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Model specific boards => Golf mk2 => Topic started by: gerlewis on 26 February 2008, 15:58

Title: MOT FAIL - door opening etc...
Post by: gerlewis on 26 February 2008, 15:58
Hi guys, my car failed its MOT on a list of things today! One being thay the passenger door cannot be opened from the outside.

What would be the most likely cause of this? handle, some internal linkages or the mech itself? Bearing in mind that the door can be opened fine from the inside.

(one bit of extra info, someone tried to break in around that handle before i bought it).

If it is the handle, anyone got one I can buy?!

It also failed on bulging break lines at the front any ideas if this is normal?

Another fail was stop lights not coming on, and rear indicator being wrong colour!

There are more, but I want to address these first.

Cheers

Ger


More to follow.... :S

Title: Re: MOT FAIL - door opening etc...
Post by: Horney on 26 February 2008, 16:02
Handle - Strip it off and clean it all up, may do the trick as they're not used often and can get sticky.

Break pipes - This'll be your flexi pipes to the calipers. Very common on most cars. THe rubber persihes and the pipes start to baloon under pressure. Change em (With braided ones if you can afford it) and job's a gooden.

Stop lights - Not sure but I wuld guess there's a microswitch on the peddle box for the brake lights. Check this is working. If it is just start working your way around the wiring till you find where the 12v is no longer there. Bit of a pig so hopefully the switch is the problem.

Tell tale - What lenses you got on it? Probably just needs a new bulb.

Nick
Title: Re: MOT FAIL - door opening etc...
Post by: daniel-1986 on 26 February 2008, 16:11
my MOT is not until november but i de-locked the passenger handle although it opens from the outsite but without central locking will it fail
Title: Re: MOT FAIL - door opening etc...
Post by: dabill on 26 February 2008, 16:24
change the handle on the passender side, the arm that operates the lock mech will have either snapped off completely, or cracked(usually a commo prob with ECP and GSF handles) easy fix tbh,

as horney said with the brake lines and brake lights.

orange bulb for the indicators.

easy peasy.

and daniel, no that shouldnt fail i dont think, mine was fully de-locked at one point had its mot and it passed, so both passenger door and drivers door were de-locked. admittedly it had central locking and remote locking, but im sure the passenger side doesnt need to have a lock.
Title: Re: MOT FAIL - door opening etc...
Post by: Horney on 26 February 2008, 16:28
It should fail for the door handle. As a rule of thumb MOT wise, if it's fitted it has to work. If you have no door handles they can't test them. If you do have them, they have to work.

Nick
Title: Re: MOT FAIL - door opening etc...
Post by: gerlewis on 26 February 2008, 16:37
Theres more, headlights aiming too low....

Title: Re: MOT FAIL - door opening etc...
Post by: Horney on 26 February 2008, 16:38
All you need is a screw driver, some chalk, a brick wall and a mates car for that one.

Nick
Title: Re: MOT FAIL - door opening etc...
Post by: gerlewis on 26 February 2008, 19:06
cheers for the replies, I will try the chalk idea tomorrow!

I have bought some orange nail varnish and colourd my faded bulb back in (I went to buy bulbs from halfords but the didnt have orange ones with non offset bayonet)

I also need welding around the floor plan where it joins the seat belt (passenger side).

As for the door handle, can anyone tell me how you remove them? i did a search but couldnt find a how-to.

Thanks for the tips

Ger

Title: Re: MOT FAIL - door opening etc...
Post by: Alpinehead on 26 February 2008, 19:16
if its any concilation m8, mine failed 2night too!!!  i have air con i didnt know i had!!!




in the shape of f*ck off holes in me floor!!!

Title: Re: MOT FAIL - door opening etc...
Post by: Village Idiots on 27 February 2008, 09:13
There are 2 screws to remove the door handle: one is in the door shut area, hidden behind the rubber rain seal; the other is under the trim on the outside of the handle. Unscrew these and slide the handle forward slightly and pull off.
Title: Re: MOT FAIL - door opening etc...
Post by: Village Idiots on 27 February 2008, 09:46
Sorry, screw not hidden behind rubber on Mk2s, that's Mk1!
Title: Re: MOT FAIL - door opening etc...
Post by: gerlewis on 27 February 2008, 12:08
How do I remove the trim on the outside of the handle?

Also where by on the door edge is the correct screw? Cheers for the replies guys.

I have painted my indicator bulb, and think have fixed my stoplights, a combination of no fuse! and dead bulbs.

Another problem ive yet to divulge is the lock ring being loose on my passenger side front suspension, Im hoping thats just the C-spanner spring bit, if so I can tighten that myself,


Im going to attempt to sort the headlight levels out this afternoon using a colleagues car.

Ger

Title: Re: MOT FAIL - door opening etc...
Post by: gerlewis on 27 February 2008, 14:09
Ok, ive fixed the indicator colour with nail varnish, got new bulbs and a fuse for my stop lights, re-aligned my headlights, ordered  door handle from ebay, fitted a locking fuel cap.

Ive book it in for welding and brake lines (circa £85)

I need to sort my suspension out (some lockin issue) gonnna take a gander after work, and need to fit that door handle, which is a little daunting.
Title: Re: MOT FAIL - door opening etc...
Post by: dabill on 27 February 2008, 16:03
honestly mate, the door handle is p*ss easy.

get a medium sized flat head screwdriver, push it into the gap between the trim and the side of the door handle nearest the lock barrel. lever out the trim, and that will reviel the screw on the outside of the car.

the inside screw is located just above the door catch mechanism, and its usually a big old crosshead screw thats aligned with the door handle, cant go wrong here mate.

un-do both screws, the door handle towards the front of the car slightly, and then pull outwards and there you go.

fitting is the reversal of removal. its not at all daunting in any respect, nothing needs aligning at all, it just fits together. really dont worry about it.

i would advise however getting some door armour plates off ebay. stops people pushing a flat head down teh top of the handle and unlocking your door... scarily easy to break into a mk2.
Title: Re: MOT FAIL - door opening etc...
Post by: Khare on 27 February 2008, 17:13
ive got the same problem with rear indicator lights. They'r red instead of yellow, MOT due in afew months. Any quick fix for this??
Title: Re: MOT FAIL - door opening etc...
Post by: gerlewis on 27 February 2008, 20:33
Thanks Dabill, I will try it this weekend if they arrive by then and let you know how I get on,

I will look into those plates, some has already tried to break in!
Title: Re: MOT FAIL - door opening etc...
Post by: gerlewis on 01 March 2008, 10:41
Fixed the door handle! fitting a new one took all of 5mins!

Sorted, cheers for the advice!

Booked in for welding & brakes on Tues.
Title: Re: MOT FAIL - door opening etc...
Post by: Jay on 01 March 2008, 14:12
ive got the same problem with rear indicator lights. They'r red instead of yellow, MOT due in afew months. Any quick fix for this??


Yea, buy the correct bulbs/rear clusters/nail varnish!







....do people not read a thread before posting...
Title: Re: MOT FAIL - door opening etc...
Post by: Khare on 01 March 2008, 16:47
i started a thread already dont worry. Solution is either green bulbs, or use acetone to untint the lights.