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Model specific boards => Golf mk5 => Topic started by: 08micsta on 26 February 2008, 10:37
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Hi Hi
I have a friend at school who is under the impression that his Opel Astra GTC will take my GTi off the road.
To my shock and horror I found out that the GTC is a bloody diesal :sick: !!!
Looked up a few things on the net and cant seem to find a comparison test.
The annoying thing about my friend is he seems to think Opels are awesome and that the GTi is slow.
So lets debate this one please. Im getting annoyed now. Constantly hearing about fast Opels etc.
When I say GTi I mean the stock GTi not the Ed30.
Opinions anyone? If Hurdy can get 5.66 seconds for his 0-60 times then a GTi could get similar. Maybe 6.5 seconds?
I have been told that the Factory quoted times are- 0-100KM in 7.6 seconds.
I heard that the GTC really battles to put its power down.
Although I must admit its a stunning car.
So which car is going to win? Astra GTC or GTi? And lets do this by the paper and not by "driver skill".
Mike
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Do you have any specs for the Astra? Fastest diesel Astra i can find specs for in the UK is 150ps and does 0-60 in 8.3.
The reason you won't find a comparison test is because the GTI is LEAGUES above any crappy diesel astra. They often compare it to the Astra VXR.. but then that has 100ps more than the diesel.
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The Astra GTC Im talking about seems to be a 1.9 litre diesel.... Which technically a 2.0 litre turbocharged Golf should destroy?
Right? lol
There is also a petrol version of the GTC with a 2.0 litre engine though. Should I be worried?
Mike
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Well, Astra OPC is a real racer, for sure. It handles better than GTI (don't mind some torque steer), it looks more agressive (never mind those ST-replica rims). But inside it is only made for the driver, the center console is terrible in its gray plastic (or mirror black plastic, no difference, still crap), board comp and radio are made by Nazis to make you go nuts... It's too much of a compromise.
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found this
http://www.opelastragtc.co.za/content_data/LAAM/ZA/en/GBPZA/019/pdf/OPEL_ASTRAGTC_SPECIFICATION.pdf
the 2.0T seems the equivalent of the VXR we get in the UK, only with 50 less bhp..
as you can see from the 0-100kmh times on that specsheet, none of those astras are even close to the GTI.
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i think your astra GTC in South Africa may be the same as the 888 astra diesel here in UK which is 200bhp and tons of torque.
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I am honestly not sure. I didnt realise there was a difference.
Thanks for that link Topher. Do you have one for the MK5 GTI? (Im not allowed to download at school)
Gonna go to the school library and look up the GTC in a car magazine...
Mike
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for UK cars just use parkers guide
http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/specs/
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HA HA
I win!
Opel Astra GTC: 0.100 = 7.8
Golf GTi: 0.100 = 7.2
And even better ha ha:
Golf GTi DSG: 0.100 = 6.9 seconds :laugh:
Shame. Poor guy took the loss well. But I have to agree with what he says.
The Opel Astra GTC sound similar to a VR6 and that sound is awesome and lets face it. I think the GTC would be more fun to drive.
Golf GTi: The gentleman in the crowd.
Opel GTC: The Gentlemans son who is ADHD deficient and suggers from verbal diarea :laugh: aka. The madman in the crowd.
Mike
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4pot turbo sounds like a vr6? :huh: .. the uk vxr sounds nothing like that
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lol
Its got that prrr sound that I like from the VR6.... Its similar I guess.. :undecided:
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Just been reading this topic...did u slap his willy when u proved him wrong? :grin: Hows he gonna compare a diesel to a 2.oT GTI....end of the day its a GTI and thats where my money would have gone... :smiley:
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Yeah!! HA HA
He was raving about the car and then I went on the net and looked it up and to my absolute horror it was a diesel!!!
Tons of torque but nothing vompared to a GTi
Mike
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I think this thread should be closed for the following reasons:-
1. An astra should be compared against nothing but a wheelybin
2. The fact that your friend has an astra
3. The idea that it sounds like a VR6???
4. Its a bloody diesel!!!
Enough said i think! :angry:
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The official figures for the Standard GTI will never be the same as a road test result. The VW Driver mag road test managed to squeeze a 0-60mph of 6 seconds dead for the manual, but only managed 6.3 for the DSG version, albeit one was in the dry and the other in the damp.
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I wouldn't exactly say you would blow him away in the 888 , If thats what he has if you watch this video in the link below the 888 is tested against a petrol xvr astra. They are pretty quick !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zo987X-Au48
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lol!
Thanks guys. I just needed some bias advice so I could prove the silly boy wrong.
:smiley:
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I wouldn't exactly say you would blow him away in the 888 , If thats what he has if you watch this video in the link below the 888 is tested against a petrol xvr astra. They are pretty quick !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zo987X-Au48
Somehow calling a 888 a stock diesel is a tad unfair (not that you did), the 888 has been highly tuned and as such still was slightly beaten by the stock vxr, now to make it fair put a oettinger or apr race tuned GTI against a 888 and I think you'll find the reuslt would be way in favour of the GTI,
Bottom line is, need to compare apples with apples as it were? :grin:
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I hear you mate! :cool: i wasnt sure if he was referring to the 888 astra or not !
It is pretty quick for a diesel astra tho hehe :laugh: