps?

you need the GT lower grilles and about half inch cut out for the best fit.

http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29913&highlight=audi+led



....As I posted on that forum, I don't want to lose the honeycombe style of the lower grilles. That Grey owner has done it, so it obviously is possible.

I think I might print off that pic of the Grey GTI and have a chat with my body guy - He loves a challenge!
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: LaserBlue on 04 March 2008, 11:00
im guessing in a few years time GTI owners are gonna rice out the GTI era like they did with the mk4 :(

the mk5 is the gti reborn again, why mess with it putting aftermarket mods like this on it?

ive seen some real horrid mods b4 but this has got to be the worse ive seen.. i mean come on guys these kinda lights are what you see on big sedans and jeeps not a sporty hatchback, the lights are to big to go in preportion with the front of gti.

im only 22 myself and think this is a boy racer mod, they look kool on audis and should stay on audis.

if any of you are going to the GTI show this sunday take some photos of a mk5 with the leds (if there is any with em ;)
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: joesgti on 04 March 2008, 11:25
if you dont like modding your car then dont, nobody is asking you to. others enjoy putting time and money into their car to get benafits that they will enjoy. as for the ricer comment nobody is sticking 2 fast 2 furious jap crap to their car, also which 4x4 SUV's have these lights as standard except the audi?? i havnt seen any.   :smiley:
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: RedRobin on 04 March 2008, 11:32
im guessing in a few years time GTI owners are gonna rice out the GTI era like they did with the mk4 :(

the mk5 is the gti reborn again, why mess with it putting aftermarket mods like this on it?

ive seen some real horrid mods b4 but this has got to be the worse ive seen.. i mean come on guys these kinda lights are what you see on big sedans and jeeps not a sporty hatchback, the lights are to big to go in preportion with the front of gti.

im only 22 myself and think this is a boy racer mod, they look kool on audis and should stay on audis.

if any of you are going to the GTI show this sunday take some photos of a mk5 with the leds (if there is any with em ;)


....Fair enough, and I DO respect your opinion :cool:.

However, if you've driven much on very fast unrestricted roads in Europe and experienced the very obvious safety benefits of DRL's, you might revise your opinion. The mandatory DRL law coming in 2011 is for perceived safety reasons. :smiley:

I'd rather be seeing cars travelling faster than mine, in either direction, with DRL's than dipped heads - Much less blinding and much easier to more accurately gauge their distance and speed of approach etc.

Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: LaserBlue on 04 March 2008, 11:34
i was just saying that them kinda lights ud expect to see on a big suv or something..

there all the rage in us and euro..

its a forum for ppl to give there opinion on things, just gave mine thats all.

everybodys opinion on whats rice or not is dif,

yeah redrobbin i guess your right from a safety point of view.. i came across a website last week with ppl wanting to ban these day time lights lol

why is it illeagle to have fogs on but not daytime lights?
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: AlanD on 04 March 2008, 11:36
For what its worth I think they look quiet nice however I don't think if I had a MKV id go ahead with it.
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: RedRobin on 04 March 2008, 11:44

if any of you are going to the GTI show this sunday take some photos of a mk5 with the leds (if there is any with em ;)

.... :shocked: Which show? Where?
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: maxamus on 04 March 2008, 12:18
it does not suit the GTI honeycomb foggy surrounds. Looks better with the GT fog light surround because it is the vertical design which goes with the design of the lights. The reason why they look good on teh R32 is because it has no fog-lights and open vertical grills. I dont think it looks nice when you have foggys aswell.

And im not keen on taking off the honeycomb for the GT type. And the price isnt cheap either plus labour. Its one expensive mod !
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: k4ith on 04 March 2008, 12:29
NO people the grey gti and those R32's have been massacared, they are  :sick:.
very camp styling.If anything the law should be changed to ban them as they are gross.
each to their own, but if i saw that grey gti I'd piss myself laughin.

If Phil and a few others who own a grey GTI were to see that i dont think they would be too happy....sometimes i feel some views and opinions are just best kept towards myself.

Oh and the DRL's are awesome!

I own a grey mk5 , but you miss my point that euro look mk5 was IMO horrible and as its a forum i can say that, you can all say you like them but when 1 person says no then i should keep it to myself, why? if you want to put drl's on fine, my opinion is they dont suit the mk5 golfs .I have seen them in real life and i dont like them on audi's.I see Robin's point of  the safety aspect but think they can be both better styled and presented.
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: maxamus on 04 March 2008, 12:31
FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT !!!!!!!!
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: bennyboy on 04 March 2008, 12:32
I agree with maxamus they would look better with my type of front end , just above the fog lights....

(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y238/BENNYBOY30/100_2110aa.jpg)

BUT

Why whould you want to make a VW golf look like a audi just buy a audi.  :laugh:

Even though they look good not my type of mod.
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: AlanD on 04 March 2008, 12:36
Easy now, I think there was a bit of misunderstanding there. I think manu thought you Keith was having a pop a grey GTi's in general which he wasnt. We are a happy forum here !
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: RedRobin on 04 March 2008, 13:26
I agree with maxamus they would look better with my type of front end , just above the fog lights....

BUT

Why whould you want to make a VW golf look like a audi just buy a audi.  :laugh:

....I agree that they would suit the Mk5 GT better because of the grills.

Audi don't have a monopoly - It's just that they are the first to introduce them. Just see what happens in the next few years! LED DRL's will be standard on most cars by 2011, not just Audis. :cool:
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: Horney on 04 March 2008, 13:34
Do you reckon they'd look good on my MKII?

No me neither. ha ha

Nick
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: Manu_R32 on 04 March 2008, 14:51
O.K...there has deffinatley been a misunderstanding here and i cant be arsed to type as i had to wake up early this morning...will sort it out later...didnt mean to offend u k4ith but just imagine people on the forum were like saying bla bla bla grey and u didnt like what they were saying, it can be abit disturbing....
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: RedRobin on 04 March 2008, 15:46
....Yep, I could see the misunderstanding too. The words were ambiguous.

But I couldn't be arsed to step in - I'm not a Moderator and anyway no-one got especially out of order in my opinion. :cool: :cool:
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: AlanD on 04 March 2008, 15:53
Its gunna kick off in here ! YEEEEEEI HAAAAAA !!!
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: RedRobin on 04 March 2008, 15:56
BACK ON TOPIC! :laugh: :evil:

....Hmmm....I think I might start using my fogs as Daylight Running Lights - Not constantly but in the same road circumstances that dipped heads might be appropriate.

Did you know that Hella produce a round DRL lamp that fits instead of the fogs on the Mk5 Golf but doesn't fit the GTI !!!! How stupid is that!

http://www.tagfahrlicht.de/EN/index.swf (http://www.tagfahrlicht.de/EN/index.swf)
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: joesgti on 04 March 2008, 16:03
just been outside to look at my car. the honeycomb grills would have to be chopped to the correct size to house the drl, then brackets fabricated to hold the drl in position from the back. im sure that thease grills are cheap(ish)  so if all went rong it wouldnt be such a disaster. just need correct measurments and il have a blast at it   :wink: then its next months mod :laugh:
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: RedRobin on 04 March 2008, 16:07
....Joe, are you going the Ultimate Dubs Show this Sunday? - There might be some LED stuff there.
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: joesgti on 04 March 2008, 16:09
will do......wheres it at??
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: maxamus on 04 March 2008, 16:32
Joe,

Those honeycomb fog surrounds are £20 each for stealers.
And if it did go wrong you would have to factor in the cost of buying daytime running lights which which you wouldnt require anymore. So it wouldnt be a case of just getting new foggy surrounds.
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: RedRobin on 04 March 2008, 16:44
will do......wheres it at??

....Telford, just West of Brum (sorry! Birmingham): http://www.ultimate-dubs.co.uk/ (http://www.ultimate-dubs.co.uk/)

There's a few other forum members going too: http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=73789.0 (http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=73789.0)

We can swop mobile # later in the week if you want to meet up. :smiley:
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: Hurdy on 04 March 2008, 18:03
I'll be there too :cool:
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: TeddyKGB on 04 March 2008, 21:48
However, if you've driven much on very fast unrestricted roads in Europe and experienced the very obvious safety benefits of DRL's, you might revise your opinion. The mandatory DRL law coming in 2011 is for perceived safety reasons. :smiley:

So they would be pretty useless in the UK then :rolleyes:
Title: Re: audi daylamps
Post by: RedRobin on 04 March 2008, 22:08
However, if you've driven much on very fast unrestricted roads in Europe and experienced the very obvious safety benefits of DRL's, you might revise your opinion. The mandatory DRL law coming in 2011 is for perceived safety reasons. :smiley:

So they would be pretty useless in the UK then :rolleyes:

....Of course not "useless". My point was that DRL's were first introduced in Germany and the autobahns are a good example to illustrate their benefit. It doesn't mean that they are ONLY of benefit on unrestricted high speed roads.

You have only to experience what I have described to realise their benefit. Or have you already had such experience of them and disagree?